General NM Questions

[WishMaster3K]

Ok, Mystery Tour and a bunch of other sites don't have information that is correlated, so I'll ask here.

I'm not going to pay 15mil for a Peacock Necklace, I effing refuse. So, with that said, it's Argus time.

How does he work? I hear from one site he's 21-24, and I hear from another that he's 16-30 -.-. Does he have a PH? What's going on!

Ok, anyway, I'll probaly find out myself before I get an answer. In any case, I've camped a few too many NMs, so ppl can add questions here.

If anyone cares to know, I have the fool-proof way of claiming Valk Emperor.

In other news, I've been trying to camp Lord of Onzozo, but yeah, he's a bitch and a half. As is Ose. *sigh* Unless you have money, this game is so nervewracking.

-Ren

[Matera]

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I've never camped Argus, but from what I know, he's 21-24, no PH.

Also, let's hear the Valk strat.

[Murphie]

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I'd love to get an Empress Pin for leveling NIN and THF, but I don't think I could take the Emperor at 30, so I'll probably just have to spend my savings on the Emperor Pin.

[Tirrock]

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http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=121058

A pretty good amount of information about argus in this thread. I don't like just posting links to other threads, but I haven't bothered camping this NM myself.

[Ryddr]

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From what I've learned through years of NM hunting ...

...is that Argus is 21-24 Lottery spawn. I don't know if you'd consider this a PH, but the Leech King is another NM around the corner from him, and if the Leech King spawns, Argus will not spawn for another 12 hours at least. Argus and the Leech King cannot be up at the same time. So, That's probably where the 30hr thing came in (Argus spawned, then 20+ hours later the Leech King spawned, so 30+ hours later Argus spawns again). The difficult part about camping Argus is not only knowing what time he'll spawn, but also whether or not the Leech King is up.

Also..if you happen to see the Leech King, take care when killing him. He resides in a room filled with Thread Leeches, which are relatively weak, but they have hella-strength in numbers.

[Murphie]

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Also..if you happen to see the Leech King, take care when killing him. He resides in a room filled with Thread Leeches, which are relatively weak, but they have hella-strength in numbers.

Some LS members helped me get a Carby Ruby there. The BLM just -ga'd all of them and ran around the room. She died horribly though (level 66). I felt kind of bad, but she was cool with it.

[Taskmage]

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I killed literally hundreds of leeches in that room without getting a ruby. >< I counted the number of leeches and the number of times I trained the whole room and it came out to over 200 kills with /thf15. ><

[Ryddr]

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Ouch, when I was level 52Thf, I went there with a 60Thf of mine on a sort of random adventure..partially camping Argus but not really. We walked into Argus's room, just saw the 2 bats chillin there, we walked over to Leech room and the Leech King was way in the back. So my buddy puts Utsu up, and I was Thf/Rng , but I didn't really fight either. He shot the Leech King with an acid bolt and every leech linked onto him. The Leech King took a little over a minute to kill and we saved our Tp on it as well. After about 3 cyclones from each of us all of the leeches were dead, and we were hangin' on with red HP.

...and that is why there's a Carbuncles Ruby sitting in my bank for no reason lol.

[Omni]

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Wishmaster4k (i bumped you up a kilo :D) do you have any advice on getting bounding boots? i actually had a pair of leaping boots but had to pawn it to raise some funds for something i dont even remember now. id like to get my hands on a pair, if you have any special info like your VE info, that be great. or anyone for that matter :p

im like 0/4 on him and I really hate camping that area since its so large and bumpy.

speaking of nm news, i got myself an Othinus' bow finally :D

[Murphie]

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I killed literally hundreds of leeches in that room without getting a ruby. >< I counted the number of leeches and the number of times I trained the whole room and it came out to over 200 kills with /thf15. ><

It got better. We actually did find a Ruby, but the same BLM D2'd me after a quick [Congratulations!] without first waiting for the Ruby to make it to my inventory. So I had to get one myself later.

[Ryddr]

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Oh Nohs!

[Matera]

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I got a Ruby on my fifth leech. >.>

[Ryddr]

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Leech King dropped mine actually... muwahaha? muwha? ha?..ha.

[WishMaster3K]

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Holy Shit, you type "NM" in the title and everyone flocks. Ok well, here is my Fool-Proof VE Strat.

First, you need WideScan. Secondly, you need to be able to claim him, or at least outclaim other campers (this is important later).

Ok, Odd thing about Valkrum is that the mobs there are on 5 minute timers, as opposed to 80% of the old world's 16 min timers.

If you go to the acclaimed VE spot (Where the tree is on the west side of the map), and you WideScan, you'll see what appears to be random info.

Alright, here is where things get fun:

About halfway down the widescan list is a Group of Four Damselflies. This group is different from another group, because the group you want to look at is the group Below the Snippers but above the Thread Leeches. So your widescan (if no mobs are killed) should look like this;

Snipper
Snipper
Snipper
Snipper
Damselfly
Damselfly
Damselfly
Damselfly
Thread Leech
Thread Leech. . . etc

The TOP Damselfly is the PH for VE. And he respawns every 5 mins.

So what I do is, I Kite all the mobs in that group and hold them in some corner where ppl won't run to me and kill them, and I watch the WideScan. After all 4 are up, and i'm in control of the ToD, claiming VE is actually very easy.

So, control those 4, you only need to kill the top one, and Activate Sharpshot after it dies (Sharpshot is a 5 Minute Cool Down, so it's perfect). When I am in control of the group and the PH, I've never NOT claimed VE.

One more thing, VE appears at the bottom of that group when he spawns. Some ppl on this board might be good campers, but I'm not. I can outcamp 2 people, especially if they're running around randomly killing. They get tired of that after a couple of hours. But when camping against someone who knows, either:
A) Try to trick them by controlling the Top Fly on the list, and killing it, so that they kill what's Top for THEM, effectively misguiding them into killing the wrong Mob.
B) Be nice and talk to them. Usually, they'll tell you in /t when they're done camping or whatever.

Moving on, I just went to Argus and it was bots Galore. So Eff that.

Maybe the same is true of LoO, don't cha think? My friend (who claimed it 8 times ina row, now he's filthy rich) said it's 21-24, but someone whom I befriended while me and him bravely camped against GSers said it's 16-30.

I'm guessing that maybe Narasimha effects LoO, since they're both 75-77 NMs. Any word on this?

Oh, Omni, the same is true for Leaping Lizzy, but she's more complicated because you have to rely on Two Lizards, and it's not as simple as VE. But I'll look more into that and let you know.

One more thing, VE is completely random. I've gotten him to pop within 20 mins and other times I've waited 4 hours.

[ValisOfValefor]

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Nice strategy for the Valk emperor. Ill try that (since i just dinged 50 its worth to go back and get thf up to 37 (mostly for flee))

Btw for hunting Argus did you know they sell 12 packs of red bull now


You might need one of those. I tried hunting him before and fell alseep at my keyboard. for 5 minutes, apparently someone else claimed him >< while i was KO'd