What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

[AfroButt]

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Sure this is a common problem in any MMO, but cannot stand when you have to spend 2 hours forming a party because you are missing just one tank or healer.

Todays pet peeve. Fighting off and barely killing a link, when another one show up and destroys your party.

Feels bad man

[cidbahamut]

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I have this sneaking suspicion that I'm getting in over my head with Red Mage.

Tonight I had my first party since I hit 41 and I'm already getting really stressed. This is probably not a good sign seeing as how I didn't even have that much to juggle with this party. I got off really easy, there was a Summoner main healing and no other mp pools in sight so it's not like I was being called on to refresh/haste/main-heal/enfeeble/dispel/nuke all at once. I guess my frustration is that I already felt really busy with that party just keeping enfeebles and refresh up, and I don't know how I would have been able to main-heal on top of all that. Toss in a Haste cycle and I'd probably just give up and head back to my moghouse.
Hopefully this is just a case of me being out of practice(it's been a few months since I partied on RDM) and it'll become easier in time.

I probably need to redo my macro layout at some point.

Ok, I'm done. I just needed to ramble a bit.

[Mezlo]

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You're just out of practice. One thing though, no need to nuke imo. When you have a main healer, Refresh > Haste > debuff. All you really need to do. It does get hectic trying to keep track of what wears and when, but you'll get the hang of it. When you main heal 60+, you'll find that if you are in a good party, really all you'll be doing is Refresh > Haste > Regen > with an occassional Cure III. But with pld's curing themselves for hate, and nin's tying to keep up shadows, regen becomes very handy...

[fairyoracle75]

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Mezlo is right. When they make you main heal you don't have to nuke. I found 55 + the focus is Refresh>Regen>Haste and Cure when needed. Depending on the mob you'll need to through out some enfeeble, a dispel or a -na spell.

[cidbahamut]

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I tend to feel like I'm slacking when I'm not firing off the odd nuke every few mobs. I figure as long as I'm still fine in the mp department and have taken care of the healing the enfeebling and the dispelling I might as well toss a nuke if there isn't going to be enough time for me to rest a tic of mp back. I can see how nuking would get dropped as you add a Refresh and Haste cycle though, that looks like it's crazy stressful on your mp pool.

No worries though, I'll get the hang of it eventually. In the meantime I need to go farming so I can update some gear and start working on putting together a Convert gearset. So much left to learn...

[fairyoracle75]

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I'm adding something I run across as RDM to pet peeve:

RDM guilt complex: The ability for the RDM to be made to feel guilt when they have to log by the other players in the party.

Last night, like so many times before, I was guilted into staying for 1 1/2 hours longer than I could so 2 people could level up. No RDM were seeking and first they made me stay while they sent tells to all the RDM not seeking. I was fighting falling asleep at the controls but they convinced me to stay until these 2 players leveled.

[cidbahamut]

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Yeah, I'm totally not looking forward to adding -na spells to the list of things I need to keep track of. Definitely going to go with /BLM for as long as I can get away with it.

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I'm adding something I run across as RDM to pet peeve:

RDM guilt complex: The ability for the RDM to be made to feel guilt when they have to log by the other players in the party.

Last night, like so many times before, I was guilted into staying for 1 1/2 hours longer than I could so 2 people could level up. No RDM were seeking and first they made me stay while they sent tells to all the RDM not seeking. I was fighting falling asleep at the controls but they convinced me to stay until these 2 players leveled.

How does someone guilt you into continuing to party when you're exhausted?
So far I've had pretty good luck by just giving the party a half hour's notice that I need to crash soon so I can get up for work the next day.

[fairyoracle75]

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Beilieve me when you have to main heal 50+ and take care of refresh and haste cycles you won't feel like your slacking. You're so busy, especially when you have a good pt that's constantly chaining, you won't hardly have time to think. You're the one stressing yourself out by requiring you add nukes in.

After 40 you'll have enough MP (good food and MP+ gear is available) you won't have to rest MP often if you don't try to nuke. You learn when and how to use MP between converts at that level you won't run out of MP often. Also you won't be able to nuke if in a colibri party or you'll kill everyone. The only time I need to rest is if I have a bad party that has hate jumping all over and I need to Cure a lot.

The thing about RDM is the role you are asked to take in parties evolves through out the game.

People guilt me when no other RDM are available in a main healing party with a lot of MP using ppl and gnerally a PLD tank. They guilt you by saying things like "I haven't had a good party like this in so long" and "I only have 1.2k left to level and I won't be able to get another party since no other RDM are available". With an MP heavy set up they need Refresh to make decent exp per hour and basically depend on you.

[cidbahamut]

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Also you won't be able to nuke if in a colibri party or you'll kill everyone.

You shouldn't tell me these things. I'm the kind of person who would be sorely tempted to do this if I'm partying with a bunch of idiots.

With an MP heavy set up they need Refresh to make decent exp per hour and basically depend on you.

My understanding is that people are refusing to form functional parties for decent exp in the hopes of forming a perfect party to achieve phenomenal exp, which is rather stupid.

As for being mp heavy, I'd be inclined to just tell people to stop bleeding all over the floor.

[Firewind]

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Yeah, I'm totally not looking forward to adding -na spells to the list of things I need to keep track of. Definitely going to go with /BLM for as long as I can get away with it.

If I'm ever leading a party and the RDM refuses to sub WHM or SCH when -na spells are needed for the camp I'm booting them and switching to COR/Mage. It's not hard to Buff, heal and -na spell the party at the same time... I do it all the time on WHM and COR/mage.

[cidbahamut]

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If I'm ever leading a party and the RDM refuses to sub WHM or SCH when -na spells are needed for the camp I'm booting them and switching to COR/Mage. It's not hard to Buff, heal and -na spell the party at the same time... I do it all the time on WHM and COR/mage.

I'm not saying I won't do it. I gave up on that long ago and leveled my WHM sub in preparation for the inevitability of it. I'd just prefer to come /BLM(and to camps where status ailments aren't an issue) and not have to add status ailments to the growing list of things I have to watch until I'm a little more comfortable with all the things I'm gonna be juggling. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind playing whack-a-mole with status ailments on my White Mage, but as a Red Mage my focus tends to be elsewhere. Usually I'm more focused on turning the opponent into a gibbering pile of status ailments and keeping it like that. I had way too many parties with Red Mages who never bothered renewing or even casting enfeebles, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna roll as nothing more than a refresh/haste/cure bot with a bottomless mp pool.

I think I'm rambling again.

I'll do the /WHM thing when I get good enough handling my current responsibilities and actually set up some macros to do it properly.

[Firewind]

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Trust me most pick up groups won't care about that and will complain anyway

Actually it's more annoying when SCHs won't help out with clearing status effects since they can just AoE -na the whole party. I have to use 2 JAs and two separate spells to do the same thing (Misery > Sacrifice > Solace > Esuna)

[cidbahamut]

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Most pick up groups also like to hunt things the party has no business touching for another 3-4 levels with their party configuration. I don't feel bad letting idiots die.

[hexx]

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I'm not saying I won't do it. I gave up on that long ago and leveled my WHM sub in preparation for the inevitability of it. I'd just prefer to come /BLM(and to camps where status ailments aren't an issue) and not have to add status ailments to the growing list of things I have to watch until I'm a little more comfortable with all the things I'm gonna be juggling. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind playing whack-a-mole with status ailments on my White Mage, but as a Red Mage my focus tends to be elsewhere. Usually I'm more focused on turning the opponent into a gibbering pile of status ailments and keeping it like that. I had way too many parties with Red Mages who never bothered renewing or even casting enfeebles, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna roll as nothing more than a refresh/haste/cure bot with a bottomless mp pool.

I think I'm rambling again.

I'll do the /WHM thing when I get good enough handling my current responsibilities and actually set up some macros to do it properly.

Problem with this is when you reach the Colibri camps, you riddling the Colibri with status ailments is only going to leave your tank (and possibly DDs) riddled with those same status ailments as well bro.

Honestly at that point, you're better off /whm and being the cure, haste, refresh whore that people want your RDM to be. Leave the enfeebling for endgame RDM

And Firewind, man, you must PT with some shitty as mages, I'm a level 57SCH and do a better job healing than most RDMs and WHM ive seen.

[Mhurron]

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And Firewind, man, you must PT with some shitty as mages, I'm a level 57SCH and do a better job healing than most RDMs and WHM ive seen.

Maybe that's because you party with some shitty mages. Guess how you could describe most of the player base.