What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I'm getting there myself. Seems I can find PTs good enough on my SCH, but my COR seems to get all the drooling DDs and lame RDMs that can't do thier jobs well.

Had a RDM/BLM as main healer in bird camp. First he wanted to sync us all down to 72, which was pointless and actually hurts the flow of EXP we could be getting with our merits active. I didn't merit COR the way I did to have my abilities to be taken away with no warning. If you don't want my rolls boosted in effectivness and duration, that's your problem.

Then he wouldn't heal people. Not that the SAMs were helping, they didn't come /NIN, nor did the MNK.

Oh, and they wanted me to pull. As /DNC. Yeah, really winner of a PT there, remind me not to group with those guys again.

Also the re-emergence of the fad Corsair is getting on my nerves. Yeah, relic came out, it looks cool and people only want us for buffs. That doesn't change the fact SE pretty much gives us nothing but DD gear, so that's kind of a hint of where we're supposed to go with it. Level 22 bullets, weak guns, overloaded on MP gear on most of these guys.

I've seen COR/NINs with MP gear in almost every slot. In parties. WTF? COR/RNGs with gimp guns and bullets. COR/WHMs with unbalanced builds like always.

People are starting to think this job can't DD and the major reason is that the majority are now treating it like RDM or BRD. Refresh justifies everything.

Keep failing, people, you're only making me look that much better. Not that it was hard to make me look good, anyway.

[Firewind]

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I didn't realise COR was as effective a DD as RNG until a few nights back when I got to see it in action. Obviously RNG is much more versatile but wow even in AF gear plus a few +Ranged Attack gear our COR was putting out some huge numbers. The other DDs were a MNK, G.Axe WAR and BLU so it wasn't exactly going to outparse them but it was a very pleasant surprise to say the least.

That and with the Healer's Roll rolling lucky several time in a row I didn't even need refresh until the PLD ran out of MP (which is not often at all if they know what they're doing like this one was) which is always a bonus.

[Ellipses]

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People quoting the post right above them, especially if its a huge post. What is the point? If you're picking out certain sections of the post, then fair enough but the whole post.... why?

Because you never know if someone else is going to sneak in a post in between the time you start writing and the time you submit. There's also the issue of rolling from one page to another. Or the person you're quoting going back to edit their post in a way that makes your reply nonsensical.

All that said, I'm not a fan of gigantic quotes with tiny replies, either.

[Durahansolo]

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So Sunday morning I logged in before I went to church, like I always do on Sunday, to see who's first in Conquest. Sandy was in first for the first time in about a month so I was happy about that. Our LS leaders have been recruiting alot of people as of late especially since we've been doing Promy runs and stuff so i always look through the LS to see who is there and who's new since we have joke initiations and such. Going down the list I see a guy who is a lvl 21THF with no SJ and he's in a party. My first thought was, who the hell gave him a party with no SJ at 21. I called out his name in LS asking if he needed the SJ items but he didn't say anything.

A few minutes later I noticed one of the other sack holders was online (The LS leader's BF) so I sent him a tell asking him who the guy was. He said "Our LS leader invited him for a promy run", but I don't think that was right since he had no SJ o.o . Few mins later she pops her head in the ls so I asked her about it to which she said that he seemed ok when he was in the party with them yesterday so she didn't know why he had no SJ and she said she'd keep an eye on him for RMT suspicions lol. During the time me and her are talking I look back in the LS and I realize the party he was in was a level sync party and he was really a lvl 27THF with no SJ (what in the blue hell.) IMO after you hit 21 if you don't have a SJ you shouldn't get a party.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I didn't realise COR was as effective a DD as RNG until a few nights back when I got to see it in action. Obviously RNG is much more versatile but wow even in AF gear plus a few +Ranged Attack gear our COR was putting out some huge numbers. The other DDs were a MNK, G.Axe WAR and BLU so it wasn't exactly going to outparse them but it was a very pleasant surprise to say the least.

That and with the Healer's Roll rolling lucky several time in a row I didn't even need refresh until the PLD ran out of MP (which is not often at all if they know what they're doing like this one was) which is always a bonus.

Yeah, sad thing is that many CORs tend to underrate Healer's Roll, coupled with Evoker's, its better MP recovery than Ballad x2.

lolCORs just slap Corsair's Roll on everyone, give one buff to each side of the PT and then panic if they land on a 6 and don't double up.

[Clever Ninja]

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COR's are pretty beast, i've been staticing with one and a WAR on my BLU and its pretty sexy. I actually go out of my way to invite SMN/DRK/RNG for the benefits to the rolls, and the COR I static with can pull just fine, she has no problems bringing in mobs and sleeping, and dispelling where necessary. I haven't hit 75 yet though so I haven't encountered any of these infamous COR/WHM.

[Tek(Selphiie)]

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Why would you auto translate "I want experience points" then put JP only...



I hate these kids...



Its a pain in the ass, especially for those who can only make partys during their time...

[Durahansolo]

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Why would you auto translate "I want experience points" then put JP only...



I hate these kids...



Its a pain in the ass, especially for those who can only make partys during their time...

Yeah, they only do that so they can plot against us and laugh at us since their language is too l33t for us to fathom, j/k. That gets on my nerves too. What's funny is, I have yet to see a {I want experience points.} EU or EN only by american players, although I'm sure there are some that do it just to be funny. I don't have a problem with the JPs as long as I can understand their Auto-Translate or ones that speak limited english. Now that I think about it, in WG I'm shocked when I have a party that is all English speaking lol.

[Callisto]

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Time for my bi-weekly 'I hate the people in my LS' rant!

rawr

After spending the last week dealing with rumors that us officers don't schedule CoP dynamis runs because we spent the bank on leveling the shellholder's Smithing and because once we get our 2 Xarc drops we will stop Dynamis(makes perfect sense seeing as how the shellholder is on Ancile...), we were hoping for Xarc or an easy city run.

Xarc was taken, and of course since the zone we want is taken, the entire LS has to come in with their cries of HOLY SHIT LET'S DO COPPPPzzzz!!!!ONEDURRRRR. We have tried to not be outright with the reason that we don't do CoP Dynamis, we just say that we don't like it because it's near impossible to recoup the glass fee for the bank, and by that we mean we don't do CoP because 90% of our members are fucking morons and we're fairly certain that we are not good enough to clear anything past Buburimu. It's kind of difficult to subtly tell morons that they suck and it's their own fault that we can't do it, they don't take hints easily.

So we decide on Buburimu just to shut them the hell up, knowing that things won't end particularly well. After unlocking subjobs I head back to the main group and tell them to pull the first dragon. Somehow my controller goes fucking haywire(was using 360 controller on laptop) and I can't get off of autorun. And of course, Apocalyptic Beast, who we can never find when we actually need to pull him, is standing right there, I cruise control into him and get eaten. Of course only an R1 can make it over to me.

Most of the alliance somehow wipes to the first dragon, I have no fucking clue how as it's the easiest one in the zone, I have to find them while weakened and finish it off. After getting everyone up and dealing with the insane amount of HURRRRR LETZ GET VALOR CAPEZ HURRRRR in LS chat, we go on with the rest of the run. The rest of the pre-boss wasn't completely terrible, though they fucked up on the last Dragon before boss while I was kiting boss, eventually he got me with Poison Breath right before they were ready to pull, and of course I get another R1.

After the boss we horribly link and wipe the first pull we attempt on Crabs, Ravens, Dhalmels, and Efts, all of them. We left with a huuuuuge bounty of RNG Legs, SMN Hands(which we get at least 2 of every Bastok, they don't even get lotted anymore), BST -1 Hands, MNK Cape, and SAM -1 Hands, possibly the only even remotely decent drop of the night.

And after all that most the LS was still going HURRRRR LETZ DO VALK NEXT HURRRR. I hate everybody.

Also, I prefer JP Only parties myself, this way when they inevitably say something completely fucking retarded, I can't understand it so I don't get as angry.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Callisto, I think at this point breaking thier fragile little hearts is for the best.

I swear 100% of the people who play this game think they are totally awesome, but the truth is, 90% of them suck. And I think I'm being generous there.

[Callisto]

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The best moment was when one of our members was like "We need another tank", and one of our several(I think at least 5) members who have PLD to 75 but are fucking terrible at the job was like "Well me and so and so have PLDs...good ones too!!" and the shellholder had to preempt me with a /t to not say anything, as he knew I was about to say flat out that the reason we don't let them come PLD is because when we did they all fucking sucked at it, and that was the reason why we prefer me tanking as RDM over them.

[Firewind]

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Yeah, sad thing is that many CORs tend to underrate Healer's Roll, coupled with Evoker's, its better MP recovery than Ballad x2.

lolCORs just slap Corsair's Roll on everyone, give one buff to each side of the PT and then panic if they land on a 6 and don't double up.

Healer's Roll can potentially add up to +15hMP (assuming a roll of 11 and a WHM being present). That is a HUGE amount and coupling that with my Dark Staff and Qirqin Sash means that I don't even have to touch any cookies. I can just use Marron Glace (I love having more MP then HP) or Mushroom Stew (especially if there's a really bad NIN tanking) instead. being able to get back something like 40+ MP in one tick (adding in Calm Mind, resting gear, food bonuses etc) is pretty incredible even without any form of refresh being present. Stuff like this is why I try to go out of my way to get a COR into the party.

And to be honest Corsair's Roll is overrated IMO. The bonus exp is nice but considering that dropping a Chaos Roll on the melees while dropping a Healer's Roll and Evoker's Roll on the mages will benefit the party more then a few bonus exp a kill especially if you are chaining mobs pretty quickly. For for exp bonus from a Corsair's Roll to truelly be effective you need to be regularly hitting #5 Chain after #5 Chain in an exp party and getting a pickup group to achieve that is usually very difficult.

[Callisto]

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And to be honest Corsair's Roll is overrated IMO. The bonus exp is nice but considering that dropping a Chaos Roll on the melees while dropping a Healer's Roll and Evoker's Roll on the mages will benefit the party more then a few bonus exp a kill especially if you are chaining mobs pretty quickly. For for exp bonus from a Corsair's Roll to truelly be effective you need to be regularly hitting #5 Chain after #5 Chain in an exp party and getting a pickup group to achieve that is usually very difficult.

Depends on the level and killspeed. If a 2nd roll doesn't make you kill 15%~ faster and result in more chain 5's, Corsair's will generally make better XP/hr, though I still prefer a 4-roll rotation from 40-72. At merit camps, if you aren't the only buffer your party should typically be killing fast enough that another melee buff would make you kill faster than repops can support, in which case Corsair's is the clear winner.

Typically it's an issue of people reading somewhere about the situation described above and seeing 'Corsair's is better', and then retardedly trying to force meripo mechanics onto lower level parties.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Depends on the level and killspeed. If a 2nd roll doesn't make you kill 15%~ faster and result in more chain 5's, Corsair's will generally make better XP/hr, though I still prefer a 4-roll rotation from 40-72. At merit camps, if you aren't the only buffer your party should typically be killing fast enough that another melee buff would make you kill faster than repops can support, in which case Corsair's is the clear winner.

Typically it's an issue of people reading somewhere about the situation described above and seeing 'Corsair's is better', and then retardedly trying to force meripo mechanics onto lower level parties.

Its not even really about people trying to apply high level mechanics to lower level PTs, they just want Corsair's Roll because they're greedy.

This is why I only roll it under the following conditions:

(1) BRD is pulling, thus, I'm free to DD as I please and I can drop on buff he would do anyway.

(2) Someone dies and the PT can continue without them, I'll place Corsair's Roll on that member to help the get extra EXP back while they rest.

(3) Sky/Sea farming and/or Manaburn/SMN Parties. If we're farming, we're killing fairly fast anyway and its a nice way to recoup lost EXP or get people more merit points. If you're manaburning with BLMs who have AM2s, you really don't need to do Wizard's or Warlock's Roll since they kill puddings and wamoura princes fast anyway. BST PTs the focus is on pet damage and pet tanking, melee output is secondary here, so Beast and Corsair's Roll there. This is also just because I'm a soloist on SCH and BST myself and since BSTs and BLMs work hard for thier EXP all the way to 75, I feel they should be rewarded for getting there.

Now, if I'm pulling, I don't have time to micromanage my positioning and make everyone happy with Corsair's Roll. No, I'll play to positioning extremes and do a four-buff rotation since I'm practically doing all the work of buffing, pulling, sleeping and even off-tanking to hold an additional mob for chain. That's enough work for me, thanks. You should be killing fast enough that you shouldn't need an EXP bonus anyway. Pop your Empress ring if you want EXP that bad.

[Firewind]

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I noted specifically that it was an exp party because I'm sick of people who start spouting meripo mechanics and conecpts when it's obvious that I'm NOT talking about a meripo or anything endgame or remotely burn related of that matter

I can see where Corsair's would be useful but I'm talking about your early 60's exp party where you are usually just killing the last mob as a new one pops so you can keep up the cycle. Obviously in a merit party you want to get every little bit of exp you can to get those limit points so a Corsair's roll WOULD be more useful as a 4th roll.

In exp parties where chains tend to be much shorter I would prefer something like a Hunter's Roll for the DDs being the 4th roll especially considering it's hard to keep up large chains when in a traditional party setup and especially if it's a pickup group of total strangers.