Greivances with "The List"

[Feba]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

See how fast you get smacked for OOT posting if you post something besides wanting information.

Do you really think I care what the admins say on the issue? I respect them, but I respect my own opinions and beliefs more than I respect anyone on this planet.

I moved it here since it had already gotten more of a response, not because of anything the admins said.

As I said, the topic of "the list" is "the list". If you don't like that people disagreeing with your list is part of it, leave ffxionline. A Public forum will be subject to public opinion, if you can't accept that, take it somewhere private, as Ael* suggested.


RD, you should be reminded that you are not a mod either, and this can very easily turn against you. You'd do best not to talk down to others like that, especially when there are many people who agree with them.

Until then, I will do as I damn well please.

As in, with no respect for the community at all.

If you don't want to respect the fact that people here don't agree with it, take it offsite, or back to alla.

[RunningDemon]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

Wait, was I the one who said for people not to argue in the original thread?

No, that was Taskmage. Then you and TGM who was unaware of the agreement with PiNG decided to come after me.

Then Taskmage asked again.

Then you came again.

Now who is not respecting the community? I had no problem dealing with whiners and complainers in the original thread like I did on allakhazam. But I kept telling you people to make a new thread and do as the admin said, and I am the one hurting the community?


And Feba, you may have the people jumping on your little bandwagon here. I have the truth. The truth is known to people on Seraph. You are not on Seraph. Your opinion does not matter until you get on here, talk to people, and see things firsthand.

I have asked if anyone wanted a WP close to hald a dozen times at least. You have not responded. If it is worth it this much to you, to bitch and moan on here, for this long, how is it not worth it for you to go with 1 less mule for a month and check it out?

You will have the WP tomorrow if you ask. Anyone will. Or you can keep complaining and doing nothing, showing you don't really give a crap and are just trying to stir up trouble.

[Murphie]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

Hell if i know Ael. You Feba and others could not keep on topic in the original thread and kept argueing with me, despite the moderators' orders. I'd respond to this over in the List if you posted it there, since it is very entertaining to me.

I only posted one query in that thread on the last page, before this thread was created. So, I'm not sure where you get that I couldn't keep on topic. If a mod tells me not to post somewhere, I don't.

You are the one that requested we make this thread. Now that it's here, you think it's funny or something. Strange sense of humor.

So Ael, you are saying that Chrismeng was not a RMT? You are saying that if you ask anyone in endgame on Seraph who has been there a year, they will not know about Chrismeng? My Sareal proof is not good enough? Even though they admit they know he is RMT. Even though Chrismeng, even though banned for half a year+ now, is still the second most known RMT on my server...

Just because you don't know jack about Seraph anymore, does not mean you can pass judgment on us that are still there Ael.

Ok, where did I say any of this? Are you sure we're reading the same thread? If I said any of these things, please clue me in as to where, because I don't recall this at all.

I'm not sure what I've said here that could possibly give you any clue what I do and don't know about Seraph. What I do know is what I've seen over the past year in the forums there from you and your pals, and what I've seen in game of your behavior and attitude towards other players.

Cole - As long as this list is on the FFXIO forums, I am allowed to have an opinion on it. If you want to move it to your own site, have at it. You'll never hear from me again.

[Taskmage]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

We can't make you respect us, Feba, but please don't make us fight you about where your posts go. There is a thread for this discussion now and it is this one. I think I've been as nice about this as possible.

[RunningDemon]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

I'm not sure what I've said here that could possibly give you any clue what I do and don't know about Seraph. What I do know is what I've seen over the past year in the forums there from you and your pals, and what I've seen in game of your behavior and attitude towards other players.

Well then, ya don't know crap.

I am one of the nicest, albiet perverted towards tarus, people that you will ever find. There is a big difference between one's actions and attitude posting in a shitstorm such as this and between who they really are.

[Feba]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

You have not responded.

Yes, I have, and you have not responded to my responses. If you want to play that game, go back some, and answer.

I have the truth.

The truth, as you decide.

Now who is not respecting the community?

Taskmage requested. He didn't order, or split it off then. Like I just stated, I respect FFXIO's mods, but I respect my opinions far more than them. At the time, the argument was there, I argued there.

You are not on Seraph. Your opinion does not matter

Tell me, why is seraph so special? Seriously, ARE YOU THE ONLY SERVER WITH RMT? People keep asking, you keep ignoring it.

Do you think you're worse off than everyone else?

Now, this is a public forum, by submitting your posts you're agreeing to let everyone cover it with their opinion, if you don't like mine, that doesn't make it irrelevant, that makes you immature.

Double Post Edited:

There is a thread for this discussion now and it is this one.

Which is why i've been posting here, thankyouverymuch.

[Murphie]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

Well then, ya don't know crap.

I am one of the nicest, albiet perverted towards tarus, people that you will ever find. There is a big difference between one's actions and attitude posting in a shitstorm such as this and between who they really are.

If I were just referring to your posts here, you'd have a point. Alas! I'm referring to your posts throughout Alla, and your actions and behaviors in game, where I have observed you from time to time. You say you are really nice, but you sure could have fooled me.

[RunningDemon]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

Tell me, why is seraph so special? Seriously, ARE YOU THE ONLY SERVER WITH RMT? People keep asking, you keep ignoring it.

No. I answered this before, would you bother to read, apparently you have not.

And why do ppl not from Seraph, who have never been on Seraph, spoken with someone from Seraph, and wouldn't know Gimya from Muteki, not get taken seriously by me? Might as well as why an Amish person gets laughed at during a nuclear physicists convention.


You don't know anything about any of the people mentioned, period.

Double Post Edited:

If I were just referring to your posts here, you'd have a point. Alas! I'm referring to your posts throughout Alla, and your actions and behaviors in game, where I have observed you from time to time. You say you are really nice, but you sure could have fooled me.

So, you say you left Seraph over a year ago, I am touched that I made such an impression during that time. You obviously didn't make an impression on me. Since you do no play on Seraph anymore, mind telling your name?

And why bring up allak? There were hard feelings there when people reposted the guides I moved here, then accused me of killing the community, even though I posted links. Yes, I am the E-Terrorist, E-Satan, E-Jesus. Take your pick, I have been called them all, and they all fit depending on your position.

[Feba]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

You don't know anything about any of the people mentioned, period.

You just don't get it.

The entire dispute isn't over the people, it's over your proof. You know what proof you've provided so far? "Aug.4 2004" and "If you don't disband within 10 minutes I will ruin your reputation". That is not proof. That is a date and a threat. If someone threatened you, do you think you'd listen to them?

[RunningDemon]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

Again, I explain where and what the list is at the times I talked to them, a point Feba fails to realize. Hell, I had it macroed before the HDD on PC fried. Just had to /cm t name, then hit a macro.

[Raydeus]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

You just don't get it.

The entire dispute isn't over the people, it's over your proof. You know what proof you've provided so far? "Aug.4 2004" and "If you don't disband within 10 minutes I will ruin your reputation". That is not proof. That is a date and a threat. If someone threatened you, do you think you'd listen to them?

He is too fanatic of himself to even understand what you are talking about, you know how things end up with insane people like that.


I wonder for how long are the mods gonna allow him to continue with that list without presenting any proof to back up the acusations about people the in it...

[Murphie]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

So, you say you left Seraph over a year ago, I am touched that I made such an impression during that time. You obviously didn't make an impression on me. Since you do no play on Seraph anymore, mind telling your name?

And why bring up allak? There were hard feelings there when people reposted the guides I moved here, then accused me of killing the community, even though I posted links. Yes, I am the E-Terrorist, E-Satan, E-Jesus. Take your pick, I have been called them all, and they all fit depending on your position.

I left Seraph in December of 2005. I was a regular reader of the Alla forums before and after that, though. My character's name was Miravelle, which you wouldn't recognize. But thanks for asking.

I only bring up Alla because I find it hard to believe that someone's personality can make such a complete 180. I really found your behavior there (outside of the BST forums where I will admit that you did quite a bit of good) pretty reprehensible for the most part.

[Feba]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

So? Some random person's "List" on a forum you've never heard of is supposed to convince you to break your PT, ASSUMING you even have a second PC or windower to view it on anyway?

[Taskmage]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

I think the Saerael shot was pretty good proof though you're welcome to disagree.

Unfortunately, PiNG's stipulation about providing hard proof of that nature seems to only apply to updates and edits. This is irrellevant to the morality issue of course, but as far as the thread's continued place on these forums, that is the lay of the land at the moment.

Edit: This thread moves too fast.

[RunningDemon]

Re: Greivances with "The List"

I follow the rules given to me by mods at all times. I have proof IN THE THREAD for ppl added since the allak merger to here. Hell, by the end of the week this list will be half as large due to a trick Task told me about how to check if someone still plays.

And IF YOU HAD READ, if and when a admin asks me to contact or get proof for each one on thread I will. It is going to take time though, tracking down obvious RMT, and talking to people who put exp > all, during my free time.