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    Hi all, I don’t like to post a rant, and this really isn’t, it’s more of a “Please…come on, will ya, heh?!” type of post.



    Ever since the new areas opened up to us all, life has been fun in FFXI land. I’ve enjoyed leveling there with a just a few people in my LS, we are 70+. The experience is fast, the mobs are plenty and above all, I’m with my mates.



    Well, a week ago, a few people in my LS who are between 60-65 complained about being 2k away TNL, or they can’t get an invite, etc…The usual complaints of seeking and being in pick up parties. So, as my 70+ mates and I were heading onto the new area to exp, we said to our friends, “Hey, why don’t you join us?!” So, they did. We’ve had them join us each time we've gone since because it was a blast, except for one problem, which I will explain soon….



    See, we didn’t care about the huge level differences, or that the experience points would be low, or that it wasn’t an “ideal” set up. All we cared about was helping out our LS friends, making them happy, gaining mild exp fast and above all having a great time together. However, it was treated as a crime against FFXI nature.



    Whenever we find a camp, we make sure we’re not planted near anyone else’s domain. If we notice there is a lot of pulling competition out there from too many parties, we wait patiently for pops by us, and there are plenty of pops everywhere to go around for all those camps. We never ever would steal a mob someone was obviously engaged in pulling, we never have. We really try to treat everyone with respect.

    The problem is, our people between 60-65 are getting tells from miscellaneous pullers and passer bys to “GTFO. You don’t belong here.” And the like. Also, we ALL will be heavily examined by other players and given those emotes of /sighs dejectedly /stares blankly and on and on. Our WHM in the LS that we convinced to join us is level 60 only. This seems to throw a lot of people checking us out into a froth! If they only knew this level 60 WHM is so talented in his skill that we trust him to take care of all of us and he never let us down. But when they see him there, we get /points and laughs.



    Come on….If we stay in a corner, if we respect fellow players, if we don’t steal mobs in different spawning areas where other camps are, why should we—our little group—bother you? When is partying with your LS mates and helping them out and showing them a good time in a new area a crime? I’m sure we’re not the only LS that does this on any server.



    All I can say is, if it does offend you to see this set up, if they’re not treading on your camp or your mobs, if they leave you alone, please just leave them alone as well.
    SAM 75/ MNK 67/ RNG 66 / DRK 50/ WAR 43/ THF 37 / NIN 37
    Cooking 100 + 2 Fishing 95

  • #2
    Re: Just trying to Have Fun

    Where respect isn't willingly given, it must be commanded!

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    • #3
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      Ah, just sounds like elititst punks who think they own an area because of their level. No one has to fight IT+++++ all the time for friggin' xp. I've had people come in and skill up on mobs we were using for xp. They can if they want, but if they're taking from our direct camp area... I'd consider it a tad rude, but its still within their right to do so. So we simply changed camps.

      You and your group are fine. The others who sigh and whine and stare can sit and spin.

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      • #4
        Re: Just trying to Have Fun

        Well.... sometimes well intention alone isn't enough.



        Try to see it from the other groups point of view... While they are probabbly being a bit of a dick for sending "gtfo" tells, I can understand where they are coming from.

        You were exping in an area usually for people 5-10 levels below, which means easy kills and crap exp for you, and probably a solid claim on the pops close to you due to the fast kills.


        Now this other party across the field, basically exping on the same group, or an over-lapping group of pops (yes, it takes a full field in the new area to feed a good party), might have been doing chain 4's and 5's before. Now they are stopping at 3's, and when their puller ran over to check why, he found they are now competing against (from his point of view, not yours) a group 10 levels higher than the normal xp parties for the area. People can get pretty frustrated.


        They will not see someone trying to help LS mates. They probably will not see you trying to avoid other groups. They will not see your attempt to not disrupt other parties in the area. They will just see, a party 10 levels too high, competing in the area, on the mobs they want, and lowering their chain #.


        IMO, there are certainly better ways of handle situations like this than sending "gtfo" tells or slapping in emotes, but few can take the time for a civilized, polite negociation when they are just pissed off that their exp chains suffered.


        BTW, exp parties also don't usually get along with BST's, people leveling NPC's, farmers, skillup parties, and other exp parties. It doesn't even matter if you are campped way over on the other side, as long as your pulling range overlap, there will be some friction, and possibly resentment.
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        • #5
          Re: Just trying to Have Fun

          I think you just felt what bsts have felt for a long time. Do you guys remember people throwing fits when npcs first came out? People in this game think that they have the right to do what they want when they want. It is nice to see that some people will still go out of their way to make sure that they do not impose on others. OP you did everything right, just remember people in this game are asses.
          Thanks Kazuki.
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          • #6
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            Try to see it from the other groups point of view... While they are probabbly being a bit of a dick for sending "gtfo" tells, I can understand where they are coming from.
            Absolutely, that's why we kept hidden and to ourselves. Really, we were killing Imps, and if you've been there, you know how competitive it can be. We like IMPS because they are good enough for my 70+ group of 3 of us for fast kills, also, it's doable enough for our 60-65 people to be effective.

            We like the area, we never steal pops from other groups, in fact, we give many away because we know how difficult it can be. But if one pops in our face and we're about to engage it, it gets stolen from some other group, and then we get slapped!

            We really try to be considerate. I'm just hoping other parties, whether they are in my shoes or the other people's shoes can think a little bit before being disrepctful on either sides behalf.
            SAM 75/ MNK 67/ RNG 66 / DRK 50/ WAR 43/ THF 37 / NIN 37
            Cooking 100 + 2 Fishing 95

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            • #7
              Re: Just trying to Have Fun

              Originally posted by Amiraphe
              We really try to be considerate. I'm just hoping other parties, whether they are in my shoes or the other people's shoes can think a little bit before being disrepctful on either sides behalf.


              Try as you may, they will not see it. They will not see your attempt to stay out of their way, not unless they calm down and actually talk to you. Good luck getting that to happen in FFXI, or any MMO thesedays, in fact.

              All they see you as is competition, even if you go tthere first.

              There really isn't much more you can do besides blist or just get out of their, since they are probably crapping your exp too, and you actually have a bit more options then they do, being higher lv and not caring about the 'uber exp'.



              What I usually do when I need a lil quick solo exp from EP~DC mobs though, is that I pick stuff that people don't even normally think about exping on. Things like tonberries, malboros, monkies, pots, elementals (sky), and so on... It gets some used to, but atleast I don't get bothered by little kids (or adults with limited mental growth) with serious anger management issues.
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              • #8
                Re: Just trying to Have Fun

                You just had to make the text black huh?

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                • #9
                  Re: Just trying to Have Fun

                  Originally posted by Shykin
                  You just had to make the text black huh?
                  Not everyone uses the dark theme here. I prefer the default white/blue scheme myself, but the colorized text should probably have been left default.

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                  Back on topic, the XP gap between level 61+ and 75 isn't really that huge. Maybe 15-20%, unlike the extreme differences you see at lower levels, where even a handful of levels will drastically reduce XP.

                  Have your lower level members go /anon and ignore the clowns telling you to leave. If your group is functioning well enough for your satisfaction, then so be it. It's not like anyone has a right to all the mobs, though there are some unwritten rules (which are not, admittedly, followed by all players), about not XPing in zones where it's already at capacity, but that doesn't sound like what's happening here.


                  Icemage

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                  • #10
                    Re: Just trying to Have Fun

                    blist every single person who disrespect you
                    blist them all!
                    blist mobb deep!
                    blist Biggie!
                    blist East coast!
                    ok im done.

                    p.s. was listening to hit em up while writin this =/ my bad

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                    • #11
                      Re: Just trying to Have Fun


                      Have your lower level members go /anon and ignore the clowns telling you to leave.
                      OMG, it is so simple but so true. I swear, I feel like an arse not even thinking of this! I was so completely worked up over the ethics of my issue that I never even stopped to consider a simple solution! It is a shame we need to do this, but you know, it's preferrable to splitting hairs in /tells with jerks. Thanks!
                      SAM 75/ MNK 67/ RNG 66 / DRK 50/ WAR 43/ THF 37 / NIN 37
                      Cooking 100 + 2 Fishing 95

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                      • #12
                        Re: Just trying to Have Fun

                        Glad I could help, and good luck to you.


                        Icemage

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                        • #13
                          Re: Just trying to Have Fun

                          the bright version hurts my eyes X.X, like a giant flash light on my monitor.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Just trying to Have Fun

                            Originally posted by Shykin
                            the bright version hurts my eyes X.X, like a giant flash light on my monitor.

                            Turn your monitor's brightness down a notch? >.>

                            It will last longer too.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Just trying to Have Fun

                              Meh when i go to cadevra mire there is just 75 merit pts claiming as many imps as possible at once kinda annaoying when youir just trying to get a new mob for your chain and they claim it when they already have 3 claimed >.>.

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