FFXI Mercing

[Balfree]

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Well, you know.. i work as a webdesigner, i know of the problems one finds when trying to make a website stand out, 99% of the times its a gruelling challenge

With time and dedication (lots of both, in large bulk) you can make it happen

[Murphie]

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Agreed! However, no amount of time or dedication is going to make people who don't use online resources like forums and sites like the one you're planning suddenly see the light.

[Balfree]

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Yea im aware, i'm hoping the ones that do will be sufficient...

[Murphie]

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Yea im aware, i'm hoping the ones that do will be sufficient...

Well, I certainly hope so too. I think it's a great idea, I just hope you don't end up doing a lot of work with no payout.

[Balfree]

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Been there done that...

Nowadays i get much just from knowing my babies are alive and well, that is to say, im glad enough to know that a program works as intended, to be honest i've made a blog script, a forum script, a news-article script, a picture gallery amongst so many other web applications, and they never left my localhost, i take pleasure in programming ;D

But yea, youre right..

[Centurion]

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Provided you can actually get people to use it, yes. There is more to gain in that case. The problem, again, is getting enough of the FFXI population to use it to make it worthewhile. And if you figure out how to do that, more power to you.

i couldnt agree more-
while this tool,FFXI-Party ,doesnt have the robust features as is being suggested here, i always thought it a good idea.
however, as has been suggested, this site does not seem to get a lot of traffic despite the potential utility it provides the community.

[Balfree]

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Indeed... perfect example.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I think its an intriguing idea in some respects, but saying "making gil" by "helping others" in the same sentence is somewhat absurd. Helping isn't helping when there's a profit for the helper, that's contract work. Mercing just has a negative connotation that can stick to you as a player and never rub off. I find it sad someone even suggested they could merc and assault because its already mercenary work and there is something in it for you - EXP, Imperial Standing and Assault points.

I do, however, like the crafting side of this site concept. Some people have time farm to things others without that time need and sometimes selling them through bazaars or the AH isn't the best way to make a profit. A resourse that would help crafters find clients and vice versa could be a very useful tool.

[DakAttack]

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I think somebody just likes the idea of being a mercenary too much.

I'm guessing it's not going to go very far. There aren't enough people that check the web for help in the first place, I doubt they'd look at some website for 'mercing'. It's just going to amount to a lot of greedy players and stupid players hassling each other and risking more than necessary.

[Neomage]

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I think its an intriguing idea in some respects, but saying "making gil" by "helping others" in the same sentence is somewhat absurd. Helping isn't helping when there's a profit for the helper, that's contract work. Mercing just has a negative connotation that can stick to you as a player and never rub off. I find it sad someone even suggested they could merc and assault because its already mercenary work and there is something in it for you - EXP, Imperial Standing and Assault points.

I do, however, like the crafting side of this site concept. Some people have time farm to things others without that time need and sometimes selling them through bazaars or the AH isn't the best way to make a profit. A resourse that would help crafters find clients and vice versa could be a very useful tool.

If you are reffering to my post about soloing the two assaults, I think you misunderstood me. I wouldn't be charging to do these(unless the player was absurdly stupid and messed the thing up my say, attacking a mimic chest or 8) because it would be a fair trade, they provide the meat vaule that is required to enter an assault(3 people min.) and I would do the actual thing. In the end we all get Assault Points, though I don't understand where Imperial Standing and EXP comes from...

However, if someone hired me to farm animas for them in promyvion, or a high level RDM to solo Genbu or a NM or something, that took alot of effort and time, I think a fee would be just fine. And a really nice thing about teh site, in my opinion, is that you could find people for missions and EXP parties beforehand, and mabye even form one of the legendary treasured statics(I can never get one going...)

[Murphie]

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However, if someone hired me to farm animas for them in promyvion, or a high level RDM to solo Genbu or a NM or something, that took alot of effort and time, I think a fee would be just fine. And a really nice thing about teh site, in my opinion, is that you could find people for missions and EXP parties beforehand, and mabye even form one of the legendary treasured statics(I can never get one going...)

You may have missed it the first time I posted it for you, but you can't farm Animas for someone else. They are Rare/Ex. And since both of you would be capped at 30 in the Promyvions, then I don't see why you would be a better farmer than they would. If I could farm them as WHM, I don't see why anyone else couldn't do the same.

My point: If someone is paying someone else to farm something that they could farm themselves (and have to be present for anyway since it's Rare/Ex), then they are hella lazy. Also, probably not a very good player. It's not like memories are like getting a Rabbit Charm to drop. These are common items.

[Neomage]

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I certainly see your point. I never really knew all jobs could solo in promyvion, I thought only certain ones could do it.. that makes me wonder why people hire me in the first place then O.o

[Murphie]

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I certainly see your point. I never really knew all jobs could solo in promyvion, I thought only certain ones could do it.. that makes me wonder why people hire me in the first place then O.o

Because people are lazy. And often also stupid. That means that they are unlikely to try something new or different in order to see if they can do it. It's much easier to just ask someone else to do it for them.

I also duo'd my Tavnazian Bell for my AF3 (with a level 60 RDM friend). I was willing to find someone to help me with it if it didn't work out, but I wanted to see first if I could manage it (almost) on my own. And I could! So I saved gil and time.^^

[Shopee]

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I think its an intriguing idea in some respects, but saying "making gil" by "helping others" in the same sentence is somewhat absurd. Helping isn't helping when there's a profit for the helper, that's contract work.

Depends on how you define "help".

Just because you ask for payment does not mean you aren't in any way being useful, especially if you are offering a good price. It seems this system would be a way of increasing the ability of people who need help to find it, which in itself is a helpful mechanism, and anyone willing to offer their time and services, even for a price, is ultimately being helpful to the person willing to pay. It's mutual interest.

That doesn't mean you aren't being helpful.

It just isn't charity.

All help =/= charity.

[Murphie]

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Depends on how you define "help".

Just because you ask for payment does not mean you aren't in any way being charitable, especially if you are offering a good price. It seems this system would be a way of increasing the ability of people who need help to find it, which in itself is a helpful mechanism, and anyone willing to offer their time and services, even for a price, is ultimately being helpful to the person willing to pay.

Provided, once again, that the individuals in need of such a service actually know that it exists, and are willing to take the time to use it.