Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

[Medalink]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

The wondower aspect is not the problem, its the other "uses" it has.

I personally dont care, but it is even so slitley an "unfair advantage" over ps2, and x360.

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[Rodin]

Re: Because We Never Have Enough Windower Threads

The wondower aspect is not the problem, its the other "uses" it has.

I personally dont care, but it is even so slitley an "unfair advantage" over ps2, and x360.

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Add TParty, Distance Mod, and IME options to PS2 and 360, and there's no unfair advantage. (Which SE could do pretty easily I'm sure).

[Aeolus]

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I have the same opinion. I don't mind if the window can be minimized, but strongly against anything that benefits one platform to the detriment of another.

Less lag on the PC damages the xbox and ps2 doesnt it? Claimwise,casting etc, in fact it effects everything pretty much lag does. I dont know, Im asking.

Neway TP soft cheat is ok I think but none of the others. Certainly shouldnt be used for speed hacking, warping etc.

[Murphie]

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I voted 1. If all three platforms don't have the same plugins available then I don't think they should be available for PC. But I definitely think the game should be alt-tabable.

[Macht]

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Will I get reported for using a Logitech G15 keyboard, which includes a 3rd party application made by Logitech to make macros on the fly with the macro button.

They did hand out these keyboards over at Fan Festival '06.

Well want a similar aspect to this. My company's gave me an all expense payed vacation once. The catch was I was not to mention that the vacation was all payed by the company to the employee's.

Similar thing there, likely the app by logitech to make the macros could be violating. As long as you don't brag about it on the game though then they basicaly just slipped you something to cheat but expect you to be quiet about it. If you arn't they are not responsible if you get in trouble for it's use.

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Add TParty, Distance Mod, and IME options to PS2 and 360, and there's no unfair advantage. (Which SE could do pretty easily I'm sure).

I know they can, but like a MUD I built stuff on. We came to find that giving to much data to easily for the players to obtain was also taking away a challenge aspect. It was in this that we took away the players ability to see mob HP, and for the spirit elements and bodysnatchers we made the true numbers obscure to the players.

It a matter of what's to much info that makes it to easy and what's not enough that makes it impossible. In all situations having to know everyones TP is not going to always be a life or death situation, this just makes the game to easy and is removing an intentional challenge.

[Matera]

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Windowed mode would rule.

Plugins, however, I don't care for.

[Macht]

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Less lag on the PC damages the xbox and ps2 doesnt it? Claimwise,casting etc, in fact it effects everything pretty much lag does. I dont know, Im asking.

Neway TP soft cheat is ok I think but none of the others. Certainly shouldnt be used for speed hacking, warping etc.

FYI, game is hard set to a 56Kbps transfer rate. About the best that a PC can do over an xbox and ps2 is get you into the next zone 1 or 3 seconds earlier provided that all platforms have a clean 56Kbps connection or higher.

Otherwise the game pre-loads mob objects so unless there is a large number of players coming and going out none of the systems have any huge advantage over the other. Well no advantage as long as no one is hacking.

[Etra]

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If "soft cheats" means "Japanese IME," then yes please. :D

[Lilani]

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I use a windower I got from a Japanese web site, for many reasons. I used Azaril's windower at first, but when I discovered the JP one I liked it much better. As a disclaimer, the main reason I use a windower is because I get *much* less lag without it, and I can minimize it if I need to look up a map, or if my computer surprises me with an update and annoys me with popup warnings about it.

With Azaril's, you can't just get a plain old windower. You get all this crap that takes a while to figure out how to use and that just adds more things to look at. Yes, seeing your party's TP is a handy tool, but it's extremely tacky if you want to take screenshots. And in game you can sometimes hit the wrong button and mess something up. One time I accidently hit the button that changes the lighting and I honestly thought I broke the game or my screen >.<;

Also, with Azaril's, it takes a while to decide what you want. Last time I looked around to see what they had I was just like "oh come ON all I want is to minimize the freaking game, I don't care about blood pacts!"

And on top of all that, you can't use your key that makes the ~! Even if you change it, that only means you can't use another key, and you never know when you might want to use it! I like my ~ man. We don't agitate the ~. The ~ has work to do.

JP windower is just a plain minimizer, which is why I it so.

[Murphie]

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And on top of all that, you can't use your key that makes the ~! Even if you change it, that only means you can't use another key, and you never know when you might want to use it! I like my ~ man. We don't agitate the ~. The ~ has work to do.

Hee! The lack of ~ (or another key if I reassign) was one of my biggest problems with the windower.

[Linra]

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Voted 1, the "soft cheats" aren't needed, I just want to Alt-tab!!
And yeah, ~ is my favorite key, I don't know what I'd do without it ;.;

[soonk]

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seriously,, even if it wasnt windowed mode id appreciate being able to alt-tab

[Feba]

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FFXI's GUI needs to be revamped, for all versions.


Although 1 is the only good choice, SE won't listen to PC users if they expect to be treated above PS2 users

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and you can change the console key in windower, I use "numpad." since there's really no other time you'd ever use that key for typing.


or you can just not set one, and control windower through /console.

[ifandbut]

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I voted for 1 because I think it is the only way SE would even consider adding a windower.

Yes, seeing your party's TP is a handy tool, but it's extremely tacky if you want to take screenshots.

Actualy if you do a "screenshot jpg hide" at the windower concle then it will hide all windower added features and just make it look as if you took the screenshot with fraps or something.

[Murphie]

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Which key is numpad?