What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

[Ketaru]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Not so much a pet peeve of Final Fantasy XI so much as it is a certain detractor of the game.

I enjoyed Final Fantasy XII and thought I'd go around seeing what kind of opinions people have of it. What I walk away with is what funny, curious people Final Fantasy fans are. They're like a religion all on their own, verging on the conservative side.

They see Nobuo Uematsu composing the music for XIV and act as if it's some great return to tradition. He's the God, the Alpha, and the Omega, the supreme composer of video game music. To hell with that X, XI, XII, and XIII crap where where they let go of the simplistic, whistle-friendly, pop sensible stuff.

They have asinine opinions like "FFXI was the worst game in the series because I hate online games" (pretty much verbatim). Never mind that, with Final Fantasy XI being an online game, and giving Final Fantasy XII MMO flair to it, they created what I just call short of living, breathing, dynamic worlds complete with histories that go beyond the scope of the main characters.

I won't say I would enjoy Final Fantasy XIII; it looks too silly to me. But the way some people think the series made disastrous, practically immoral, departures from "traditions" post IX is the funniest thing I've ever heard and I can't wait to see what SquareEnix does to stick it to 'em next.

Hint: Despite the fact people hold some of the older games as Paragons of Final Fantasy Excellence, there actually are people who dislike key components of the games people hold so dear. They decry that X and XII allow for too much character customizing. But they neglect to mention is was VII that started this. They whine about how the series is becoming too sequel/franchise oriented. But once again, VII: guilty.

[Aksannyi]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Kind of peeved that playing this free MMO I've been immersing myself in is tempting me to start over in XI.

But then I think about going through getting rank 10 in all nations again, finishing G1-G5 again, doing CoP again, doing ToAU again, getting myself geared again (no small feat, I don't settle for "acceptable" gear), getting Dynamis clears and gear again, starting Salvage again, working on Assault points again, climbing Nyzul again ... and then doing all the new crap with the level cap just to catch myself up to everyone else?

Yeah, I uh ... I don't fucking think so.

So I guess my peeve is being tempted (damn game, get your fucking hooks out of me already) and knowing that it's just too much damn work to get back to where I want to go. I wouldn't rejoin my old ls (some were mad when I quit, fuck all that drama) so I wouldn't really have any friends to help me out with this stuff and PL me or whatnot, so really, the prospect of doing all of that stuff in either pick-ups or solo is daunting.

[Ketaru]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

finishing G1-G5 again

G1-G7*

[Aksannyi]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Yeah, but I put that afterthought about the new level cap, which kind of includes that.

And just the thought of getting to where I was is enough to turn me off to ever starting that game over again. Aksannyi was pretty pimp.

[ShepardG]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

But then I think about going through getting rank 10 in all nations again, finishing G1-G5 again, doing CoP again, doing ToAU again, getting myself geared again (no small feat, I don't settle for "acceptable" gear), getting Dynamis clears and gear again, starting Salvage again, working on Assault points again, climbing Nyzul again ... and then doing all the new crap with the level cap just to catch myself up to everyone else?

Buy an account .... /shrug

You can get a nicely geared account with 5-10 jobs 75+ with captain rank/finished nyzul/etc. for around 400 bucks sometimes cheaper.

(if you think this is wrong please don't flip out on me)

[Aksannyi]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Oh, nah, I was in the annals of endgame - botting, bought accounts, bought relics, etc. Doesn't bother me at all, I just don't have the extra cash to buy an account right now since I lost my job. :/

I'll admit it's something I hadn't considered. Though I'm still not sure I want to get sucked in for another few years. Lol.

[ShepardG]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Funnie thing is, I love the new way 11 is, but If I miss something cause i had RL stuff, or i was sleepy, or just wanted to do seomthing else, it's not a big deal.

I didn't even level my corsair (which, for the LS is my main along with DNC) I just came to events as an 80 and litterly after 3-4 runs I was 85 with all kinds of neat gear that people already had or didn't want/need.

[Firewind]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Not so much a pet peeve of Final Fantasy XI so much as it is a certain detractor of the game.

I enjoyed Final Fantasy XII and thought I'd go around seeing what kind of opinions people have of it. What I walk away with is what funny, curious people Final Fantasy fans are. They're like a religion all on their own, verging on the conservative side.

They see Nobuo Uematsu composing the music for XIV and act as if it's some great return to tradition. He's the God, the Alpha, and the Omega, the supreme composer of video game music. To hell with that X, XI, XII, and XIII crap where where they let go of the simplistic, whistle-friendly, pop sensible stuff.

They have asinine opinions like "FFXI was the worst game in the series because I hate online games" (pretty much verbatim). Never mind that, with Final Fantasy XI being an online game, and giving Final Fantasy XII MMO flair to it, they created what I just call short of living, breathing, dynamic worlds complete with histories that go beyond the scope of the main characters.

I won't say I would enjoy Final Fantasy XIII; it looks too silly to me. But the way some people think the series made disastrous, practically immoral, departures from "traditions" post IX is the funniest thing I've ever heard and I can't wait to see what SquareEnix does to stick it to 'em next.

Hint: Despite the fact people hold some of the older games as Paragons of Final Fantasy Excellence, there actually are people who dislike key components of the games people hold so dear. They decry that X and XII allow for too much character customizing. But they neglect to mention is was VII that started this. They whine about how the series is becoming too sequel/franchise oriented. But once again, VII: guilty.

It was actually FFV that started customisation. Well FFII did it even earlier but the way of doing it was so idiotic it made an otherwise great game a bit of a chore to play to say the least.

Honestly Final Fantasy fans are idiots in general. I see ten main groups (in order of how obnoxious they are).

1. Final Fantasy VII Fanboys.
2. Final Fantasy VI Fanboys.
3. "Anything after [insert favourite FF game] sucks" Fanboys.
4. Yaoi Fangirls. Fanfiction Writers Yaoi Fangirls
5. The "The latest FF game sucks but the one before it is now suddenly acceptable as a Final Fantasy game" trolls.
6. Dragon Quest/Shin Megami Tensei Trolls who still buy and play the games they claim to hate. EDIT: going to lump in Western RPG fanboys who also buy FF games to complain about them into this lot as well.
7. Final Fantasy IV Fanboys.
8. People who claim to like the series as a whole but the entire series except their favourites suck.
9. People who like the series as a whole but tend to stick with playing their favourites who also can't keep out of the flame wars.
10. People who like the series as a whole but tend to stick with playing their favourites who are smart enough not to bother with the flame wars.

[Raydeus]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

In before Yellow Mage gets pissed because people are rambling off-topic in a very specific FFXI thread.

Buy an account .... /shrug

You can get a nicely geared account with 5-10 jobs 75+ with captain rank/finished nyzul/etc. for around 400 bucks sometimes cheaper.

(if you think this is wrong please don't flip out on me)

Peeve in XI: Fucking RMT supporters.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

In before Yellow Mage gets pissed because people are rambling off-topic in a very specific FFXI thread.

?

Peeve in XI: Fucking RMT supporters.

This, tho.

[Romyro]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

People who like the series as a whole but tend to stick with playing their favourites who are smart enough not to bother with the flame wars.

i think this is me...that good or bad?

[Aksannyi]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

The RMT such as the Chinese gil farmers and such are not the RMT of which we are speaking. And certainly not the type who have ruined the in-game economy. Some of the places you can buy a character are more reputable than most, but you do not have to go through the evil IGE or the account haXorz to get an account that someone legitimately does not want. There is a distinction, however slight, although you'll undoubtedly argue that RMT is RMT, so ... whatevs.

Either way, I wouldn't ever support a company like IGE. I would probably speak to some old friends to find if any of them had an account they'd be willing to part with.

The whole thing is moot, though, since I have no money to spend.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Honestly Final Fantasy fans are idiots in general.

Personally, I think people that call a group of people idiots based on their limited knowledge should remember the saying "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones."

[KingOfZeal]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Slightly off-topic: Has anyone noticed the spam tells have all but stopped? I've left my bazaar mule on the last two weeks without chatmon (which will filter out EVERY incoming tell) and I think I've gotten one tell.

[Elwynn]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

People who won't pay fucking attention in Nyzul.

Had a 60+ run, I needed 66+, most of us had 3 tags.

In TWO of the runs, someone wasn't paying attention and went up on the 5th floor. The first time we had like 10 minutes left. The second time everyone should have learned the lesson. So we lost the 70-75 run because someone was a fucking moron. It's one thing to lose a Nyzul run because you got bullshit floors. It's another thing entirely to lose it to an idiot who is sleeping at the rune.

And if you're standing at the rune you have even less of an excuse because you see the floor in the completion message and don't have a bunch of spam in your chat log that you have to dig through. Too bad they didn't make it name who hit the rune.

It's still not as annoying as the guy who exited on 3 after asking "exit?" and seeing someone saying "yes" in response to someone else's question... with a Werebuster in the treasure pool... a Werebuster that I had been wanting for well over a fucking year.

EDIT: and yeah, no spam tells for like two weeks now... did they stop the free trial again or what?