What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

[Murphie]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Proc stands for process. LRN2NOTABBREVIATE

Does it? Does it.

Also, it sounds douchey. Then again: Yyg.

[Yygdrasil]

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Does it? Does it.

Also, it sounds douchey. Then again: Yyg.

Witty comeback

[Murphie]

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I'm tired.

[Firewind]

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Oh Dear God Why.

Saying "Windhurst" on say a youtube video, Vent or a podcast isn't that bad as there are lots of real life place names like that so it might just be due to habit.

There's still no excuse for saying "Ny-ee-zul Isle" though as I remember someone saying in, I think it was a Limit Break Radio Podcast once.

[Yellow Mage]

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Saying "Windhurst" on say a youtube video, Vent or a podcast isn't that bad as there are lots of real life place names like that so it might just be due to habit.

There's still no excuse for saying "Ny-ee-zul Isle" though as I remember someone saying in, I think it was a Limit Break Radio Podcast once.

They mispronounced more things than I can reasonably remember, though admittedly, given the nature of the fantasy genre, a lot of it they can be forgiven for. Some of it it just plain ear-grinding, though.

I don't think a single thing that anybody has said has ever ticked me off more than "mEE-lEE." Protip: if you're there as a guest, and you're going to advocate for melee RDMs (Hyrist), freaking PRONOUNCE THE WORD CORRECTLY.

Add: Also, Quote Selected now seems to be broken in Firefox 8. Just putting that out there.

[Ketaru]

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6 hours amber farming in Abyssea-Konschtat and nothing to show for it. Not even a full Key Item pop set for either of the NMs...

[cidbahamut]

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Deelgeed.

What do you mean I'm petrified with Fanatic's drink on and no TP moves used? ARGLE BLARG!

[Yygdrasil]

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Camping NMs for Empy trials. This is my peeve. Armageddon shall be my final Empy... but for serious... 1-3 hour repop? what kind of a window is that?

Time... wasted.

[Ketaru]

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Ah, the official forums: where you embolden, italicize, underline, and all-caps the psuedo-logical operator "dose not."

Seriously, I have to hand it to this generation's youth. They're going to have to grow up knowing how to decipher incomprehensible English. I'm looking at the SAM forum right now and there's a guy in there:

What are you guys saying they Ben getting attention lol. You have o get a masamune to keep up with the other jobs that take advantage of RR. Then you must know what to do with it to be better. So Sam is not over power. It just gives Sam a option to use the weapon ppl know Sam to use which is bow. If all other jobs can take advantage of RR why can't we. I'm not sad about RR or anyother atma Sam can't take advantage of. Through all the updates I've kept my Sam fully upgraded 90 emp and all awaiting the 95 version. I'm doing mnk hands emp but I rather do the bow and put it on Sam but I can't. I remimber the days seeing relic GK and Bow and the only thing I can think of is that Sam is a real SAM. I want to have that in emp. Why wouldn't y'all?

Jeezus! I know it seems uppity to be worried about spelling and grammar and all that old timer stuff. But seriously, I try to stick to one guideline: write as if you want people to take the time to read it.

[Armando]

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Are you kidding? Some of the sagest advice I've ever seen came from a combination of mangled English and Caps Lock interspersed with minor NBA references. Circa 2004:

LOLOLOL HEY RICO GUY YOU SO FUNNY YOU MAKE BIG BEN GIGGLES INSIDE GIGGGLGGLGGLGLGEL

ANYWAY BIG BEN THINK LIKE THIS ITS LIKE HEY GUYS WHY BE RACIST?? RACISM HURTS EVERYBODY ON INSIDE MAKE BIG BEN SADFACE ITS ALL ABOUT SKILLS CUZ WHEN BIG BEN HAD TO WORK ON FARM AS CHILD BEN HAD TO MAKE FARMING PT MADE OF ASIAN MAN BLACK MAN(THATS ME) MEXICAN MAN CHECHOSLOVAKIAN MAN AND IT WAS BEST FARMING PT EVER CAUSE ALL MEN HAD HQ SHOVELS AND TRACTORS AND KNOW HOW TO PLAY SO FARMING WAS QUITE GOOD

SO BIG BEN COME TO CONCLUSION RACIST IS A NO, EVERYBODY EQUALITY NAY MEAN DAWGGGGG??? WHAT UP BLOOOD WHAT UP BLOOD WHAT UP GANGSTAAAAAAAAA

LOLOLOL /COMFORT THF
BIG BEN SAY DONT WORRY ITS OK DANCINNG EDGES IS BETTER THAN GUILTOTOTSLIENS ON INTERCILRBLY TOUGH MONSTERS SO DONT CRY /HAPPY OK MOST TIME DANCINGS EDGES DO 700++ DAMAGES AND GU ILOOTINE NOT DO SO MUCH ON INCRTOTOUGHS IT MAKE BIG BEN SAD FACE =(((( CAUSE WORK SO HARD FOR GUILOTTIEN AND STILL NOT AS GOOD AS THF =((((99

OH AND RPECLISA THAT WONT WORK CAUSE SPINGSLSASH IS FRAGMENTATION PROPERTY AND SHARKBITE IS FRAGMENATION PROERPTERY SO FRAMG TO RFRAGM DOESNT WORK IT MUST BE FUSION AND FRAGMNETION IN NBA PLAYOFFS RASHEED WALLACE AWS FUSION AND BIG BEN WAS FRAMGNETATION AND WE MAKE CRAZY LIGHT SKILLCHAIN ONTO LAKERS FACES WHAT NOW LAKERS???? WHAT NOW??? IM CHAMPIONS NOW THATS WHAT

[Feba]

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that quote shows some grammatical errors that would lead me to believe the writer might not be a native speaker of English.

Also, I don't know why, but for some reason a lot of English learners I know use abbreviations like 'u' and 'ppl' even more than lazy Americans.


Anyway, I mean, the stupid kids do need to write in order to get better; frankly, I'd be surprised if most peoples' writing hasn't always been this terrible, but it's just that now we're broadcasting it everywhere. The semi-literate wouldn't have had much reason to be writing their friends notes with the frequency we post online nowadays. Writing is something that you don't just start doing-- look at what you were writing even five years ago. Hell, http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/gen....refugees.html ; five years ago, stuff from many people that were actually around back then. Looking at things I wrote before around 2004 is just embarrassing-- not for any opinions in it, but for how bad the quality of writing was before I had spent any significant time actually putting pen to paper (or fingers to keyboard, as the times are). After 2004, I started playing FFXI (writing constantly in chat, and more importantly being an argumentative dick on forums); edited Wikipedia for a time, and other such projects.

[cidbahamut]

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Reading the official forums makes me want to strangle people. Specifically other Red Mages.

[Ketaru]

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Another bemoaning of LS death, but you really do lose sight of what the average player in this game is like when you're around decent players for long enough.

I joined one that a lot of the old defected members left to (this was after the first LS-leader-abandons-Empyrean-static-after-getting-his-Kannagi one). And some of their abilities to play is...um...

Somebody asked for help on Sedna so I went to go assist. And it wiped. And the WHM didn't have Shellra V. And cast Protectra III at level 93. I would've been better off coming BST and using Fatso Fargann and telling the rest of them to just not do anything.

Reading the official forums makes me want to strangle people. Specifically other Red Mages.

I'm reading stuff by Saevel and Manaking right now. I don't know how you tolerate conversing with them.

Third Point: Still mourning Cloudsplitter. If Rampage does 1000 damage (as a benchmark for comparison), Primal Rend will do about 750. And Cloudsplitter will do about 550. And this is before all that Atma stuff comes into play. I hate life...

[cidbahamut]

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I'm reading stuff by Saevel and Manaking right now. I don't know how you tolerate conversing with them.

Honestly, I can't. After it reaches a certain threshold I end up either lashing out or I walk away and wait for Greatguardian to come in and lay down some sensibility, although it never seems to take.

The line of reasoning some of those folks use is more infuriating than whatever it is they're trying to argue for or against. It's gotten to the point where I no longer care at all about whether the posters are pro-melee, anti-melee or pro-moose-wielding. I just want to punch the idiots who try to build their argument on faulty reasoning and grossly misleading rhetoric.

Saevel in particular needs to crawl in a hole and die. The guy adds nothing but misdirection and misrepresentation to every conversation he enters.

edit: Is cloudsplitter an elemental WS?

[Ketaru]

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Is cloudsplitter an elemental WS?

Yes. Before I even got it, I looked up the WSs to do a bit of a side by side comparison

Primal Rend

• Modifiers: CHR:30%

• Damage Multipliers by TP:

100%TP
4.0

Cloudsplitter

• Modifiers: STR:40% MND:40%

• Damage Multipliers by TP:

100%TP
3.75

Now, I'm not one of those math people (Hi, Armando!). But taking a quick look at that, a few things jumped out at me. Cloudsplitter has a lower Damage Multiplier at 100 TP than Primal Rend does. And it's damage modifiers are attributes that BST does not excel at vs one that it has the best of. So, in truth, the numbers I've been seeing don't surprise me. But it's still extremely disappointing given the kind of numbers other Empyrean weaponskills are capable of pulling off. Including Wildfire, the other elemental weaponskill that immediately comes to mind.

Wildfire

• Modifiers: AGI:60%

• Damage Multipliers by TP:

100%TP
5.5