It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

[Zaptruder]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

Most of it is simply ignorance.

And ignorance from fanboys makes it (the overall debacle) right somehow?

As for the patronizing comment, I've probably been around the community far longer than you boy... I don't see how its relevant to the discussion at hand though.

[Rodin]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

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That's me about 2 years ago.....My computer is no where state of the art, I have a SUCKY ass GFX card, and the settings are no where near capped....Look at how BEAUTIFUL the game looks even though I have nothing outstanding on my computer.....My brother runs WoW with the same settings....the game is too jagged and rough around the edges to even compare to pics like this.....I'll post a SS of WoW on the same PC.


Edit: Found a 360 SS that I LOVE.

[Yashin]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFX

Yashin those pics of WoW and EQ2 are not running on a high-end PC, just by looking at that wow pic I can tell Anti Aliasing isn't even on, and if it is it couldn't possibly be on beyond 2X - not to mention that its running at a very low resolution. Those EQ2 pics... I can't tell if the picture is low quality or the PC running it is weak, but it looks all washed out.

As I said, I did not take pics from playing EQ or WoW, if you wanna post more pics to show off WoW/EQ2 goahead, because those pics do indeed suck...but i couldnt find better...

[Pounce]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFX

This might clarify as to what kind of roleplaying takes place in Eve: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/19/24

Though it was quite the cruel thing to happen to the people on the receiving end, and even though the article deals with aspects of griefing, it is quite the story.

Wow, that was after my time in Eve, but still incredibly. Certainly a lot more interesting than your average "Save the world from the evildoers!" story IMHO ;p

My greatest moment in Eve was during the TTI war which generated headlines in the forums that sounded something straight out of real-world news media. Sadly I had to quit the game shortly after that.

[Ockman]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

Let me put it to people this way though. Anyone who can agree with that guy's arguments, isn't a fan of FFXI. Complain about the trivial things that this moron said, then why do you even play it or post on this forum? This is a one time setup deal, and after that it's smooth sailing. Personally, I always enjoyed the installation process, it built up my excitement and hype, cause I knew in the end it was gonna pay off. It is a hard game compared to other MMORPGs, there is alot of grinding and leveling up. It is hard to solo, and it does force you to work with others. But in the end, that's what makes the game so rewarding! You feel like you've accomplished something, and you don't just breeze through stuff.

I don't care if the game is old looking by xbox 360 standards, or doesn't use it to it's full power. Why is that soo important?! I'd be glad if developers didn't get so friggin hung up on graphics sometimes. I still don't think FFXI is outdated, because it's a beautiful game, but to those people that do think it's outdated in graphics, SO WHAT?!

Game's do not always need to put a system to the max. That's why for so long, the great dragon quest series hasn't been released in the states, we're too friggin hung up on graphics, and it wasn't until the series went 3D that we finally got the series brought back here. People here couldn't stand to play through an RPG like that cause it didn't push polygons or pixels like the final fantasy games at the time.

Legend of Zelda: Four Swords I thought was an awesome example that games do not need to use the latest in graphics to make an awesome game. I was so happy to see an old looking SNES graphics type game on a home console again, and they still managed to put in some cool looking effects only possible on the gamecube. People get so damn hung up on graphics, that we rarely, and may never see games like this on a home console, maybe a portable, but not a home console. Animal Crossing was also just an N64 port basically, no updated graphics, and it still did awesomely well cause the game was good!

[DakAttack]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

And ignorance from fanboys makes it (the overall debacle) right somehow?

As for the patronizing comment, I've probably been around the community far longer than you boy... I don't see how its relevant to the discussion at hand though.

Ah, you're just as ignorant as the IGN writer. If you can't see how ignorance plays into this complicated grand scheme you might as well turn your computer off, dig a hole, and live in it. We could argue back and forth, but I'll save that treat for the Allakhazam and KI forums.

Would you buy a puppy and complain that it craps on the floor? If you had bought the puppy, did you really think it wouldn't? Are we supposed to breed them with the ingrained knowledge not to crap on the floor just because it's possible? You get what you buy, and obviously this guy knew what he was buying.

[Pounce]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFX

Anyone who can agree with that guy's arguments, isn't a fan of FFXI.

Fan? I'm a fan. I like the game.

Fanboy? No. I don't worship the game. I don't think it's the best thing since sliced bread. I think it has a HUGE amount of flaws.

It's a great game. It's a fun game. But it's nowhere close to being a perfect game.

No offense, but you really, really do sound like you worship FFXI, or at least are pretty close to it.

Every game has it's flaws. Heck EVERYTHING has flaws. You don't have to make up excuses for what are obvious shortcomings. If you don't care about the shortcomings, good for you. That doesn't mean everybody else has to agree with you or else be branded an Public Enemy of Vanadiel.

[Ockman]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFX

Fan? I'm a fan. I like the game.

Fanboy? No. I don't worship the game. I don't think it's the best thing since sliced bread. I think it has a HUGE amount of flaws.

It's a great game. It's a fun game. But it's nowhere close to being a perfect game.

No offense, but you really, really do sound like you worship FFXI, or at least are pretty close to it.

Every game has it's flaws. Heck EVERYTHING has flaws. You don't have to make up excuses for what are obvious shortcomings. If you don't care about the shortcomings, good for you. That doesn't mean everybody else has to agree with you or else be branded an Public Enemy of Vanadiel.

Because for years I have been a fan of the game, and not once, not EVER, has any of these review sites, or just people in general given FFXI credit where credit is due. Not once has it received the recognition it deserves for bringing a full MMORPG without cutting any corners to a game console, and not just for PC. It has never gotten any praise from review sites for it's this, or it's impressive cutscenes. I still think the fact that this game can run on PS2 is amazing.

To players who are on PC, sure, FFXI was nothing new. I can understand that, but console gamers, who don't have a PC that can run any games, this was the first of it's kind. And it still is! EQOA doesn't count cause it really is a piss poor watered down MMORPG. But FFXI cuts no corners, and was released in the states for a damn good price for the PS2 compared to the japanese release.

Yet on the other hand, you got WoW. I did play this game, it wasn't my cup of tea, but I still understand why some people like it. They're a fan of the warcraft world, or they like PvP. That's all fine and good. But review sites, DID praise it too friggin much. They reviewed rediculously high for an MMORPG, that truely did not bring anything new to the genre. Easier to solo? Then why play an online rpg in the first place?

FFXI broke some rules, and it has hardcore fans like me because of it. Brought an amazing MMORPG to consoles, and PC gamers alike. It took chances where no one else still has. WoW leeched off what other MMORPGs had already done, and it's treated like the best game ever. The only other MMORPG that I think truely added stuff to the genre besides FFXI, was star wars galaxies. It had loads of flaws, but it added alot of things to the genre that I wish other MMORPGs had. Like player built cities, that was my all time favorite. It was a true community controlled game.

[DakAttack]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

Most people I know in FFXI have the dedication of a fanboy, but don't let that get to their heads. Fanboy carries such a negative meaning because fanboys usually let their love for a game stand in the way of their reasoning. Why are we called fanboys when we argue in favor of one game over another? I've seen this elsewhere and I thought it was clever:

Job: Fanboy
Stats:
Exhaustion Perpetuation Cost: -10
Intellegence: - 50
Cynicism: -20
Enjoyment: +20

Job: Dedicated Player
Stats:
Exhaustion Perpetuation Cost: Varies by Moon Phase
Intellegence: +20
Cynicism: +10
Enjoyment: +10

That's not exactly what they said, but it's how I see it.

[Zaptruder]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

Impaction. I think you say it best yourself.

Fanboys let their love for something stand in the way of reasoning.

You insist in calling me ignorant, with an unholy alliance with the writer of the article, without addressing the actual issues in my argument.
(Just to recap; it is a fair article/criticism given that its judged relative to the X360 and the lack of improvements it brings/takes advantage of).

That is why you are a fanboy; and by your own reckoning, shouldn't be proud to be one.

Because for years I have been a fan of the game, and not once, not EVER, has any of these review sites, or just people in general given FFXI credit where credit is due.

The statement of a fanboy at its truest. Not once? Not ever? Holy jumping jack rabbits, talk about a persecution complex.

[DakAttack]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

Your arguement was something like "lol ffxi graphics suxorz why dent they update fer 360?"

I think I addressed that.

[Zaptruder]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

Your arguement was something like "lol ffxi graphics suxorz why dent they update fer 360?"

I think I addressed that.

You see. That's what your inner fanboy is making you see.

It's quite a stretch from what I'm actually saying.

[Pai Pai Master]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

This argument doesn't really need to go much further.

Either the fanboy bit is ended, or the thread meets its doom.

[Zaptruder]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

I'm not sure why you let it get this far in the first place.

On the same token, it's a little bit counterproductive to let bandwagoning run rampant then start locking things when logic makes people a little flustered isn't it?

I mean, ideally you'd like to create a strong community; and that includes the need for critical thinking.

[Ockman]

Re: It is true, can't spell ignorant without IGN, IGN shows their ignorance about FFXI

Just get outta here Zaptruder, before you kill my topic >_<

EDIT add: Let's keep this topic friendly. You can argue, but don't take it personal. Don't want the topic to die, I like a good argument sometimes, trying to convince people I'm right, and vice versa. Just don't be calling people a fanboy, don't be saying I don't have a life cause I worship FFXI or something. It may seem that way on here, but that's what we're on these forums for! This is a FFXI forum, not a "Life Forum" lol, We all are here cause we like FFXI in one way or another.