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Re: Blacklist drama
My view is pretty similar. I've been playing MMOs for a few years now, and I've managed to hit some of the more popular ones in that time. All of them have problems that are commonly shared (RMT, griefing), and all of them have problems unique to them because of individual game mechanics. I've seen public blacklists created for all of them, for a myriad of reasons and with an equal number of different effects and reactions.
Personally, I rarely pay public Blacklists any mind. Most are merely a listing of names and a sort of general statement as to why everyone should avoid them. I've seen listings of people who are bad at X job, or people who steal treasure, or people who grief other players, etc. What all of them have in common is that I very rarely know any of the names on the list personally, nor in many cases do I know the list maker any better. Who do I side with there? Random Person A who apparently did something wrong? Or Random Person B who made the claim about Person A? What almost all of these lists are lacking in is concrete proof to give anyone a reason to side with the person making the claim.
Maybe it's just the way I play the game. Maybe it's just the fact that I understand that frustrating things happen from time to time (see my little ranty thread from earlier this week), and I don't let those things get to me. But I just can't see any reason for creating a public blacklist of individuals for any reason - no matter how angry they may have made me. Because ultimately it won't work, and ultimately it's my word against theirs.
All I have is what I see with my own two eyes, and what people say when I'm having a discussion with them. I can't see if they are running bots and hacks in the background. I can't see if they are farming gil to sell, or just farming gil to buy that piece of armor they want. I don't know if they are claiming an HNM for an item to use, or claiming it so that they can monopolize the spawn and sell the chance to lot to another player (RMT aren't the only ones guilty of this). I don't have any more information than any other casual observer, and as such, I don't have the authority to make anything beyond the most general of claims against another player.
And neither does anyone else. And that's why I don't trust/like/agree with public blacklists.
Originally posted by Kirsteena
Personally, I rarely pay public Blacklists any mind. Most are merely a listing of names and a sort of general statement as to why everyone should avoid them. I've seen listings of people who are bad at X job, or people who steal treasure, or people who grief other players, etc. What all of them have in common is that I very rarely know any of the names on the list personally, nor in many cases do I know the list maker any better. Who do I side with there? Random Person A who apparently did something wrong? Or Random Person B who made the claim about Person A? What almost all of these lists are lacking in is concrete proof to give anyone a reason to side with the person making the claim.
Maybe it's just the way I play the game. Maybe it's just the fact that I understand that frustrating things happen from time to time (see my little ranty thread from earlier this week), and I don't let those things get to me. But I just can't see any reason for creating a public blacklist of individuals for any reason - no matter how angry they may have made me. Because ultimately it won't work, and ultimately it's my word against theirs.
All I have is what I see with my own two eyes, and what people say when I'm having a discussion with them. I can't see if they are running bots and hacks in the background. I can't see if they are farming gil to sell, or just farming gil to buy that piece of armor they want. I don't know if they are claiming an HNM for an item to use, or claiming it so that they can monopolize the spawn and sell the chance to lot to another player (RMT aren't the only ones guilty of this). I don't have any more information than any other casual observer, and as such, I don't have the authority to make anything beyond the most general of claims against another player.
And neither does anyone else. And that's why I don't trust/like/agree with public blacklists.
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