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I've got a little rant here but it sets up the point I'm trying to make.
So I get a party last night valkurm. I'm 13 blu/war and the party is filled up with a 12 whm/blm, a 14 war/nothing, 12thf/nothing and two 14 monks. They are killing liz so xp isn't good but the party is fun. I have to voke now and again and tank b/c the whm is elvaan and has no gear or mp. Like I said it was a fun, challenge. The monks leave b/c they don't like the xp, which I can understand, most people just want to get out of Valkurm as quick as possible. So then we replace them with a 13 brd and a 13 or 14 pup. As soon as the pup gets in the party he starts his metagamer chat.
We start out with let's do crabs, oh wait no we have war tank, let blu tank, oh wait your def is a grand 5 lower than the max possible at this lvl and, this was the kicker, "I would feel better with a PL." Now the bard who is rank 10 is patiently doing her best at making the party better. While the rank 2 pup is doing nothing but complain and basically going on how he could solo all these mobs that are vt to him yet he wouldn't pull which I have seen many pups do successfully. The war made a mistake of saying that he is new and has only been playing for 5 days. The pup then goes on that in 5 days you should be 30+ with a subjob, yet offers no real suggestions to help this person. At this point I am "sorry, thanks for the party but I rather solo." The fun had been drained by this persons asanine comments.
My questions are three. First, how can anybody expect a new player to be able to get through this game at the rate the pup suggested without first pouring over forums for extended periods of time? The second is (since I am fairly new myself) was I wrong in my course of action as far as what is generally accepted by the FFXI community? I guess I'll drop in a third being when do you feel the fun stops and the over attentitive party optimization begins?
I realize now I probably should have sent the new player a tell at least and encouraged him to move forward, but I was flabbergasted by the request for a pl, which in my opinion takes the fun out of partying.
So I get a party last night valkurm. I'm 13 blu/war and the party is filled up with a 12 whm/blm, a 14 war/nothing, 12thf/nothing and two 14 monks. They are killing liz so xp isn't good but the party is fun. I have to voke now and again and tank b/c the whm is elvaan and has no gear or mp. Like I said it was a fun, challenge. The monks leave b/c they don't like the xp, which I can understand, most people just want to get out of Valkurm as quick as possible. So then we replace them with a 13 brd and a 13 or 14 pup. As soon as the pup gets in the party he starts his metagamer chat.
We start out with let's do crabs, oh wait no we have war tank, let blu tank, oh wait your def is a grand 5 lower than the max possible at this lvl and, this was the kicker, "I would feel better with a PL." Now the bard who is rank 10 is patiently doing her best at making the party better. While the rank 2 pup is doing nothing but complain and basically going on how he could solo all these mobs that are vt to him yet he wouldn't pull which I have seen many pups do successfully. The war made a mistake of saying that he is new and has only been playing for 5 days. The pup then goes on that in 5 days you should be 30+ with a subjob, yet offers no real suggestions to help this person. At this point I am "sorry, thanks for the party but I rather solo." The fun had been drained by this persons asanine comments.
My questions are three. First, how can anybody expect a new player to be able to get through this game at the rate the pup suggested without first pouring over forums for extended periods of time? The second is (since I am fairly new myself) was I wrong in my course of action as far as what is generally accepted by the FFXI community? I guess I'll drop in a third being when do you feel the fun stops and the over attentitive party optimization begins?
I realize now I probably should have sent the new player a tell at least and encouraged him to move forward, but I was flabbergasted by the request for a pl, which in my opinion takes the fun out of partying.
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