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  • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

    Originally posted by Takelli View Post
    Get a beestinger with an enspell II and haste with haste gear. They can pump out the damage fairly fast.
    Uhh . . . I think that this was covered in another thread but, no, not unless you're fighting an Elemental. What people tend to forget about Red Mage damage is that it is not negligible, but merely sub-par (and that is as it should be, no less; we would be absurdly broken if we could compete with dedicated DDs, after all). They assume it's negligible, and then start making up asinine ways of getting damage out of a Red Mage, usually in the mindset of trying to Enspell-burn EXP mobs (good lord, no).

    Fact is, you'd produce better damage over time (and likely weaponskills with more than two digits of damage) just using a plain old higher-level weapon (like Gold Sword, for the medocre example I mentioned in the other thread, but obviously you'd ideally have something much better than that, as well) and just gearing themselves in the mindset of a regular DD, swapping gear out for spells and weaponskills as needed. You'll produce much more damage over time than just trying to Enspell an exp (or in fact, any non-Avesta) mob to death . . . it will still be sub-par damage, though, and a Red Mage's magical duties still come first. The most common real issue with Red Mages on the front line is the inability to multitask, and, in an attempt to melee mediocrely, mismanage magical musts.

    Cid hit the nail on the head when he said that a Red Mage that doesn't Enfeeble (against anything that's not lolibri) needs to find another job; whether or not they were healing I don't really care that much.
    Last edited by Yellow Mage; 11-22-2009, 07:17 PM.
    Originally posted by Armando
    No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
    Originally posted by Armando
    Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
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    GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

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    • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

      The idiot's idea of variety was to cast Regen along with his Cure II. It was pretty sad to watch. He wasn't even bothering with Dia. Even worse, he had made it to at least 41. It made me cry inside.

      Tonight's follow-up gripe on Black Mage: Waiting 3 hours for an invite and only getting one to a manaburn right as I'm logging out for the night.

      Oh well, at least I got some practice Sleep-nuking tonight.
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      • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

        Jungle parties can be great, it just takes a good setup and a puller who doesn't aggro the damn Smithy every 2 pulls. Leveling through there as PLD was awesoooome.
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        • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

          I find it even more distressing that the need to mention RDM meleeing vs main healing was even brought up. All Cidbahamut mentioned was that he disliked RDMs who don't enfeeble. The whole frontline vs backline thing has become so deeply embedded in discussions about RDM. It's actually a bit sad that one can't say something about RDMs not casting without somebody immediately interpreting this as an attack on RDM's ability to melee, which has actually been given some finality in the last year.
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          • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

            Originally posted by Ketaru View Post
            I find it even more distressing that the need to mention RDM meleeing vs main healing was even brought up. All Cidbahamut mentioned was that he disliked RDMs who don't enfeeble.
            Hey, don't look at me. I was just responding to the guy who brought it up out of nowhere, and that only because he was suggesting that Red Mages do something rather absurd for damage, anyway.
            Originally posted by Armando
            No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
            Originally posted by Armando
            Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
            Originally posted by Taskmage
            GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

            REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

            GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

            THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
            Originally posted by Taskmage
            However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
            Matthew 16:15

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            • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

              I know you were. I was specifically referring to Takeli's post. Cidbahamut didn't say anything about RDM's ability or inability to melee. Hell, he didn't even say RDM is only a main healer.
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              • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                For the record he wasn't meleeing.
                He was just acting as a straight up cure-bot. No enfeebles, no nukes, no buffs, no nothing. Just Cures and Regen the whole time.

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                Oh yeah, my biggest gripe from this weekend:

                Trying to get people to do Garrison for two weeks with absolutely no success. I'm about ready to just give up and shout for a Garrison linkshell in Whitegate until they call the GMs on me.
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                • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                  Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post
                  shout for a Garrison linkshell
                  Those exist?
                  I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are.

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                  • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                    Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                    Those exist?
                    I thought Tak said he made one a while back, but no they probably don't exist on my server.
                    At this point I'm just thoroughly frustrated with not being able to do any mid-game stuff.
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                    • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                      Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post
                      I'm about ready to just give up and shout for a Garrison linkshell in Whitegate until they call the GMs on me.
                      You might be shouting for a long time. I don't even know if Garrison linkshells still exist. I want to see a ECO-WAR shell still in existance .
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                      • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                        I've done Garrison a total of 1 time in my old social. It's seriously not as common at least on Hades just cause it's so easy to level up faster now that people can quickly get to levels where they can do other events like BCNM's, hell you can get together and do 50-60 cap assaults and it'd honestly be easier to get together than a proper Garrison.
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                        • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                          Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post
                          I thought Tak said he made one a while back, but no they probably don't exist on my server.
                          At this point I'm just thoroughly frustrated with not being able to do any mid-game stuff.
                          I did start one up, but it didn't last too long. Not many people wanted to gather the items needed for it, and no one really want to spend more than an hour away from gridning to 75 to do dynamis, and Nyzul Isle. There are still a few people willing to do it, but its a hassle to scheduale runs, and make sure people are famring the items if they wish to do more than one a week, or so.

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                          • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                            Qufim. Pond.
                            I've run out of words to describe the experience.
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                            • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                              Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post
                              Qufim. Pond.
                              I've run out of words to describe the experience.
                              Is that before or after the Banshees show up.
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                              Originally posted by Aksannyi
                              "Hello! 100+3 Leathercrafting, your materials, 5k! Mention code LTH74 for a special discount!" - they'd get blisted by everyone they sent that to.
                              Originally posted by Solymir
                              What do you have against Ants? Is iVirus some new Apple product?

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                              • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                                I don't understand why you would party there after the Goblin Bounty Hunters were added. Unless you're the type of party that can't get anything done without a PL.

                                Generally, i just hate Qufim after Level Sync was added.
                                I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are.

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