Future Male Mithra

[Kyero Fox]

Re: Future Male Mithra

They could probably make a spin that for a long time there have been few male mithra, but a new tribe was found or enough time has accumulated for them to finally go out and explore Vanadiel...

exactly what ive been saying most of the time... also i was thinking what if the Mithra started Mating with Hume Guys seeing their almost the same size. their children could be Male from the Hume Side and Still Mithra and that would make them Male Mithra or Humethra >.> lol

(... sorry elvaans ur just too tall and ur kids would look funky lol, Galka+Mithra= 0kids do to loss of uh you know ... sexless. and no way in hell would Mithra and TaruTaru ever get it on. so its down too us Humes to save the Mithra race XD)

Well from everything that I've read it wasn't something new or recent that caused a lack of male mithras, it's the way their culture is. Look at lions, there's usually one or two males at most and the rest of the pride is all female, who are also the ones who do the hunting and such. The story about the mithras is that males are rarely born and thus protected, not just that they were killed in the war. When SE said there might male mithra, that's most likely hinting at future expansions that will deal with the area that mithra originated from.

As for guys irl who play mithras in game and act like girls, they do that with female humes and elvaan too. If someone wants to act like a female in game they'll play a female character regardless of other choices. That's not a problem that will be fixed by adding male mithras.

we talked a lot about it and i didnt even mean to bring up the Males playing Female characters but thats is NOT! why i want Male Mithras. im just stating trying to keep it withen Mithras. but yea people are creepy and make Female characters even if male are playable. there are diffrent type of people then
People who say "im a guy, i just made a Female character because of the races stats" or "I want something to look at when i play (ass boobs ... pixles)

and people who say "Hi ^.^ hehe, im a woman/girl/female (w.e)" but lie and they are realy a Guy in RL just doing it because there either messed up in the head or just doing it for kicks.
the people who Confess there a guy In RL and dont mess with you i dont have a Problem.
but the people who lie and mess with you for Laughs or to get Items piss me off.. and i have one thing too say.
"Get some damn Dignity you sick fuck"
but its also the person who falls for it's fault so i give them a
"You shouldnt have fell for it..."

[Tsikuro]

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Yeah, you know, it would be sort of stupid to see Male Mithras as new characters...
Firstly, because it does break the current image of male Mithras, and S-E isn't really one to break the image of anything they create in this game.

Secondly, because of the 'limitations' of the PS2- I'm sure if storage somehow cuts into it, this would too... the addition of a whole new race.

And thirdly, it wouldn't make much sense to have the race added, especially for those of us with 5+ lv75 jobs. We'd have to start a new character just to play it- and there isn't going to be a surplus of new players joining FFXI (except for when it goes retail on the 360), but I don't think they said they'd be adding that at Aht Urhgan launch.

[Kyero Fox]

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Of corse not. but personaly i think FFXI should have came out for PS2 to begin with. if S-E had avoided making it playable on PS2 and waited for PS3 and 360 to come out to release it. now S-E has to Deal with PS2 and PC and Xbox 360.

[Nemesismo]

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Of corse not. but personaly i think FFXI should have came out for PS2 to begin with. if S-E had avoided making it playable on PS2 and waited for PS3 and 360 to come out to release it. now S-E has to Deal with PS2 and PC and Xbox 360.

Im sorry im confused what are you trying to say?

Do you mean if FFXI had come out WITH MALE MITHRA RACE out for ps2 to begin with?

if so please be a bit clearer

Plus i think it will just be NPC male mithras due to the limitations of PS2. WoW could manage something like this because its PC/MAC only.

But keep in mind this is a Console MMORPG therefore comes console limitations. Yes it sucks that its that way but hey im still loving the game.

[Tsikuro]

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Im sorry im confused what are you trying to say?

Do you mean if FFXI had come out WITH MALE MITHRA RACE out for ps2 to begin with?

if so please be a bit clearer

Plus i think it will just be NPC male mithras due to the limitations of PS2. WoW could manage something like this because its PC/MAC only.

But keep in mind this is a Console MMORPG therefore comes console limitations. Yes it sucks that its that way but hey im still loving the game.

No, he's saying that it shouldn't have come out for PS2.
And I agree... if you're eager enough to play the game, you could dish out the cash for a PC (which you'll need in life, at some point, either way). I don't think it should've been released for the 360, either, because soon, support for the PS2 will be discontinued (when PS3 comes out), and 360 will just be another limitation for Square. Sure, it's got nice specs, but it not infinite HDD space, like PCs.

If they aimed a bit higher, they could've created a much more open-ended world- just image getting rid of zones and having it be all seamless... ; ;

After you've played the game as long as I have, everything has a 'technical' feel to it. You stop looking at the environments, level design, etc, and it's all just another 'zone'. In other MMORPGs, however, a seamless world really helps that...

[Nemesismo]

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I don't think it should've been released for the 360, either, because soon, support for the PS2 will be discontinued (when PS3 comes out), and 360 will just be another limitation for Square. Sure, it's got nice specs, but it not infinite HDD space, like PCs.

Im gonna have to disagree with you there. I am not really fond of the xbox line but hey there are lots who are, and i think that introducing the game for Xbox360 players will bring new interest to the game and also alot of fresh blood. Whenever people think MMORPG nowadays most of them think WoW, therefore any reaching out to new people to join the game of FF11 is more than welcome in my opinion

[Tsikuro]

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Im gonna have to disagree with you there. I am not really fond of the xbox line but hey there are lots who are, and i think that introducing the game for Xbox360 players will bring new interest to the game and also alot of fresh blood. Whenever people think MMORPG nowadays most of them think WoW, therefore any reaching out to new people to join the game of FF11 is more than welcome in my opinion

You know, after playing Halo 2 at a friend's house, I'm scared to see the type of crowd FFXI will attract on the Xbox ><;;

[Kyero Fox]

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No, he's saying that it shouldn't have come out for PS2.

And I agree... if you're eager enough to play the game, you could dish out the cash for a PC (which you'll need in life, at some point, either way). I don't think it should've been released for the 360, either, because soon, support for the PS2 will be discontinued (when PS3 comes out), and 360 will just be another limitation for Square. Sure, it's got nice specs, but it not infinite HDD space, like PCs.



If they aimed a bit higher, they could've created a much more open-ended world- just image getting rid of zones and having it be all seamless... ; ;



After you've played the game as long as I have, everything has a 'technical' feel to it. You stop looking at the environments, level design, etc, and it's all just another 'zone'. In other MMORPGs, however, a seamless world really helps that...

thats basicly what i ment to say everything else i have to dissagree with. Its ok if it comes out for Xbox 360 because that System is basicly a Super Computer put into a Xbox and would have more than enough capability to play FFXI for many generations(if they dont spice up the Graphics to WoW. Look at Elder Scrolls 4 : Oblivion 360 is gona be able to play it too and Oblivion makes every RPG game look like Pong.

now for the PS3 we will have to wait if it can handle the Online capability. i dont think it would have any other probs than that.

If S-E only made FFXI for the PC to begin with we would prob have more Character Designs, Weapons, Armor, Emotions(damn u PS2) etc etc and maybe a new Race(Male Mithra) NPC or playable some time in the near Future

If S-E would have done the same thing as WoW there would be much more to the game than there is today.

You know, after playing Halo 2 at a friend's house, I'm scared to see the type of crowd FFXI will attract on the Xbox ><;;

HAHAHAHAHA! yea thats true

[silentsteel]

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Give it a few weeks, they'll leave after meeting Actual players on regular servers.

[Macht]

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They could probably make a spin that for a long time there have been few male mithra, but a new tribe was found or enough time has accumulated for them to finally go out and explore Vanadiel...

New tribe was found? When they gave detail of the races they were doing it in the omnipresence state, how can the "all knowing" state not know a races' status. To finish the description does not state directly that there are very few males mithras, the closest it comes is to such a suggestion is the vaigue wording predominantly female.

Predominantly doesn't mean strickly that females are greater in number, it can also mean that the race's strength or control is mainly female. It leaves the races status of population fairly vaigue. Yes though, much of every race is described in the game. The more you talk to each NPCs and even some missions/quests touch on describing the races.

If they were to add Male Mithra it would have to carry on a line more of a culture change, not population and definatly not going against an omnipresence statment. Like I stated they are cat elvaan race, and so are doing the same culture as cats do. With cats the females are the predominate gender, they are the hunters, gatherers, child raisers, etc.. Otherwise the male cat's role is usually just to defend territory.

So with that stated only way I could think of male mithra's being shown is likely in the situations of a Garrison type fight or like those Raids planned to be in ToA. SE is far more likely if they have to do something race wise to tie it into a birth of a new race, in this way they could offer the potential of players wanting they could be "reborn" as this new race. Idea is along a story line you find in the game about the Tonberries, something to that nature or line sounds far more likely.

[Kyero Fox]

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New tribe was found? When they gave detail of the races they were doing it in the omnipresence state, how can the "all knowing" state not know a races' status. To finish the description does not state directly that there are very few males mithras, the closest it comes is to such a suggestion is the vaigue wording predominantly female.

Predominantly doesn't mean strickly that females are greater in number, it can also mean that the race's strength or control is mainly female. It leaves the races status of population fairly vaigue. Yes though, much of every race is described in the game. The more you talk to each NPCs and even some missions/quests touch on describing the races.

If they were to add Male Mithra it would have to carry on a line more of a culture change, not population and definatly not going against an omnipresence statment. Like I stated they are cat elvaan race, and so are doing the same culture as cats do. With cats the females are the predominate gender, they are the hunters, gatherers, child raisers, etc.. Otherwise the male cat's role is usually just to defend territory.

So with that stated only way I could think of male mithra's being shown is likely in the situations of a Garrison type fight or like those Raids planned to be in ToA. SE is far more likely if they have to do something race wise to tie it into a birth of a new race, in this way they could offer the potential of players wanting they could be "reborn" as this new race. Idea is along a story line you find in the game about the Tonberries, something to that nature or line sounds far more likely.

But what if they did the story with Mithras Mating with Humes? or Elvaans .... just a thought lol

[Ziero]

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That's the thing with the word 'race' in games like these, it's rather misleading. If these races could crossbread, it would have happened before...many many times. In fact it would probably be a very common sight as many NPCs in the game, both story and non story related fall for members of different 'races'. Scientifically speaking creatures of the same race can breed and produce offspring, yet no signs of that ever happening in the FFXI world are shown. Due to that fact it can only mean that the 'races' in this game are actually different spieces, which can't reproduce to create offspring. So a new race based on the idea of two pre-existing races mating seems highly unlikely as an event like that should have happened before if it were possible.

Also, it does say that the reason Male Mithra are kept secret is because they are so rare not because of culturally dominant females. They specifically state that male mithras are rarely born and because of this they are kept protected and safe from the outside world (which also adds to the "different races can't mate" concept). I'm sure there will be male mithras introduced in the storyline a bit further down the road, mainly because the mithra homeland has yet to be released as of yet. Kazham is a settlement of mithras who left their homes and the ones in windurst were mainly travelers looking for a more open life style.

All signs point to male mithras never being a playable race, in fact I think SE even stated that they don't want to add more races.

[Darkhound]

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I would have also been a male mithra if the there would have been the option.
Given how the story is..... male mitras do the hose chores etc, while the females do all the work. However, this tends me to belive that there is MUCH MORE to be added to the game, Because so fare there is not a signe MALE mithra NPC to my knowledge... not in windy... not even in khazam.

So where are they? This can lead us to some theories.

1. This will be left as a huge plot hole that will never be answered by SE as to where male mitras are
2. They are in that locked up area that you cant enter in Khazam, b
3. In future patches or expansions, we will have access to info a bout the TRUE mitra nation.

Male mithras are suposed to be VERY rare, so why keep the poor guys all hidden?

This is interesting!

Double Post Edited:

Give it a few weeks, they'll leave after meeting Actual players on regular servers.

I would like to know...in what way are xbox live players differetn than us that play ffxi? This is an interestng point of view!

[Naymi]

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People keep saying "Kitsune". I don't know if you have realized that Mithra are cat people, not Fox people. And that Kitsune means Fox in Japanese. So there will be no Kitsune's, as far as I know.

[Kyero Fox]

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People keep saying "Kitsune". I don't know if you have realized that Mithra are cat people, not Fox people. And that Kitsune means Fox in Japanese. So there will be no Kitsune's, as far as I know.

wow ........ simply wow ... u need to read the Kitsune posts a little more carfuly .......