Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

Yes. It just sucks.

And the resolution is crappy too.

[Davitron3000]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

Sucked didn't it? I bet if it was possible to go on websites with your PS2 you'd want to be able to veiw websites while playing the game wouldn't you?

I am no argueing at all against the use of hacks and bots, they are wrong, I know. I was banned and I deserved it, I'm argueing for the windower.

Having to walk into another room did suck, but it was what I had to do. I don't know
if I would want to be able to look at the web on my PS2 or not, if I thought it would
get me banned, no I wouldn't do it. I would do what I am doing now.

Anyways, is there any confirmed people being banned/suspended for just using Windower?

edit: added quote because I post to slow...

[Zamphire]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

What part of you agreed to that do you not understand? You agree to have FFXI run fullscreen every time you launch the game, SE neither told you you can not use your computer nor are they forcing you to play.

You have to love it when SE bans people over things like this. Cheaters come out of the woodwork to validate their actions with some sort of twisted moral argument.

I cheated, yes I did.

And they didn't ban me for using the windower thank you very much, if they did that there would be many more than just 2k bans.

I agreed to useing it, yes I did. Am I happy about it? No I'm not. Do I have a right to state my opinion on why it should be changed? Yes, I do.


Edit: P.S. This argument is raising my gil really high!! Woot! Maybe soon I can go buy that bronze sword I've been wanting.

[Omniblast]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

0Wait really doesn't do anything harmful to the game, it just cuts out the wait time between looking at yor delivery box, looking at sold items on AH, and cuts down wait time between synth. But yes, technically it's banned because it's a 3rd party program, but I think it's harder to detect.
I would assume so, as this is cheating as well.

You can also use 0Wait to look at your delivery box from anywhere in town as long as your mog house or rent-a-room is in that town. @_@. Saves a trip back to the old mog house to get your gil when you can get it at the auction house.

[Zamphire]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

You can also use 0Wait to look at your delivery box from anywhere in town as long as your mog house or rent-a-room is in that town. @_@. Saves a trip back to the old mog house to get your gil when you can get it at the auction house.

Oh wow, nice, I may have to go download the new version of this. Saving that trip would be awsome.

[Omniblast]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

Oh wow, nice, I may have to go download the new version of this. Saving that trip would be awsome.

... I thought you said you would stop using hacks? or just stop using flee-tool & warp hacks?

[Zamphire]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

... I thought you said you would stop using hacks? or just stop using flee-tool & warp hacks?

I said may. But if I do get it, it'll be a LONG time down the road. I'm not going to be using anything but windower for a long time.

[Herrisa]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

Well, if people would stop using Windower to cheat, then SE might implement it.

I will also win the $500 million Powerball lottery, a rich, unknown uncle will leave me his entire Caribbean island estate, and NASA will invite me to fly to the moon the day people don't use Windower to cheat.

[Raydeus]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

The windower itself isn't such a bad thing, and I don't think SE would've given it more importance than they do to Fraps now.

But when people started saying:

"oh it would be nice being able to see the TP from other people without having to ask"
"oh it would be nice having 500 lines in a macro instead of 6"
"oh it would be nice to have <insert something that wasn't intended to be in the game>"

and started creating all those little programs that's when they sent the windower to hell.

Had people just used the windower for the sole purpose of "window"-ing SE would've never had to take measures against it.


But people always wants more, and there's your reward. Now everyone who uses a windower is considered a cheater and most of them are now anyway.




PS> Nope, there's no chance in hell I'll ever use a windower but I don't consider the windower itself a bad thing.

In fact it would've been nice being able to watch a movie or do other stuff on my computer while looking for party but with all these I think seeing an official windowed mode seems more and more unlikely.

[Etra]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

Well, if people would stop using Windower to cheat, then SE might implement it.

If SE would allow me to type in Japanese, without having to install my Japanese client, then I would stop using it.

All I use it for is being able to alt+tab out to talk on AIM and look at web pages while I wait for a party. As well as the capability to speak in Japanese, as I just don't like playing on the Japanese client.

[Omniblast]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

Well, if people would stop using Windower to cheat, then SE might implement it.

I will also win the $500 million Powerball lottery, a rich, unknown uncle will leave me his entire Caribbean island estate, and NASA will invite me to fly to the moon the day people don't use Windower to cheat.

Magic 8 ball says, "Yes!"

[DakAttack]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

I didn't think Fleetool or POS was so widely used.

/shocked

[Zamphire]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

Well, if people would stop using Windower to cheat, then SE might implement it.

I will also win the $500 million Powerball lottery, a rich, unknown uncle will leave me his entire Caribbean island estate, and NASA will invite me to fly to the moon the day people don't use Windower to cheat.

The day SE gives me an officle supported windowed version of FF is the day I stop using the windower.

[ReNo1/2]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

Alright, all i've been using is windowers, that's it. Do they really have a way of finding out if you have it or not? Also have there actually been people being banned for only using just that?

[Zamphire]

Re: Sooooo 2k accounts suspended....

I didn't think Fleetool or POS was so widely used.

/shocked

I'm not going to give links because I don't want to get in trouble, but you'd be surprised how many people use these tools. They are VERY easy to use and easily obtainable for free. I know of off the top of my head at least 5 websites with 500 or more people registered at them. All with easy access to both those tools and many many more.