About Coffers For AF and Such

[WishMaster3K]

Situation:
Someone has one job already, let's say it's a 75 RDM. They are raising another job, let's say it's PLD.

Question:
When that person is going to go coffer hunting, what instances will they need to have PLD on as a main, if any?

[Mhurron]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

When you need to open the coffer to get that item you need to be that job. When the quest requires it, usually starting the quest, you have to be that job.

Since you've been through the RDM AF lets use that as an example:
AF1 (weapon - Quest) Must be RDM to start the quest, can kill the Quadav and get the key item as any job
AF2 (boots - Quest) Must be RDM to start, can be any job to bury the boots and collect them
AF Hands (Quest) - Must be RDM to start, can kill Dark Spark as any job
AF Legs (Coffer) - Must be RDM when opening the Coffer
AF Body (Coffer) - Must be RDM when opening the Coffer
AF3 (Hat - Quest) Must be RDM to start, can kill both NM's as any job.

There are other times that you must be the main job to do that quest. BLM for instance requires you to use Manafont during AF3 so obviously up to that point you have to be BLM main. I believe the DRG ones require you to call your wyvern so again you would have to be DRG for them.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

Ah ok then so:

AF Weapon -
AF Head - Garlaige Coffer
AF Body - PLD to start, but I'm sure I can duo the NMs with a NIN friend
AF Hands - PLD to Start, can kill DS as RDM
AF Legs - Beadaeux Coffer
AF Feet - Can start as PLD, and kill all the NMs as RDM

I hate coffer hunting. It looks like 3 of my AFs are in coffers.... *sigh* It's been so long since I had to go through this process, lol... Thank you for the input.

[Jei]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

Unfortunately, you'll have to open 4 coffers. Paladin AF body requires you open Castle Zvahl's coffer as part of your quest.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

One more thing about doing AF for multiple jobs. I've heard (I haven't personally tried it) that you need to complete any active AF quests before you can start one for a different job. If you've completed your RDM AF already, then it won't be an issue.

[Kitalrez]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

A good rule of thumb for AF is:

1. If it's a quest, you only have to be the job you want AF for at the START of the quest, you can kill and finish as any job.
2. If it's in a coffer, you must open that coffer as the job you want AF for or you just get normal coffer loot.

I have some very funny stories of going through SMN AF cutscenes in my WHM AF. I also have some very not-funny stories of me opening SMN coffers in my WHM AF and having to go farm another key.

[Loial]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

One thing to note...

AF Hands (Quest) - Must be RDM to start, can kill Dark Spark as any job

Half-true. You would need to be on RDM to start, but can open the coffer on any job to get Bolghertz's Hands and can be on any job to kill Dark Spark.

In regards to PLD, I'm not certain if you need to be on PLD to get the paintbrush(?). I'd make the assumption that you do, since it would be painful to waste a coffer key in Zvahl just to find out.

[Ziero]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

One more thing about doing AF for multiple jobs. I've heard (I haven't personally tried it) that you need to complete any active AF quests before you can start one for a different job. If you've completed your RDM AF already, then it won't be an issue.

This is untrue. I am lvling both Thf and War and they are 53 and 56 respectively. I have my War AF Hands, Feet(which are quested) and Head(coffer), leaving my pants(coffer) and Body(quest) still unfinished. The other day I *started* my thf af quest for the hat and got the Old gauntlets for the hands quest. So you can have two af quests for different jobs active.

What you CAN NOT have active for two different jobs is the Bolghertz's Hands quests. If you start one, you have to finish it before being able to start another. You can also be any job while opening the coffer for the Bolghertz's Hands quest. I actually picked my War AF hand coffer in Eldieme with my lvl 50 Thf. I would have done the same for my Thf af hands in Mon cavern but I came upon a coffer key without effort.

What's gonna be a pain is vahzl, as I need two different coffers from there, one for War legs and the other for Thf body. =/

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

Thanks for the clarification, Ziero. I stand corrected.

[bside]

Re: About Coffers For AF and Such

In regards to PLD, I'm not certain if you need to be on PLD to get the paintbrush(?). I'd make the assumption that you do, since it would be painful to waste a coffer key in Zvahl just to find out.

Just to comfirm, yes, you can open the coffer in Zvahl as any job for the paintbrush, as part of the AF3 for body piece.

One thing I cannot confirm is, though, that whether this one has priority over Bolghertz's Hands for BRD, which also is obtained through the coffer of the same area. Order of priority normally is;

Quest-related key items > AF pieces directly obtained > Normal items

but they are both in the general category of "quest-related key items," so opening it as neither job will follow the more specific priority order that I don't know of.