What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Nope... you just feed any "Amorph" NM to Fistule to claim him. It can been the leech... or that guy... or 1 other I can't remember. If it were a 3 part process... I don't know that I'd bother.

[cidbahamut]

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I knew I shouldn't have leveled /WHM.

Dammit dammit dammit.

[Ketaru]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Ah, the BST Dev post is up. I knew it wouldn't disappoint in disappointing!

Bst Job adjustment manifesto concerns and questions. - Page 3

[Armando]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

We have discussed this before in the new spell thread, but due to current settings, if pets are able to skillchain, monsters will be able to skillchain as well. This would be interesting, but the balance of battles would be changed drastically, so this would be difficult.

Yeah, 'cuz mobs are totally gonna skillchain you by using TP at random times and picking random TP moves! And that's assuming you're actually fighting two mobs at once without any form of crowd control.

I would've understood if they had said they didn't have time to assign SC attributes to every single mob attack (even though if they just assigned them at random it'd still be a bonus to BSTs.)

[Mhurron]

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They might as well just come out and say - "you people don't skillchain anyway and haven't for three years, who the fuck cares if pets can?"

[Taskmage]

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They might as well just come out and say - "you people don't skillchain anyway and haven't for three years, who the fuck cares if pets can?"

That's only true of jobs that require another human being to skillchain. Sam and blu skillchain all the time, and if bst could solo skillchain they would too. If anything they'd skillchain more than sam or blu do, due to not being in party situations where someone will screw up your chain as often. >_>

[Romyro]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

We’ll look into this when we review the overall pet system

This could only be used for called beasts, but we will look into this

We will look into this when we review merit point adjustments.

but we will look into your suggestion.

We will look into this when reviewing pets.

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We will consider this when adding unique characteristics for each pet.

but we will look into this idea.

thats a lot of looking into...

I did however like the ‘Charm when you already have a pet’ idea. Even if it only just binds or gives slight enmity. I can think a few times were that would come in very handy. They allow the usage of Tame when you have a pet out. Which iirc will always fail if you have a pet (it’s been a while since I used it)

They might as well just come out and say - "you people don't skillchain anyway and haven't for three years, who the fuck cares if pets can?"

I would SC all-day everyday with my pet if it were possible.

[Bigfish]

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The concept of skillchains has a bad reputation. I'm still not sure why. It's kind of sad because its a fun mechanic. Oh well.

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

A buddy of mine and I used to level 1 SC all the time with Blade:Jin x2. In certain situations it didn't make much of an overall impact, but in Abyssea it was jacked up... or Limbus... or Nyzul Isle where your time is a concern and dealing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can was important. It definately helps.

[Armando]

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The concept of skillchains has a bad reputation. I'm still not sure why. It's kind of sad because its a fun mechanic. Oh well.

Skillchains and Magic Bursts used to be the bread and butter of EXP parties. At some point around ToAU people figured out it's not worth the trouble in an EXP setting.

Fighting an IT mob? You're liable to get resisted. Back in the day it didn't matter because you were also topping it all off with a big Magic Burst, but around ToAU people stopped inviting BLM to EXP anyway.

Plowing through Ts and VTs with melees on steroids? You run into TP waste issues. Unless you and your partner both go at 100 TP and Skillchain, one person will be waiting on the other and wasting TP. If the mob's already half dead you'll probably overkill it and you'll either have to hold off 'til the next mob and waste even more TP, or call off the skillchain altogether and have someone WS the mob in the face. Anyone else who uses WS will get in the way of your SC or vice-versa. Because most WS don't scale well with more TP, any TP over 100 that gets wasted means you're missing out on doing more WS, which means lost damage. Even if you break even, you're going through all the trouble of coordinating with multiple people when just spamming your WS at 100 TP would get you the same results.

If the mob isn't prone to resists (VT and below), you and your SC partner are closely sync'd in TP rate and there aren't many other people to interfere with you, skillchains are still useful. It's just that people have trouble breaking out of the mindset that surrounds the most popular scenarios (EXP, Abyssea, Endgame, etc.)

[Ketaru]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

I'm sure a certain new enemy with low defense, low HP, but reduced magic damage taken (not even to mention the ability to Return Magic) didn't help matters anyway. And if you wait to skillchain, you might get Feather Tickle'd and not WS at all.

But really, depending on setup, it happened long before that. Remember "roaming parties" and Arrow Burns?

[Bigfish]

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I remember when all that happened, and from that perspective it made sense not to do it grinding xp, but its like an entire generation just never learned the SC chart and it was just written off then and forever.

[Elwynn]

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Ah, the BST Dev post is up. I knew it wouldn't disappoint in disappointing!

No mention of being able to keep jug pets across zone changes?

Son, I am disappoint.

[cidbahamut]

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I remember when all that happened, and from that perspective it made sense not to do it grinding xp, but its like an entire generation just never learned the SC chart and it was just written off then and forever.

Pretty much.

I tried to get folks to do skillchains when I was new, but no one was ever willing to do it. Eventually I just gave up. It hasn't helped that no one's put together an updated version of the chart for all the new weaponskills that have come out since the level cap increase. Heck, I'm not sure all the skillchain properties of the weaponskills have even been fully documented.

[Squiggs]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Peeve: Full Pink Ninjas. I know it's easy to get and inexpensive, but there is better stuff that is just as easy to get. (Alcides' pieces, for example). It doesn't have to be the OMG BEST PIECE EVAR, just some effort, that's all I ask.