What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

[Aksannyi]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Slow ass motherfucking parties where nothing happens for minutes at a time.

PULL ALREADY.

Nevermind. DON'T PULL IF THERE ARE TWO BATS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

Thanks for the wipe man.

[Taermus]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Slow ass motherfucking parties where nothing happens for minutes at a time.

PULL ALREADY.

Nevermind. DON'T PULL IF THERE ARE TWO BATS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

Thanks for the wipe man.

This is why I really hate pulling. Parties who expect you to pull mobs out of your ass. I always seem to run into mating season for linkers, too.

[Aksannyi]

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I pull way better on Bard than this guy, but he didn't want me to pull. And it wasn't that there weren't any mobs, the guy was just AFKing during fights then coming back 5 minutes later like, "Oh, time to pull." And then he'd pull a link.

Garlaige Citadel isn't exactly teeming with parties anymore. It wasn't a matter of the guy not having anything to pull, but us getting 2k/hr because he was a dumbass.

Also, maybe it's just that I've been playing this so long, but I know when NOT to pull a mob because it will link. Sometimes, one pops right as you hit the pull macro, that's cool. But two mobs within a certain distance of each other will always link. You should know this buy 30.

[Queen Uma]

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People who think they are the best DD simply because they're the first to die or they bite the dust more than others during an event. Said people who then claim parsers lie when they're shown to be at the bottom of the damage list. Funny how others manage to put out far more damage because they're not dead/weakened all the time isn't it?

[Neverslip]

Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

Slow ass motherfucking parties where nothing happens for minutes at a time.

PULL ALREADY.

Nevermind. DON'T PULL IF THERE ARE TWO BATS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

Thanks for the wipe man.

Totally agree... I've been in a lot of parties lately where the puller stands there with thumb up firmly planted between their cheeks... Do they have a "I must see the mob die fetish" ?? I started my time as a Thf, my buddy who showed me the ropes turned me into a party slave driver whenever I'm puller.

Tho this leads me into a PEEVE of my own. One I've been meaning to write about for a bit now...

Dancer was given a frisbee AF to nerf us >imHo< It was NOT to make us goddamn pullers for experience/merit parties for the rest of our days.

NEWS FLASH !!!

Dancer's work off TP. Beating the last TP outta that last 15-25% of the mob's HP is a lot of TP, especially if we're landing Steps to Reverse Flourish. Early levels - no worries, I'll pull... It's not that I hate pulling, but post like Lvl 50-60, Dnc has a ton of macros we're pumping out to heal the party and make sure the LolNin tank isn't biting the dirt from the LolWhm spacing off from boredom, or LolRdm trying to sneak a few melee in while people aren't lookin...

You want me to heal the damn party, I'll heal, "step" debuff, keep Haste Samba up, and blink tank when necessary... I was born to do it. More than happy to do my job. If you want me to chain mobs and do all the aforementioned duties...? Well, don't cry about wiping the ground with your face when the mobs we're fighting have the potential to hit ya for 75-150% of your HP... oh, and your instant non-interruptable Curing Waltz IV is halfway to hell and gone running from the previous mob's pissed off older sister that you SCREAMED at me to play frisbee with... wow .. now our party setup is

I'd always harbored these feelings deep within but being in a 70+ party the other day really made it clear... I now make sure to ask the invitations I get post Lvl 40 Synch... "got a puller?" Cuz quite frankly, I'd rather be bored to all hell hitting a wall and pwning campaign mobs than deal with the headache and stress of pulling while trying to do the jobS Dancer was constructed specifically to perform.

[Ellipses]

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I've run into a pretty heavy patch of frustration lately.

It's not really any one thing, except maybe lack of time. December and January were both pretty busy, so I missed a lot of times that I'd normally be playing, and the last couple weeks, I've had to cut thing shorter than normal even when I do play.

So I've kind of stalled out, and BLU and BRD are both absolutely creeping upward; I haven't had the time to dedicate to parties, so I've been soloing BRD with my NPC, which is of course, pure torture.

Finances are also problematic. I've been working on leveling cooking and alchemy, but the recipes I've been using don't bring in big numbers. I've got 400k now, so I might be able to afford Utsu: Ni, but the price on that has been jumping lately.

My linkshell is somewhat barren most of the time that I've been on, too. The leader is trying to get people involved and doing things, but most of the time everyone is off just doing their own thing. Which is fine, and I'm not in any kind of position to complain about people being quiet (I'm extremely quiet myself most of the time).

Of course, I'm doing part of this to myself. I could ditch BLU and BRD for now and start on DRG. Get that up, then switch back and forth between DRG and DNC until I had some real progress to show. But I'm determined to finish those last two subs before I pick up a polearm.

Things should start looking up a little now that our social schedule seems to be getting back to normal, so it'll just be a matter of slogging through. At least I hope so. This is about how I felt the last time I closed down my content IDs, so I'm starting to lean in that direction.

[Solymir]

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My linkshell is somewhat barren most of the time that I've been on, too. The leader is trying to get people involved and doing things, but most of the time everyone is off just doing their own thing. Which is fine, and I'm not in any kind of position to complain about people being quiet (I'm extremely quiet myself most of the time).

Let me know if you want to try a different ls. We're not a large group, and we are only a social shell, but we like each other. You can contact me in-game most nights/weekends or send me a PM here.

[cloverest]

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I hate not really feeling like I have the time/energy to devote to parties. They can be exhausting, and I'm always paranoid I'm going to do something wrong and get my party killed, or that the leader's going to be a moron, or that nobody will be lfg and we'll have to sit around for a long time (and then right before someone new arrives, everyone wants to op warp back home to check auctions or get new gear, and at least one person will suddenly have to go, and then we start the process all over again), or the whm will try to pull or melee, or we have to wait for a raise to come along on the boat from Mhaura from someone's linkshell... Argh!

Every linkshell I've been in since I started playing has broken up due to drama or never had more than 4-5 members, most of whom went their separate ways/quit the game. Having a stable group of people to party with would be ideal. Just don't know that it's something I'm going to be able to achieve.

[Mezlo]

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Having a stable group of people to party with would be ideal. Just don't know that it's something I'm going to be able to achieve.

The only way you can achieve this is by forming a "static" party. Get a group of poeple from your LS to agree upon set jobs and set day and nights to log on and party together. I did this 4 years ago and my static is still together. Now people have come and left, but we are still 6 strong and continue to meet every Tuesday at 6pm. when you can get something like this, it's alot of fun. You become basically like a family. now this is tough to setup because of trying to get people that everyone likes and then find a day and time they can consistantly login and party. Consistantly is the key work here. It sucks when 5 peeps login, one person doesn't... With level sync, it does allow the 5 peeps to party without the one missing without fear of an experience point gap, but... Still sucks.

Other than a static party, you just need to suck it up and stick your lfg flag up. Some pt's will suck and some will rock. It's the bad ones that make the good ones even that much better and something to look forward to. even in the bad ones though, alot can be learned. And seriously, worst case scenario, you stop having fun, turn the damn thing off and go do something you do find fun!

[Firewind]

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Rant for the day: people who think they can tell me how to play my job and have no idea how to play their own.

The following happened some time Sunday morning. I forgot when but it was close to noon GMT.

It all started with a bit of drama in a sync party in Qufim. I was on my COR synced down to 21. Party was COR, SMN, BLM, WAR, DRG, SAM. For come reason none of them were willing to pull despite the WAR having Acid Bolts and the party having a SMN and DRG capable of carby pulling and jump pulling respectively. The conversation went something like this:

Me: Well I don't have anything decent to pull with. I have Lv22 bullets but my dagger will do more damage until the WAR levels due to the sync cap.
DRG: But I'm a Taru, I can't pull.
Me: I'm /RNG. The BLM will take hits better than me. Doesn't the WAR have Bloody Bolts?
WAR: I'm tanking
Me: And I'm having to waste bullets pulling with a 600 delay weapon when there are 3 other parties here. That and when I'm out pulling I won't be able to keep buffs up all the time
DRG: Then you're a bad COR
Me: Why? because I can't claim anything before it's voked off me?
DRG: No because you're refusing to shoot
Me: I'm /RNG and I have a gun and ammo equipped. Why wouldn't I be shooting?
DRG: Well you just said there's no point in shooting
Me: No I said my bullets will do next to no damage until the WAR dings in about 2k
DRG: Well you should have brought bronze bullets then
Me: Bronze bullets suck, I might as well be throwing darts for TP. All I'm saying is that my damage will be gimped unti lthe WAR levels because I just have Lv22 Bullets
DRG: WTF? Why would a COR use those instead of bronze bullets?
Me: Because no COR in thier right mind would use bronze?
DRG: They're 4k a stack. Normal bullets are like 90k a stack. You can shoot more of them.

Am I the only person missing something here? I eventually got bored of arguing and just started pulling. After a few crabs the DRG started bitching at me for pulling because he wanted to kill bats to finish pff his FoV. Then he kept whining and moaning that I was giving the melees Hunter's+Chaos instead of Chaos+Corsair's Roll despite that fact that the only person not constantly missing was the DNC. Then there was this:

DRG: You suck
Me: Why?
DRG: You can't even keep buffs up
Me: That's because I'm always out pulling
DRG: The BRD we had could do both fine. Why can't you?
Me: Because Phantom Roll takes a full minute to recast while Bard songs only take a few second to get back so they refresh buffs every time they get back but I have to wait a full minute between buffs.
DRG: Well why don't you refresh them when you get back?
Me: I have a 1 minute recast timer and I can't use the same buff again if it's active on me
DRG: But why do you always buff the mages first? Buff uss then the mages
Me: If I buff them first I lose Hunter's or Chaos on myself so my damage is gimped
DRG: But COR isn't a DD anyway so stop sucking
Me: Well you aren't voking when the tank is low on HP so stop sucking
DRG: I'm a Taru! I can't tank!
Me: You won't be tanking, the WAR can voke the mob off you as soon as she's healed
DRG: But I'm a Taru. I can't take hits
Me: You keep pulling hate fro mthe tank anyway so I don't know what difference it makes
DRG: But I'm a DD I'm supposed to hit things
Me: Yes and you're not supposed to be pulling hate from the tank. Take it easy
DRG: No the tank sucks for not keeping hate and the tank will die because I'm not DDing properly
Me: We have a COR, SAM, DRG, SMN and BLM all hitting these mobs. I'm fairly sure that holding back so the tank can KEEP hate wouldn't kill the mob any less quickly.

So basically CORs are BRDs are the same thing to this guy and apparently he isn't allowed to voke to keep the tank alive because he's a Taru or something but he can go all out DD-wise and blame the tank when he pulls hate from them . Thankfully he left some time after this. Well when I say "he left" I mean "He went AFK for about 10 minutes without saying so we repped him".

All I can say is if you want me to do something that my job isn't really designed to do then try and tell me how to play my job look at how you play your own job first.

[Tickmeoff]

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All I can say is if you want me to do something that my job isn't really designed to do then try and tell me how to play my job look at how you play your own job first.

Did you actually suggest that a DRG should pull with Jump?

Really?

That's pretty much forfeiting any right you had to complain about someone else telling you how to do your job.

[Fliegar]

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Did you actually suggest that a DRG should pull with Jump?

Really?

That's pretty much forfeiting any right you had to complain about someone else telling you how to do your job.

I have to agree, Dragoons should never have to pull, unless they're forced into voke pulling. Even Angon is a bit iffy. As a Cor/Rng, one would think that you'd be pulling, being the only true ranged class there that isn't a mage.

[Firewind]

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And you two forfeit all right to answer my post by not reading it.

Considering that the DRG was more likely to get back to camp alive and in one piece by jump pulling I would object. Seriously go COR/RNG and pull anything that hits harder than a Crab. The average mob has usually torn me apart before I get back to camp if I pull as /RNG.

My main complaint as that the entire party was capable of pulling in some way:

SAM: Longbows, voke
WAR: Acid Bolts, voke
DRG: Jump, voke
SMN: Carby
COR: A 600 delay weapon that is always going to be outclaimed by the THFs and WARs running around pulling stuff
BLM: Suicidal pulling with spells

Which out of those would you rather have pulling?

[hexx]

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At that level, most melees can tank, i.e. sam, war, mnk, etc. Hell even a DRG can take a few hits. The the war coulda easily pulled AND tanked (well depending on the camp) but still, rng atks give you a nice distance to run before the mob catches up and hits you. Asides from that, being a Taru means nothing at the low levels. Only thing wrong is you will have less HP than most. That DRG was just being a whiny bitch, and with that, shouldnt have been in a pt to begin with.


On a side note, what really grinded my gears today is a RDM that i pted with, stupid idiot comes to camp wearing a sword and shield expecting to melee. Now dont get me wrong, I firmly believe in melee RDMs, but not while in Caedarva exping on Imps. So i tell the rdm to switch to staves and get ready, and she tells me that she has no staves whatsoever because she has been only lvling by doing Campaign. Im like fine fuck it we need a healer and none are seeking. Stupid idiot couldnt keep a proper haste cycle up, and kept running out of mp even when it would use Convert!

So I end up dying due to a well placed tier 3 nuke (no shadows because I was silenced and no silena came cuz the rdm was out of mp) and I send the RDM to go buy at least a light and dark staff, and the punk decides to blow a fuse on me saying he/she doesnt have that kind of money. The rdm says that she has been in too much of a rush to hit 75 and no time to farm. So I tell her its not our problem, and that next time to come to a party properly equipped for fucks sake. She throws a bitch fit calling me an elitist and disbands the pt, with me still dead on the ground.

Needless to say, next mage I invite who doesnt come prepared gets the boot from me -.-

[Rothy]

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I have to agree, Dragoons should never have to pull, unless they're forced into voke pulling. Even Angon is a bit iffy. As a Cor/Rng, one would think that you'd be pulling, being the only true ranged class there that isn't a mage.

I think you're missing the part with the three other parties and things getting voked before a bullet can be shot off. Dragoon can pull fine at those kinds of levels if they really have to. He was an idiot by the sounds of it anyway so I wouldn't want him to.

As for the Taru who can't take hits.. it's people like him who make it almost impossible to get into a party for me as DRG or WAR. Because people insist I don't have enough HP to do anything.

Edit: Firewind summed it up better then me. ; ;