Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

[Nimrod4154]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

that's a stupid reason

It's easier to kill someone using a gun, but people were killing other people long before guns were invented

It helps remove cheaters, whether you like it or not.

[Kailea]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

It helps remove cheaters, whether you like it or not.

heheh wrong, it is just as easy to cheat without windower, if you know how, not allowing a windowed mode on a PC that is running an OS designed with the window concept is kind of silly. I understand they where going for the "same experiance" thing, but that was going a bit to far -.-

[soonk]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

all it helps is make cheaters find more ways to cheat. they can and will find a way around it. if you dont believe that then SE must have programmed all the current cheats for them, because any normal game doesnt come out w/ the intention of having cheats

[Hamlet]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

I don't get when people say that it's just as easy to cheat without windower/other stuff as it is without. I can't think of something easier than downloading a program, some plugins, running it and pressing some buttons. Sure, it's possible to hack without windower, but it requires alot more than that.

I think that SE should create a windowing capability that would hopefully allow them to have better control over what it can do.

[soonk]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

um im pretty sure you dont have to dl cheats right before you use them, and most cheats run either as the game loads or before it

[Kutch]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

The whole concept of NOT allowing ALT-TAB is plain stupid. There is no higher amount of cheaters on other MMO's that can task switch.

Cheaters will cheat, whether windowed or not. Everyone is not a cheat, just because they're task switching.

[Feba]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

Really, I bet if SE did release an official windower, Archbell would shutdown entirely, or at least the Archbell Windower would.


It's pretty common knowledge that the folks that make the windower actually hate FFXI and have hardly any time to work on it, so if SE provides an official alternative, I doubt they'll put any effort into making theirs work.

[Asir]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

I play on a PS2 and I voted 1. If I need to check a recipe for crafting or look up some stuff to help a friend through a quest, I just set myself down in a safe area and head to my computer. I don't care about the windower, use it all you want as long as it doesn't have the cheats available. The windowers that do come with the soft cheats just make it more tempting for those wanting an easier ride to use the more heavier cheats in my opinion. I know not everyone that uses the TP thing will use the speedhacks or instawarps but the few that do are the ones that have made Windower such a big issue.

Being able to look up the same things I can while playing should not be against the terms of service just because we play on different machines. If they were to add the soft cheats to an SE made Windower, I would expect them to add the soft cheats only to the console versions since we don't really have a need to window our games... Unless you feel the need to play two games on the same console at once.

[Nimrod4154]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

heheh wrong, it is just as easy to cheat without windower, if you know how, not allowing a windowed mode on a PC that is running an OS designed with the window concept is kind of silly. I understand they where going for the "same experiance" thing, but that was going a bit to far -.-

I bet the majority of the people who used cheats had used Windower to help them.

[Feba]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

I bet the majority of the people who used cheats had used Windower to help them.

The majority of people use windower anyway. That's like saying a lot of people used cars to rob a bank, of course they did it's the fastest way most people have to get around, doesn't mean the government bans cars.

Anyway, Windower really doesn't help run any of the old hacks. which ran through keyboard commands, and the new ones I beleive come with their own windower anyway. It's not impossible to get windows above FFXI even in fullscreen mode, FFAssist was a demonstration of this initially, when it actually wouldn't work properly with windower.

[Nimrod4154]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

The majority of people use windower anyway. That's like saying a lot of people used cars to rob a bank, of course they did it's the fastest way most people have to get around, doesn't mean the government bans cars.

Anyway, Windower really doesn't help run any of the old hacks. which ran through keyboard commands, and the new ones I beleive come with their own windower anyway. It's not impossible to get windows above FFXI even in fullscreen mode, FFAssist was a demonstration of this initially, when it actually wouldn't work properly with windower.

The majority? I wouldn't say that the majority of the people use any 3rd party programs. I'd say most people just play the game without alt+tabbing. Just my opinion.

[Feba]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

The majority of PC users, yes.


I hate to break it to you, but the majority of PC users do you use windower. Most of the rest don't know about it. The ones that do, and yet don't, mostly still find that SE should add a windowing function to FFXI.

[Shendokai]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

i almost crapped my pants laughing when i saw your sig...
i always love seeing tarus sexually abusing people.

[Kailea]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

The majority? I wouldn't say that the majority of the people use any 3rd party programs. I'd say most people just play the game without alt+tabbing. Just my opinion.

yeah roughly 50% of PC users use windower to play FFXI...... trying to remember where I got that info from... -.-

[Murphie]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

yeah roughly 50% of PC users use windower to play FFXI...... trying to remember where I got that info from... -.-

From merespeculation.com, I'd figure, since there couldn't possibly be any official numbers on that.