Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

[Moaku Hyena]

Well, we've all seen the anti-MPK measures, and limits on transferring Gil. Surely, I thought I was going to see the end of sites like IGE and MOGS selling FFXI Gil. Unfortunately, I was WRONG.

Well, while browsing FF Fansites, I noticed that there were still ads for Gil. In my mind, I was wondering why this was the case.

So my mind told me to peek. Of course, I've no intention to buy any Gil, especially after the numerous MPKs I've suffered.

Now, when looking on the sites, I found that Gilselling was still prime and boiling. "How the H-E-Double Hockey Sticks is this possible? I thought SE kicked the Gilsellers in the balls!"....And the Gilsellers farming Trigger Mobs in Ru'Avitu Shrine wasn't the obvious click....

Well folks, here's how those little bastards are doing it.

â—† Notice

The FFXI game have updated, and the maximum gil amount delivered by Post box is 1 million at one time. Now we will trade the gil directly with you in game face to face. After you placed the order, please come to auction house in Lower Jeuno,beside the NPC Subash, keep your charater online 30mins - 60mins,we will find you in game and fill your order.

Oh, and FYI....My pal told me that AH prices for Cure 1 on Ramuh are 20,000 Gil (My god, flock to the NPC shops already), and he got MPked by an Orc (Yep, there's a way around the MPK prevention system; the MPK was however accidental). So yeah....San'Doria, we have a problem.

[Matera]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

They won't give up as long as there's money in it for them.

Also note: Mhurron and the lot'll be here soon uping their gil, just don't flame, or else your thread'll get locked.

[Jei]

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haha reselling scrolls are always a way to make money ^^ That's not the RMT's fault tho, it's just the laziness of new players that don't even explore. (that being said, when I started it took me long enough to realize distril water sells from NPC too)

The 1M limit, ever since I heard about it I never even think about RMTing being put to end. If anything, it hurt us legit players more than RMT. Meeting face to face to do real trade is just so easy.
But now, for legit players, we can't deliver BCNM shares to our members anymore. So freaking annoying I tell you.

[Ryouken]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

Don't fear, I have already discovered an ancient prophecy that explains the fate of all gilsellers (already posted this on another gilseller thread):

And yay, there will come a day when those who selleth or buyeth the gil will cause utter chaos that shall consumeth the world of FFXI,
And on that dayeth of chaos, all of the innocent players shall be ravaged by the uberness of the ones who buyeth (and selleth) the gil, being thrown into everlasting pain and torture,
The dark ones shall taketh all the good gear frometh the Auction House and they shall prance around shouting "Checketh out my uber gear Bi-otch",
Yay, all of the innocent players shall frown and there will be much crying and cussing, as the dark ones taketh all the fun from the game and screweth all the other players...

But do not lose despair!
For after a few days of the pain and chaos, a messiah shall emergeth and restore peace once again,
And yay, he shall flyeth through the sky on his huge pimpin golden dragon, which shall feasteth on the flesh of the dark ones,
The messiah will flameth the dark ones and make them cry like sissy girls, bringing peace back to the land,
And there will be much rejoicing!
And yay, the great one who will saveth us from chaos, the destroyer of all that is noobish, will go by the name....

[GM] Dave!

The prophecy will come true!

[Moaku Hyena]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

They won't give up as long as there's money in it for them.

Also note: Mhurron and the lot'll be here soon uping their gil, just don't flame, or else your thread'll get locked.

Nah, I'm not the Flaming type. I'm just simply praying that SE ended RMT with their new "countermeasures".

Well, it's just "Back to the drawing board" for them.

[Tirrock]

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IGE even manages to sell Influence on City of Heroes. A game where high levels will randomly give players as much influence as they can trade at one time just for being a female hero with a tight outfit. (That's what I gathered at least... I played male characters on there, and my female friend kept getting money tossed at her.)

If they can somehow make money by selling CoH money...I don't know if SE can really do anything to stop them.

[MisterCookie]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

As long as there are ass***s like EondarkCaitsith around, gilselling and buying will continue(Just for reference: he on alla openly admitted to gilbuying, and felt completely justified doing it)

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

Seriously, this is old news. The day after the change to the delivery box was implemented, they had these notices up on their site. No, they won't ever give up. They will always find a way around anything SE does to try and stop them. The only way to truly stop them is to have every single person that plays the game never ever buy any gil. And when that happens I'll buy each of you a Ferrari.

[Caspian]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

And when that happens I'll buy each of you a Ferrari.

You promise?
I'll pull a bounty hunter and track them down....

[Tirrock]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

*patiently waits for FFXI to close down to ask TheGrandMom for a Ferrari*

[Moaku Hyena]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

(Ferrari) (Can I have it?)
My stand on this is that SE will eventually find some way to stop them.

Now, I devised my own Anti-MPK idea.

If you were somehow MPked by another party and/or person, you will not recieved any EXP loss. Furthermore, you will have an automatic Raise available, with no Weakness side effect. Additionally, your HP and MP will return to the amount before you were MPKed.

[Caspian]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

Not trying to be a naysayer, but it would be very difficult to implement. The game would have to figure out if you died of a natural link or other poor playing or if it were an actual mpk.
I like the idea though, just have to find a way to make it implementable.
(And if they ever get rid of gilsellers, i'll be very impressed.)

[Jei]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

Can I have a PS3 and Wii instead?

[Moaku Hyena]

Re: Oh my god. Will they (The Gilsellers) EVER give up?

Not trying to be a naysayer, but it would be very difficult to implement. The game would have to figure out if you died of a natural link or other poor playing or if it were an actual mpk.
I like the idea though, just have to find a way to make it implementable.
(And if they ever get rid of gilsellers, i'll be very impressed.)

Nah, shouldn't be too hard.

Let's say that if you attacked a monster, that monster is flagged. Any monster dealt damage from any attacks will flag that monster as not being a link. Now, there will be two different kinds of flags, flags for your party/ alliance and flags for those outside of your party/ alliance.

So if a monster kills you and it isn't flagged, or your party hits two at once, it's a link. The flag ATTACKED_PARTY or ATTACKED_ALLIANCE will be active.

However, if the monster is flagged and recieved an ATTACKED_OTHERS flag, being not in your party or party/alliance, then MPK can be detected. So if a few thousand monsters flagged ATTACKED_OTHERS nail your party, the system will see it as MPK.

The whole Radius thing was a start, but I say my idea is better. The only thing to lose instead of a mob, an item, and a few thousand EXP is time.

Now, let's see the Gilsellers exploit THAT.

[little ninja]

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S.E started inforcing the rules, gil selling would be a problem still, but youd also be lvling the playing feild again. when a gil seller warps to a mob infront of 100 peeps, an 100 peeps file a complaint, then S.E should monitor the player for a few days, if they are caught again, they are permantly banned, no if's ans or butss.

maybe if S.E inforced the rules players who sold accounts on ebay would wake up the next morning to an account perma banned. because these players show names an servers, all S.E has to do is go browse for 10 mins an close down accounts,