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  • Don't use the Rune Blade!

    I'm sure this is old news for most people, but I was away from the game for awhile and before anyone knew what this thing was.

    I was looking for a good sword to replace my lvl 55 degen with the acc bonus to do some farming for goldsmithing material. The Rune blade looked great. It had the best base damage of any not insanely priced sword, and the latent effect looked really sweet although I figured that would only trigger if I was low on hp.

    So I head to Movopolas and start farming the moblin ingots. The sword seemed to be doing FANTASTIC. Ordinarily I'd hit for about 60 against the Moblin Ashman, but I was breaking 100 every time. I figured it was a combination of gearing up for soloing which I hadn't done before (some ogre stuff, ruby rings, amament mantle) and eating a mithkabob and the increased dmg of the base stat on the sword.

    I head over to one of the groups of 3 moblins + Freelance. Normally, these battles are slow, but very safe. I normally end up with about 200 or so less mp and no less hp after taking 4 of them on at once.

    I finish them off and convert and head for the other group. While fighting, I notice I have alot less mp then I normally do. Then I notice my mp is going DOWN (this is horrifying for a rdm, like a reversal of the laws of nature or something, the precuser to the end of times). The moblins crit more than usual on me and I end up low on mp and convert is 5 min away. I ended up having to run as a 73 rdm against these stupid moblins, attracting a train of what must've been 30 of them by the time I got out (I didn't stop to look, I barely made it out alive! Pro/Phalanx/stoneskin were all gone, refresh was off, I was in TROUBLE)

    I had no way to account for this loss of mp. I figure maybe there was an update with mithkabobs or it was some weird combination of mithkabob/bio/ogre gear. The mith wore out so I ate a marrion glace instead. I rested then converted and all seemed well. Mp was going up as it should.

    I then go to try those moblins again. As soon as the fight starts, my mp starts dropping again! Again, I have to run (although choosing to in less desperate circumstances this time).

    It had to be one of the new gear I purchaced, so I tried a battle with the old sword. No mp drain, everything was perfectly safe. I later checked on Alla and discovered that the hidden trait of mp drain was already known. It's 4mp/tick drain, if you have mp, and when in battle. The dmg of this thing is awesome, but damn, you can't solo very long without mp, and this thing not only negates refresh but adds a 1/tick drain, so you basically have to spend 40 mp on refresh just to tred water mp wise.

    I will be selling this thing asap!

  • #2
    Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

    yeah all rune weapons drain MP for LE to kick in
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    • #3
      Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

      The secret to rune weapons is for use on non-mp using jobs with an mp merit and juice. Rune Chopper in particular does well with this, though not quite as good as /nin with axes...

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      • #4
        Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

        At least now you know why it's cheap.
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        • #5
          Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

          My friend did the same mistake, lol, but he used Refresh to try and cancel the refresh.

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          • #6
            Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

            get yourself a sea LS and Justice sword! YAY
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            • #7
              Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

              Theres another use for sanction refresh, or some nice piece of gear that gives you refresh, melee can use the rune weapons! ^^ you'd need some mp though, atleast 1 :x

              All in all, its a fair trade-off, but the thing is that soloing isnt just about the dmg you do, you need a means to recover too, so you have to make a decision, do you use your mp to fuel the sword to shell out the big numbers, or do you save your mp to recover in case a critical hit lands on you?
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              • #8
                Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

                Two words for you: Gaudy Harness.

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                And I just realized that it was BRD/BST only.
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                • #9
                  Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

                  Valkyrie Mask + Rune Chopper + Sanction Refresh = Fun!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

                    I've had a Rune Blade for a long time now and I love it, you just have to know when to use it

                    If you want something more steady get a Mighty Talwar or an Anelace +1, I got a talwar once but sold it and kept my Rune Blade instead, if you are fighting Arcana or any kind of magic mobs /drk and Rune Blade will destroy them. But if you aren't fighting magic mobs or are farming mobs that take too long to kill then a regular sword or a good dagger will work better.

                    Now, post-update /pld is a great choice if you are fighting undead, you lose double attack but you get TP bonus from shield mastery (for Vorpal), and auto-refresh will make things even if you are using Rune, but if you feel you are still short on mp then Mighty is the way to go.

                    In any case saying (or implying) Rune is useless is very irresponsable, only Excalibur and Mighty on windsday have better dmg since rdm doesnt get any of the cool high dmg swords (SE hates us ).
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                    • #11
                      Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

                      I didn't say it was useless, I was just tramatized. I think in a single solo fight against a mob you can kill fairly quickly and sword is useful, it would be good. I personally can't think of a sitauation like that, but I'm sure there's one or two.

                      That drain is really costly, however, so I don't see how it could be useful for more than a fight or two. Refresh costs 40 mp and you lose the 150 mp you would've gotten from refresh and there's an additional 50 mp drained per cycle. So that's 240 mp less you have to spend (a 90 mp drain) every refresh cycle.

                      I'm sure there's some places you can make it work because obviously you have, but personally I'll just get a decent sword like the ones you mentioned until I can get a joyeuse.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

                        Funny how the Rune Staff drains MP but the Relic Staff gives MP...
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                        • #13
                          Re: Don't use the Rune Blade!

                          I exclusively used Rune axes soloing pots and dolls in sky as Bst/Nin. Ogre gloves for a little MP + Gaudy Harness refresh = 10hp/2tic Regen.

                          Definately useful in the right situation.


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