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  • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

    Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
    Joyeuse
    Damage Per Second: 9.38
    TP Per Hit: 6%
    Occasionally (read: a whole bunch of times) attacks twice.
    Damage: Piercing
    -----------------------------------------
    IGNORING Almace

    Khanda +2 (Damage 29+19 Delay 252+12)
    Damage Per Second: 10.91
    Occasionally Attacks Twice

    Khanda +2 (Damage 29+26 Delay 252)
    Damage Per Second 13.10
    Double Attack +10

    Or there is

    Shamshir +2 (Damage 54 Delay 230)
    Damage Per Second: 14.09
    STR +9 Attack +20

    In short any number of magian weapons out class Joyeuse, not just Almace. The DPS for the two Khandas is not taking into account multiple hits, because I'm lazy. Joyeuse has a higher DPS if they never attack more then once.
    Sadly for COR, neither Shamshir or Khanda can be wielded by them.


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    • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

      Magian Swords are PLD RDM and BLU only. CORs can't use it.
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      • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

        /jealous


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        • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

          Originally posted by Murphie View Post
          I can see where having a level 70 sword you can use before Almace or other OAT swords would be useless.

          OH WAIT EVERYONE JUST LEECHES SO HAHA MURPHIE AND YOUR STUPID UNDERLEVELED GEAR REQUESTS
          Because, of course, before everyone had a Joyeuse when they hit 70 on their first job. You totally didn't wait until 75 and get some help, using a different sword the whole time.

          Yes I suppose you could get one or two lvl 90's to get it for you, but then again, weren't you just peeving about that.
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          • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

            I remember reading that the Khandas didn't proc nearly as often as Joyeuse. Do you know if there's any hard data on the proc rates for the OAT one?

            ---------- Post added at 04:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:46 PM ----------

            Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
            Because, of course, before everyone had a Joyeuse when they hit 70 on their first job.
            I did. You ?
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            • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

              Originally posted by Ketaru View Post
              Magian Swords are PLD RDM and BLU only. CORs can't use it.
              No one plays COR anyway.
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              • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                Because, of course, before everyone had a Joyeuse when they hit 70 on their first job. You totally didn't wait until 75 and get some help, using a different sword the whole time.

                Yes I suppose you could get one or two lvl 90's to get it for you, but then again, weren't you just peeving about that.
                I can't even use it on BLU. But for future jobs it'd be nice. I imagine a lot of people would enjoy being able to ding into a Joytoy at 70.

                EDIT: Also, my peeve was being told to just throw a couple of 90s at everything. Not actually having help with things.

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                • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                  Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post
                  I remember reading that the Khandas didn't proc nearly as often as Joyeuse. Do you know if there's any hard data on the proc rates for the OAT one?[COLOR="Silver"]
                  No I don't. But like I said, Joyeuse only has higher DPS if they never attack more then once in a round, and that Shamshir always has higher DPS.
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                  • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                    Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post
                    Other than Almace, what would be the chase item for swordsman?
                    Badelaire +1/+2. >.>

                    "Empyrean WSes are overpowered" references aside, there is still the point that the Khanda is a strict upgrade from the Joyeuse (and if your job isn't RDM/PLD/BLU, you could even get an even better upgrade for your weapon of choice, like the Parazonium Dagger, for example). As a Red Mage, if you wanted, you could make a 2-4 times build for spamming Enspells I and Sanguine Blade (proper sub required, of course, but it's not like Dual Wield would help you with this, anyway), without even needing to do VNMs or anything like that.

                    EDIT: And of course, everybody beats me to it.

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                    • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?


                      Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                      No one plays COR anyway.


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                      • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                        Yeah, but Shamshir is lame and unfashionable.
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                          • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                            Joy is pretty good for a COR as long as they consider it as a fast off-hand TP dagger.

                            They will WS using their guns when single wielding anyway.
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                            • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                              Originally posted by Murphie View Post
                              I am very surprised to read that level 90 swords outclass a level 70 one.
                              Unless you are never going to do an Abyssea party for EXP, the time between 70 and 90 is very narrow.

                              Go get it, I'll even help. All I'm saying is I'm surprised anyone does, given the now short period of time it isn't eclipsed, the up to 16 hours waiting for it, 8 of them Charby could spawn at any time, and the time needed to do a magian trial after that.

                              And no one plays COR so who cares about them, I'm saying that too.
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                              • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                                Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post
                                Yeah, but Shamshir is lame and unfashionable.
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