What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

[Ketaru]

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No. I just go on the Official Forums where Cidbahamut allegedly "trolls".

Maybe it's because I don't have other mage jobs leveled other than RDM and SCH so I can only compare those 2 from firsthand experience. But my opinion of the job diverges from other peoples in those parts of the woods. I don't think RDM is a weak job at all. It's fallen victim to the fact enemies are being designed to marginalize the effectiveness of debuffs (just about the only debuffs that really do anything to new NMs are Dia, Addle, and Dispel). But benefits from having exclusive proc spells which somewhat balanced out its shortcomings in Abyssea, where I felt debuffs were actually quite useful, but RDM lacked procs.

SCH has its own things to contribute, but I'm increasingly finding them to not be worth the hassle. It has to juggle spells and abilities to perform worse at what the specialist mages do. It has spells that modify enmity gain, but those are spells that would've fit the game better back when the level cap was still 75. They're rather useless now. And Regain and +7 attribute spells that can be cast on others.

[Melody]

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Pet Peeve of the Evening, Ray can vouch for this, was in a Gusgen Mines party on WHM. Little shit head Dancer invited 2 level 1 Mage Leechers named Tarusy and Tarusan. Both were twins. They leeched from level 1-13. Now I would understand if they came in at 10...No. Level ONE. Has the playerbase of XI become so lacking that they can't even go through the beginning levels? This is ridiculous. That is why I like the old way of XI, where everything wasn't just handed to you on a silver fucking platter. We got rid of the leechers after the party leader kicked them after 3 damn hours of free EXP. Their Manthra friend Serenityhell jumped down my throat, saying, "Oh it's not your party, shut the hell up." I told them, "I'm not going to bother with people who leech or support leechers, so shut your mouth and fight." About a 4 hours down the road, after the leechers leave, they show back up again. Shouting for invites. I sit there and say, "Oh these are Serenityhell's friends." Serenity then rampages and cusses up a storm in the party chat. I wish I had them in my party I would've kicked them with the swiftness. Oh god I wish Alliance Leaders had control of all three parties..oh I wish so much....the training in Gusgen for me ended when I Ding'd WHM to 31 and mocked Serenity with a "Goodbye Manthra." before tele'ing off to Sandy. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm going to be drunk right now I would've done a lot worse.

[Raydeus]

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XD

[cidbahamut]

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ARGLEBLARG

Sounds like someone leveling mule characters. You're not going to get anywhere if you staunchly refuse to be associated with anyone who has leeched or tolerated people who leeched. It's just too widespread. Also: there are no new players, and most many returning players just want to get back to the endgame scene/max level so they can do stuff with folks again.

I just have to say, Saevel's SCH Envy is awe inspiring. Especially given that the job just gets clumsier and clumsier to play to the point I no longer even enjoy it. And it has the same "drawbacks" that people say about RDM compared to specialists: it doesn't heal as well as WHM, it doesn't nuke as well as BLM. Did you know Klimaform is not Enhancing magic, yet its duration is affected by Composure? On RDM, I could cast it with Light Arts up and still keep the spell up full time. Can't say that about SCH main. And it recently had many of its job defining spells pawned off to people subbing /SCH, all to the end of making SCH main unnecessary for Voidwatch. Did I mention it's extremely clumsy to play these days?

The only people who could possibly think SCH has it good right now are people who don't actually play the job and seem to have gone on believing its BLM+1 ever since it started receiving tier IV nukes. Quite frankly, I think being a SCH sucks right now. I hate to play it. And frankly, nobody ever asks me for it. That's why I'm thinking its time to just drop the job in favor of another one. But I recently bought Thunder V, which was expensive. So I would feel really dumb for just dropping it now.

I saw the writing on the wall back when I was leveling Scholar as a sub-job. It was bound to happen sooner or later. Too many moving parts, etc.

It really is pretty obvious who's actually played with Scholar and who hasn't by how they describe it. People who haven't played it will cite stratagems as some sort of unlimited access to super powers and think SCH has all spells at all times. Fuck that noise, being locked out of anything above tier III nukes without addendum: black alone is a hell of a thing to work around before you even start working the rest of Scholar's goodies in. People are crazy.

While I can sympathize that having your cool toys handed out to others is a kick below the belt, I must say getting access to helix spells was pretty damn sweet. Those things are so much fun and make /SCH that much better for RDM. So even though it shouldn't have happened, I'm a fan.

[Ketaru]

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While I can sympathize that having your cool toys handed out to others is a kick below the belt, I must say getting access to helix spells was pretty damn sweet. Those things are so much fun and make /SCH that much better for RDM. So even though it shouldn't have happened, I'm a fan.

Well, another sign that maybe I should quit the job is how apathetic I am to that happening. I'm much more pleased at being able to use them on RDM, actually.

But I really only brought it up as another comparison between the current complaints about RDM, that you can sub the job and get most of the benefits of the job right from /RDM. I think that goes for /SCH. All it would need is Thunderstorm to seal the deal. That's something about SCH that often seems to go under the radar though every time somebody goes on a "RDM is a weaker version of SCH" rampage.

People like to oversimplify it to try and illustrate their point: RDM and SCH both cast heals and nukes. SCH has a higher tier of nukes than RDM, though. Therefore, SCH must be superior to RDM!

[Melody]

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I am steamed. Once again I come back to the fucking conclusion of ignorant players. I hate XI for that so much, players who take this game so fucking seriously they deem it a damn real job. I simply asked for help one time if I could join an Abyssea party some bitch put her two sense in named Borunholy. Sat there and argued that I want everything handed to me, their ignorant fucking pride made my anger skyrocket. I almost raged, but I got them before they got me. They kept saying I sucked at the game and want people to take my hand through everything, I have other jobs leveled, I simply wanted help getting my WHM from 31 to 50. Since I you can't find a decent party anymore since Abyssea ripped the fucking spine out of XI and made everyone's jobs useless. This is why I am moving on to XIV when the Beta for PS3 comes out. The playerbase for XI has turned itself into WoW meatheads, which I cannot tolerate. I am the most casual woman in the fucking world, but I will be damned if some ignorant shithead will ruin my gaming experience because they want to take a game so damn seriously and rage over someone asking for help. I've never met such an ignorant person. I hate to see what parents raised them, good lord they must be proud of having such an ignorant child.

[Squiggs]

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Are you saying you wanted to leech your WHM from 31-50? Didn't we get into an argument YESTERDAY about how you hate leeches? Seriously, what the fuck changed in 24 hours?

[Raydeus]

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/comfort

[Melody]

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Considering I had no choice. I went to Yhoater Jungle, tried to find a party doing Mandy's nobody was there, I went to Quifim, not a person out there doing Pugils/Worms/Crabs. I wasn't going to sit in Gusgen Mines again. I went to CN, nobody would take me due to me being 31 WHM. So I did a last resort and asked for an Abyssea party, since I don't know many leveling spots from 31+ other than Quifim and Qufim is dry as hell. Yeah people love to bitch about leeching when they themselves have done it, I wish Abyssea never came out, it changed the game completely and why does it matter now Squiggs it's over and done with, yes I've leeched, there you go you've won that argument are you satisfied with my answer? Does it please you to know that I am contradictory to my own fucking statement? Someone shoot me.

[Takelli]

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Considering I had no choice. I went to Yhoater Jungle, tried to find a party doing Mandy's nobody was there, I went to Quifim, not a person out there doing Pugils/Worms/Crabs. I wasn't going to sit in Gusgen Mines again. I went to CN, nobody would take me due to me being 31 WHM. So I did a last resort and asked for an Abyssea party, since I don't know many leveling spots from 31+ other than Quifim and Qufim is dry as hell. Yeah people love to bitch about leeching when they themselves have done it, I wish Abyssea never came out, it changed the game completely and why does it matter now Squiggs it's over and done with, yes I've leeched, there you go you've won that argument are you satisfied with my answer? Does it please you to know that I am contradictory to my own fucking statement? Someone shoot me.

People have to leech now around these times because there is no one actually playing the game, leveling up in parties, or enjoying it like it should be. You know, with friends, and having a good conversation while grinding away like I used to do.

I don't think I've ever leeched (Except for when I go afk.), always try to do something, even if you are too low of a level to be much of help there. Toss out a heal if you are able to heal, do a debuff, or nuke, or DoT the target. Never just sit there if you can help it.

[Raydeus]

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And to think I need to lvl whm too.

Those 12 levels will suck even with the novennial-something ring I have.

[Melody]

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Well I am not getting back on XI until I calm down and like I said when the beta for 14 on PS3 comes out. I'm gone.

[Squiggs]

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@Ray - 37 is perfect sync for CN

@Melody - I would have that CN would take you at 31 because whm gets C3 at 21, so they have plenty of use there. But, they didn't. My post wasn't criticizing you so much for being upset about what happened, because that person shouldn't have talked to you like that, it was criticizing your abrupt change of stance. After yesterday, I would have thought you would have done anything to avoid leeching. Obviously that wasn't the case.

@Takelli - People don't have to leech, ever.

[cidbahamut]

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People have to leech now around these times because there is no one actually playing the game, leveling up in parties, or enjoying it like it should be. You know, with friends, and having a good conversation while grinding away like I used to do.

I don't think I've ever leeched (Except for when I go afk.), always try to do something, even if you are too low of a level to be much of help there. Toss out a heal if you are able to heal, do a debuff, or nuke, or DoT the target. Never just sit there if you can help it.

I dunno about you Tak, but I spent most of my time in parties silently cursing the fact that 4 of the five other people in them were super gimp or just plain retarded. Most of the /party chat came from stupid macros.

[Melody]

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@Squiggs You jumped down my throat about doing things the old way which contradicts what you were even speaking about leeching. That's why I got upset with you.