What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

[Taskmage]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Were you at Sobek last Saturday too?

Sunday.

[Bigfish]

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Fight in an area controlled by the beastmen.

My GoV grinding spots don't offer me the luxury of being that picky.

[Romyro]

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might be a dumb question but...do you have auto sort on?

[Squiggs]

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My GoV grinding spots don't offer me the luxury of being that picky

Understood.

[Bigfish]

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might be a dumb question but...do you have auto sort on?

Auto sort and quarter master, so the things just rain in to my inventory. I could just dump them I guess, but the compulsive in me says "No! Those things are worth money! Find a place to put them until you can sell or eat them!"

[Romyro]

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Horribly inefficient people who enjoy just wasting my damn time. Like I have nothing better to do then follow their horrible leadership.

I have this LS member who at times is just thorn in my side. A very nice person no doubt and has given A LOT to the shell (boss wins, +1/+2s, the good atmas…etc). Has even gone on a dynamis run or 2 to help me get coins.

Well, now I’m being asked to help out with an Emp weapon, which I have absolutely NO PROBLEM doing.

I do however; have an issue with his slow ass methods. First off…there’s this ‘no brewing’ rule he wants to follow. I can understand wanting to fight a NM for the challenge. I enjoy that as well. But after 4 or 5+ fights…Been there/done that and I just want the shit to be over with. I’ve got 1m+ cruor and nothing to spend it on. Pretty sure he's got upwards of 5m if not more. Get 3 or more pop sets and I’ll finish them in 5 minutes.

Sobek skins is one of the trials. Last night we had about 8 people (including a Whm and a War). Instead of doing the smart thing and building Amber/Azure/Pearl and cleaving Colobri (they don’t ruby)…he wants to try and claim Gutz every 10-15 minutes. Really?? I’m no mathematician but if you got 8 people and it takes 3 minutes to kill Gutz with a 10 minute repop…that’s like 2 hours. And that’s IF we get every claim.

So…I try to talk the group into cleaving and get some nice yet negative feed back from him. So I choose to go on my own and farm. One of the members followed me (because he ‘gets it’). In about 30 minutes both of us got Peiste AND lizard KIs…and we were killing 1 by 1 oppose to any type of cleaving. Had the war & whm come we’ve have killed 10x more mobs in the same amount of time. Think it’s safe to assume we’d have a lot more chests.

I also somehow takes him 5 minutes to pop stuff after everyone says ready. Seriously…we all say ‘/’ and he just runs circles around the ??? for a few minutes. So damn aggravating.

The day before that, we went to do 3 Isgebind (brew style) for a different member. Not sure if you ever farmed gold boxes in Ule…but I depop about 4 KIs in less than an hour when im trying to get fragments. But nooooo. Lets fight Kur with 4 people that have like…3/12 red procs. Then he tries to talk us into straight up fighting all 3. we’re all like fuck that…lets brew and move on. Then he managed to fuck up my brew on the 3rd Isgebind by circling around the ???. which resulted in us pretty much zombie-ing the damn thing for 30 minutes before we finally killed it.

Don’t even want to get into EE runs…it’s like a 2-3 day process if he leads…

[Neverslip]

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We have a bunch of BLU mages that CWB for KIs while others leech but are there to hold KIs so we do about 5-10 NM kills a night. Last night we did 3-4 Chloris and about 4-5 Glavoid. Then while most of the alliance is killing the NM there's always about 4-5 TE famers. It's pretty efficient. At this point we have no need for several +2 items... think one of them is Balance stones or something.

[Taskmage]

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We have a bunch of BLU mages that CWB for KIs while others leech but are there to hold KIs so we do about 5-10 NM kills a night. Last night we did 3-4 Chloris and about 4-5 Glavoid. Then while most of the alliance is killing the NM there's always about 4-5 TE famers. It's pretty efficient. At this point we have no need for several +2 items... think one of them is Balance stones or something.

^ This is the way to go.

[Neverslip]

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Yeah, I can't wait til I can CWB on BLU... make so much gil from drops and NPC'n crap... and can actually get the 'powerful items" you might want (refresh pins, Pdt/Mdt rings and so forth).

[Neverslip]

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Peeve:

Been doing Dyna rather regular after Abyssea which is pretty late for me. We tend to start at around 12-1230am so I'm already a bit worn on patience. Well, we go in and there is consistantly someone who no matter what me, the LS leader, or another say is always zerging the mobs when we were farming. I don't give a flying fuck if you have really wanted to use your SAM to zerg sh!t cuz your other job sucks at DD'n and SAM isn't wanted to in Aby... we need you to use {Too Weak} WSs to proc WS-mobs. We need you to hold your your WS back on the ones that are proc'd by magic and JA. What is so hard about his? While we attempt to proc, it's also nice to at least attempt to get a TH modifier on it. Zerging mobs is contrary to what Dynamis really is anymore aside from mega-bosses. Just because we are in a new zone doesn't mean we need to re-visit these simple guidelines every time either.

[cidbahamut]

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I think there's just a general frustration of people putting effort into maxing their damage output and then being told "You're killing stuff too fast. We can't procc in time".

It's really dumb to create a combat system that revolves around not defeating opponents.

[Neverslip]

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general frustration of people putting effort into maxing their damage output and then being told "You're killing stuff too fast. We can't procc in time".

I understand that... yet, people who put their ego over the good of the many are morons.

It's really dumb to create a combat system that revolves around not defeating opponents.

I don't really consider it part of a 'combat system'. I think it's more accurate to say it's part of a 'farming system'. You don't have to proc if you don't want. But if you want to get something worthwhile out of it, you do. I like it better than just hitting the mob and hoping. Least this way, one has a sense of control over the outcome. Want to test your mettle on a job and don't care about drops? Go solo something or join a cruor/xp alliance. Don't piss on a gameplan to get items for people who want them.

Also... people were complaining about how FFxi lost the sense of working together. Having to 'proc' mobs sure accomplishes seems to me like a throwback to that sense of 'working togetherness' so many people felt was lost forever.

[Yygdrasil]

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Also... people were complaining about how FFxi lost the sense of working together. Having to 'proc' mobs sure accomplishes seems to me like a throwback to that sense of 'working togetherness' so many people felt was lost forever.

Sure... I suppose it does make people work together again... but at what cost?

NIN
MNK
WHM
THF
BLU
BLM

These are now the only jobs people consider "worth playing". What about the other 14 jobs? They basically got s*** on.

I know that with the changes made to neo-dynamis... a lot more jobs are gaining the ability to proc... and yadda yadda... but honestly... the main focus of everyone is still Abyssea. If you dont have one of those 6 afformentioned jobs... you're not really "working together"... ever.

Even adding BLU to that list is VERY circumstantial. Unless you're trying to proc Yellow... there seems to always be a "better choice". I mean look at the recent Census results! What are the top 5 jobs? Exactly.

[Neverslip]

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Imo, that's a good point but different section of discussion, Yyg. Point is, people are working together towards a common goal. Someone whose actions make me think they believe :::: Ego > functionality :: or :: Me > others :::: is stupid (imo) and annoys the hell out of me.

Exclusion has always been a part of FFxi and is nothing new. I felt it first as a THF/war starting out trying desperately to get to lvl 30 so I could unlock NIN and getting rejected party after party. I felt it as someone who chose DNC as my first to 75 and getting 'lolDNC' every day I played. I feel it now cuz there are others that are preferred in my LS to do the duties w/ the same jobs as me. Circumstances have always excluded one job, preferred one over another, or preffered many over one. It has always been that if you want to play a job that is not looked upon as valuable, you need to prove why it would be a good addition. I've proved to my LS that I deserve to be brought "off the bench" and am just as capable as the "starters". I proved to my Dyna LS long ago that DNC was a pretty nice addition to a BLM party and the JA's DNC brought to the table were better than they thought. And every party that allowed my "gimp-ass" THF/war to join ended up saying to me that I was actually doing better than most THF/nin's cuz I understood there was more too THF than pulling like, say keeping the hate from the mages and on the tank.

I really wish SE had not limited what jobs can proc Abyssea NMs as much as they did... But, they did. As such, we players need to deal w/ it, yet still attempt to have fun working under the guidlines that help the "whole".

[Elwynn]

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Popping a poison potion before fighting Diabolos Prime for someone, kicking in auto-attack, then siccing my automaton on big-D. Then realizing 15 seconds later when he dropped Nightmare on us that the first thing Kenbishi did was cast Poisona on me.

Fortunately (if you can call it that), the person we were doing the fight for got disconnected, so it didn't matter whether we won or not.

Next time I'll go Valoredge/Stormwaker. It only goes up to Cure IV, but it doesn't cast debuffs, poisona, or even that MP-wasting Cure VI.