wow what's with this attitude

[Murphie]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

*cough* so that party when I was pulling totally sucked then??

No, that party was alsom. Well, the puller and the tank were alsom. Every one else sucked. Especially the WHM.

Especially the WHM.

[Kirsteena]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

No, that party was alsom. Well, the puller and the tank were alsom. Every one else sucked. Especially the WHM.

Especially the WHM.

I dunno, I liked the macro spamming smn personally... but yeah, the puller and tank were awesome.

[Murphie]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

That RNG from my Valkurm thread takes the cake on Macro spammers for me. But there was this MNK with a boost macro the other day...

[Jugil]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

But there was this MNK with a boost macro the other day

/em shudders

Any MNK that puts party text in a Boost macro should be MPK'd XD.

I can see it now:

/p Preparing to Boost : <me>
/p Full Attack !!!111!!!
/p Prepare for My attack all of Vanadiel
/ja “Boost” <me>
/wait 5
/p Boost @ 10 lolz
/wait 5
/p Boost @ 5 !!!111!!! eleventy-one
/wait 5
/p Boost is ready !!!111!!!

[Kirsteena]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

Just - kill me now...

[Icemage]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

Hey, I pulled in my last XP party. Then again, I was in a manaburn party with RDM + BLM x 5, but when was the last time you pulled cluster-bomb type enemies for an XP party, eh?

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Seriously, though, RDM is one of the more difficult jobs to play, and it does require at least half a brain to play decently. There's a lot of stupid players out there. By and large, the ones who would be good at it and like it have already made their way up the ladder to 75, which leaves the rest of the people who never seem to get much smarter no matter how much they play FFXI...


Icemage

[Raydeus]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

Hopefully now that we have BLU most of the players that want to play RDM/melee only for their soloing skillz (yep with a z) will move towards BLU instead.

[Hamlet]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

RDM is a complicated demanding job (comparitively speaking). You will get invites fast, I imagine, no matter how good you are. Probably the main reason is because if you're craptastic in a pt, and they decide to never invite you again:

1- they'll be desperate enough to invite you again later

2- you get so many invites that you lvl past them and the new people at the higher lvls don't know how crappy you are.

Honestly, however, I think rdm is the one job where your skill or lack of skill really shows. In reality, most players are probably crappy and not very knowledgable, but it doesn't show as much in other jobs because they don't have to do as many different things, or as regularly.

The best thing about all these crappy rdms I always hear about is getting huge compliments while ptying just for doing my job correctly. lol

edit: in one of my last pts, the leader said to me, "Finally, a RDM that enfeebles!" I was like wtf, there's rdms that don't enfeeb? Then he went on about me keeping refresh cycles going. Keep in mind, this was a lvl 74 pt.

[Raydeus]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

The best thing about all these crappy rdms I always hear about is getting huge compliments while ptying just for doing my job correctly. lol

I can't believe how many times I got hugged/humped/kissed etc. just for having a proper Refresh/Haste cicle and even the ahhh! and wow! I got when my enfs sticked at the first try because of equip macros.


Makes you wonder what the hell are all those crappy RDMs doing out there.

[Matera]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

I've noticed a lot of crappy players around myself.

It's because the Xbox players are dispersing past level 40 now.

As for people being morons... Well, Rdm is a tough job. You need timing and the ability to think for yourself more than anything.

What can I say, other than some people just don't get it?

(This post was not made to insult anybody who plays on Xbox. I generally find that people on forums are more attentive, aware of issues, and proactive with their character. IE: Will have skills capped, amongst other things.)

[ValisOfValefor]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

Makes you wonder what the hell are all those crappy RDMs doing out there.

Heres been my experience lately.

Not refreshing the tank or any other mage than themselves (except for those who do it when we start geting to low mp.... sometimes)

Not Hasting anyone besides that monk who can rip hate off me easily (If your gonna haste the monk, and not get a theif, then its probably better to haste me too, be cause im gonna be flashing as much as possible)

Casting Dispel maybe sooner or later.

Maybe casting Debuf here and there.

Sometimes casting a Elemental spell (Cmon when the enemy is down really low, and we have no rdm, and we're having some difficulty hitting the enemy then its nice if you help us kill it faster)

Casting a Cure here and there, becuase we've gone to a chain 5, and the White mage, and me are completly used, becuase we didn't get refresh.

And theres my rant at all the bad Red mages I've gotten lately (and bad ones have been the only ones ive gotten period..... well except for the one that did nothing but keep a refresh cycle, and cured every once and awhile, he was ok kinda.... Basicly what im saying is refresh kicks ass, use it on people....)

[DakAttack]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

Kajidoh assures me that these idiots I keep partying with are just the Xbox 360 crowd who's yet to learn. It's overly frustrating! Now I feel like leveling Rdm, and that's going to require me to level three more jobs through the dunes, four max. Leveling Sam would require leveling three other jobs through the dunes max.

[McBride]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

RDM is a very, very tough and demanding job. I started leveling it originally for sneak and invisible a few years back and stopped after I got it to level 32 or so. After I took a break from the game for six months, I came back and began leveling it again so I could eventually make a set with my girlfriend, a paladin. In Garlaige, I met four people and began partying with them. They eventually gave me a pearl to their LS and we formed a semi-set. Since then, I'd been totally engrossed in what it means to be a true red mage. Part of being a red mage means being versatile. Until I got refresh, I was almost always the main healer... and I still main healed quite a long time after that, too.

However, overall, a red mage NEEDS to know how to work chat filters. If a red mage can do that, he can do all of the enfeebles required to make a PT run smoothly. A red mage that can't see when debuffs wear or when a dispel needs to be thrown is 5 points closer to being worthless. Put up a refresh and haste cycle, throw out debuffs in-between the cycles, and throw a heal in when it's absolutely necessary. That's what I feel a red mage should do.

Two months ago, I had to leave the set due to a few problems. One of them was that RDM was such a demanding job... and it almost never has a break outside of 'afk for WC' moments. People don't seem to realize that.

[Icemage]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

With the new ToAU zones, I don't do nearly as much enfeebling as I used to. Pretty much just Paralyze and Dia II, if I can spare the time and MP. Battles just don't seem to last long enough to even bother with enfeebles since you're fighting T or low VTs mostly.

Actually, the amusing thing is that the most frequent enfeebling spell I use now is Sleep II to hold monsters ready while the rest of the party works its way like an assembly line through the queued up monsters.

I still get enough chances to cap my skill though, so it's fine; but with the speed of the current burn parties, you don't really get much of a chance to do anything before the monster dies.


Icemage

[klvino]

Re: wow what's with this attitude

As with the OPs example of bad RDMs in QSC, I believe that is the zone when RDMs really learn their job if they have never exp'd that high before. Beetles are easy enough, RDMs practice Dispelling and Debuffing them. When you start on the Antican, RDM then learn they have to be on their toes with the Hastes, Refreshes, and Dispels as that really determines how well you'll fare against them. Antica are great training mobs, they have good resist of Sleep and Slow, have bad AOEs, hate reset TP move, alot of buffs to dispel, and will kill a party if you don't pay attention.

Most of the bad RDMs I've encountered were in QSC, and most of those bad RDMs are still stuck at 60 or only a couple of levels past that. If you suck as a RDM, you will become known, almost notorious. If you suck in my party, I will remember your name and avoid partying with you ever again. Some people have sucked so horrible that you just say their name and it's an instant joke, Jameston.