"Training" weapons.

[Neomage]

Just throwing an idea out. Recently I have been fed up with how it becomes nearly impossible to skill up a weapon of such low levels that you can't decently skill them up in skillup parties, let alone ven join them. Say a Warrior leveled up to 30 using a one-handed axe, then realized how useful SA + Strumwind is. Or a BLM, who dosn't get a scythe untill 49(I think it was). I propose that SE added "training" weapons to allow jobs to skillup forgotton traits easier, for example:

Practice Degen
(Sword) All Races
Level 25 All Jobs
Damage: 7
Delay:113
Increases rate of Sword
Skill improvements.

Wooden Axe
(Greataxe) All Races
Level 25 All Jobs
Damage: 21
Delay: 203
Increaces rate of Great
Axe Skill improvements.

What do you think?

[Akai]

Re: "Training" weapons.

sounds like an excellent idea to me, but it should be very low dmg and higher delay if it has enhance skill learning :x

[Neomage]

Re: "Training" weapons.

Mabye. What I did is took examples from regular lv 20 weapons, 5 levels below, and cut the damage/delay in half. It really depends on how much potency the increase skill rates is, but I figured a wooden sword would deal less damage but swing faster than an iron one.

[Akai]

Re: "Training" weapons.

lol, true O.o maybe these weapons could 'break' due to being made from wood :x
ehhe your avatar is funny btw :D

[Icemage]

Re: "Training" weapons.

If your skill level is so abominably low that you can't hit stuff in normal skillup parties, go solo Too Weak enemies for skillups until your skills are within shouting distance.


Icemage

[Neomage]

Re: "Training" weapons.

That still leaves the problem of people in the experience level of pre-skillup parties, let alone underskilled.

[Myaku]

Re: "Training" weapons.

Sounds like a good idea to me, skilling up Marksman is a pain outside of an XP party.

[Irisjir Callard]

Re: "Training" weapons.

Sounds like a good idea to me, skilling up Marksman is a pain outside of an XP party.

Yeah, ranged weapons are probably harder to skill since they depend on distance.

This idea reminds me of the training dummy idea I had, a second room of your MH where you had a 'training dummy' that had no attacks, but near-infinite HP and auto-regen, that you could just whamp on.

Downside is that people would just leave their characters whacking away for hours, days, etc and skill up from 0-100 or higher without any effort whatsoever. I never did come up with a way around that.

[Esoa]

Re: "Training" weapons.

Um...this is FFXI. Nothing is supposed to be easy. Skilling up is just like every other activity: tedious and a pain in the butt. I think SE will introduce "training weapons" about the same time they give detailed instructions for quests, or allow us to alt-tab. In other words, never.

[Ziero]

Re: "Training" weapons.

Actually if they had a chance to break it could bring a new dimension into the item. If you needed to carry 2-3 with you while skilling up it would be a nice new money sink and a new addition to woodworking. And SE does like adding wierd and whacky new items just for the hell of it. Though they should probably have similar delay to the real weapons, their dmg should definately be lowered.

[Akai]

Re: "Training" weapons.

yay for wwers! id make lots, and make lots of gil! ahahahaa lol >_>
but what would be the point of a wooden wand, pole, bow, xbow, and h2h? XD kinda silly lol

[Ziero]

Re: "Training" weapons.

Make em plastic and have them be alchemy!

Actually, I just got hit with a bit of inspiration. Make them enchanted items that give skill up+. With limited enchantments they'll end up with the same result as the breaking idea, but will allow the player more control as to how long they last. If they just randomly broke it'd be possible to have someone lose them after 1-2 swings. If that happens repeatedly in the same night it'd be kinda annoying. But if they were enchantments you would know how long and how many more uses the items were good for.

[Kholdstare]

Re: "Training" weapons.

I like the idea of "increases rate of skillups" as an enchantment, honestly. However, I think this enchantment should go away if you remove the weapon.

Also, variable (i.e. 7~) damage would probably help, because if they're always at such a low damage rating, you'll constantly hit for 0 and never get skillups. It doesn't have to be comparable to other weapons, but enough that you can hit mobs and actually damage them.

That, or just multiple types of these kinds of weapons (e.g. Practice Greataxe, Practice Bhuj, etc.)

[Visper]

Re: "Training" weapons.

Make em plastic and have them be alchemy!

Actually, I just got hit with a bit of inspiration. Make them enchanted items that give skill up+. With limited enchantments they'll end up with the same result as the breaking idea, but will allow the player more control as to how long they last. If they just randomly broke it'd be possible to have someone lose them after 1-2 swings. If that happens repeatedly in the same night it'd be kinda annoying. But if they were enchantments you would know how long and how many more uses the items were good for.

Yup, I actually really like that idea it would help out alot.

[Taskmage]

Re: "Training" weapons.

Just because it'd never happen doesn't mean it's not a good idea.