PL's ruin the game?

[Chaster]

IMHO, PL's ruin the game, especially places like Valkurm Dunes, where most of the learning takes place. With a PL, WHM doesn't have to worry about curing the party, and the WAR doesn't really have to learn how to voke (Most parties, WHM takes all the hate). Am I the only one that thinks this way?

When I level my WHM for BST sub, I wouldn't party if they had a PL. I would just say "I'm sorry, White Magic Main Healing Magic" and that would be all. Yes I made a couple people mad like that.

Although, Most people just see it as "Helping us get by faster, so we don't have to stay so long in the dunes" I see it as really hurting the newer players that are in the party. for instance: I was in a party today, in qufim, and I had to teach the WAR how to do a Provoke macro.

Is it me, or does anyone else think like this?
All feedback is appreciated -

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

I hate PLs. Some of the worst party experiences I've had were in PL parties. Oh, the rate of exp was fine. But it was a terrible gaming experience.

My personal choice is not to be a part of a PL'ed party. If someone wants to be PL'ed, I won't try to talk them out of it. They don't have to play this game the same way I do. It's their call.

But I won't be impressed by anyone bragging about how well their PL party went. It really bugs me when I hear someone talking about how great their party is doing... now that they have a PL.

[Chaster]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

I remember back in the day(before I quit the first time) when like all my parties, none of them had PL's..actually, I didn't know what a PL was, until I came back the second time

[Mog]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

No need to make a new thread. Everything you're talking about is summed up here:

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/whi...ht=power+level

[Centurion]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

i was in a party in the garliage citadel basement, we were a low 50s party.
i cant remember the exact setup , but things were going well, downtime was minimal and the exp was coming at a good clip.
this is when the palading says 'PL is on the way' i said, um... PL No, thanks.
the party asked me why?, and i said because in the end it doesnt benefit anyone.
i then went onto say if a PL was indeed coming that they should find me a replacement. 10 minutes later PL was there, and i dropped from the party.
i then got a tell from the white mage in the party along the lines 'i just checked with my LS about having a PL and they said you are dumb for leaving'
i said 'thanks for your opinion' and put up my seek flag.

[forster]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

I think the horse was already dead on this subject, Chaster.

[Legal Fish]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

I do believe that PLs shouldn't be possible, but it doesn't help how isanely boring fighting is in the game, or at least in exp situations.

[Rostum]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

I don't really know why anyone would PL a party. It's SO damn boring! Such a waste of time. I tried helping a friend once, to solo 1k exp so he could level (around level 17), and I got so bored just from that. -_-;

[Centurion]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

one thing you could do to stop people from PLing you is use the blockaid function.

i believe you type in /blockaid on (correct me if i am wrong) and this will prevent anyone not in your party from casting on you, until you die or zone.

[Siber]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

I think the horse was already dead on this subject, Chaster.

The corpse is rotting at this point =/

But just for the sake of it, PLs don't ruin parties; it's other reasons, including plain ignorance. I didn't know about macros until I was level 20-something, and this was back in January '04 when there were no PLs. It just doesn't always come up, and not everyone has someone there to teach them.

You hurt new players just as much as any PL "hurts" them. You deny parties w/ PLs, thus you're not in those parties to help teach the new players how the game is actually played. You're supposedly willing to help new players, but for some reason you go out of your way not to just because of an imagined problem with the game. PLs don't hurt new players; it is the old player's indifference towards teaching new players how to play, PL or no PL.

Also, I have yet to realize how having a PL means a WHM still can't heal the tank. All it means is when the WHM is out of MP, the party can keep going instead of standing still. WHM gets the same skillups, but more EXP... where's the problem? Just explain to the PL that the tank is to actually tank, and then it's all good.

[neighbortaru]

Re: PL's ruin the game?

No need to make a new thread. Everything you're talking about is summed up here:
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/whi...ht=power+level

thanks Mog. please use that thread if you wish to discuss this further. thread closed