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    Hello !

    My friend recently purchased FInal Fantasy and hes currently waiting for it to be delivered. Hes giving me his trial account so rather where waiting for it to be delivered anywho in my boredom i decided id get online make an account and take advantage of your forums to ask some questions.

    First of all my friends tells me a world pass is needed to get on the same server ? aparently you have to buy this.. we where both wondering what this would cost as we intend to be leveling up together. His second question was if making another character on another server costed any extra subscription fees (Note another SERVER where aware that its an extra dollar [i think] to make a second character on the same server).

    Now on to the more important questions.. MY questions ;D.
    After reading a bit on these forums (admittedly not much) im still unsure of what class i should make and what profession i should do.. From what ive been told you can only switch classes around when your hit level 30 so i dont wanna be stuck with something i dont enjoy untill then. I was thinking about Samurai, Summoner or Blackmage if anyone with some extensive knowledge of the afformentioned classes could give me a short and sweet description of Pros/Cons of these classes and why they enjoy that class would be swell.

    As for professions i was wondering if professions are tailored in a way that say, Bone crafting is only good for certain armour types for certain classes.

    Well im off to go watch a movie.. thanks for any assistance your able to give.
    Happy Hunting !

  • #2
    Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

    world pass costs around 1-2k. Easiest way to get the money is, before you leave town, talk to the city guards and get signet. Signet will allow you to gain crystal from enemies you kill. Keep killing for about 30 minutes to 1 hour you should get a full stack or 2 of crystals. Sell them on auction house and you should have the gil.

    In this game we use the term "job." You can actually change it anytime you like as soon as level 1. You will have a selection of 6 starting jobs.
    Upon reaching level 30, you will be able to do quest to get additional advance jobs unlocked.

    As for pro-cons I'm sure there are good threads in the job forum. Try look around there.
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    • #3
      Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

      I'll try to shed a little light on the subject. Here goes.

      If you want a world pass, just go to the server-specific forums and ask there.

      As for the jobs, here are the 6 main jobs you can choose from as a newbie,

      White Mage(whm)-Basically, your main priority is to heal people, and cast cool spells like protect, which increases defense and shell, which increases magic defense, plus many enfeebling spells. In the later levels (37 and 38 i think), you'll get teleport spells, which can basically instantaneously teleport to one of the many crags in vana'diel. If you choose a whm, you will have no difficulty finding a party. Downside is less hp

      Black Mage (blm)- Basically, black mages main priority is to give damage on demand. They are very sought out after, and the damage is very nice ^^. There are many cool spells. The main type of spells you will be using is elemental spells:fire, ice, water. etc. What's great is that just about every monster has a weakness, so if you have the right spell, you can exploit it ^^ There are also enfeebling spells that weaken the enemy. In the higher levels, you can get warp and warp II, which teleports you to your last home point. Downside is less hp

      Red Mage- This class is seen as a little bit of everything. Not only do you have whm and blm spells, but you can use nicer weapons and wear stronger armor. It's an excellant support class overall. You'll never have a hard time finding a party.

      Monk-Monks have a lot of hp and deal a ton of damage. Downside is that armor is not as good as other classes. If you wanna be a tank, monk is probably not the wisest choice

      Warrior-Warriors can equip nice armor, and also can equip some of the best weapons the game has to offer. They also have the ability to provoke, which allows a person to steer the monster's-aggresion away from his/her party members to him/her. Warriors tend to be the leaders of parties, and organize much that goes into making parties.

      Thief-Thieves are very agile when it comes to fighting monsters. If you like hunting for treasure, this is the job for you. At level 15 and 45, you can get treasure hunter I and II, which increases the drop rates on rare finds off notorious monsters in the game. A downside is that thieves are looked upon as being light tanks who can't take the damage as well as other people.

      Focus on these 6 jobs, and when you find what you're interested in, worry about the lvl 30 jobs. Hope this helped ^^
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      • #4
        Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

        Thankyou both for your quickly replys. Some info on professions is needed still.
        And another question. I read somwhere in the forums that summoners are great for dps but you should play white mage first. Why not black (which wouldve been my original plan) and anyone care to give me a run down of the summoner and samurai classes (so if i like how they sound i can choose a starting class to back them up) thankums

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        • #5
          Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

          profession you mean crafting? Crafting is a really big thing in thie game and you should understand the game's economy and market before you go serious into them.

          For starter, try either fishing, cooking or alchemy just to understand how they work. Don't make any hard decision yet until you know more about the game. Remember, you can train multiple crafts in this game.
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          • #6
            Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

            summoner is typically played as a healer/backup healer in exp parties (not as a damage dealer). if you sub blm, the weakened blm spells lose too much power to be usefulwhen cast from a subjob. healing spells, on the other hand, don't lose much power when cast from a subjob and summoner has a TON of mp.

            samurai specializes at creating skillchains. i reccomend you play another job first, to learn how skillchains work, before playing samurai. samurai is also a rather expensive job to play i hear.

            both of these questions, however, are better to be directed towards the associated job forums.

            and as for crafting, i stroooongly reccomend you don't start crafting until you get at least one job to level 50+ or so. to make money, sell the items you find on the auction house. crafting typically loses more money than it makes skilling up until the higher levels.

            and some advise on a starting job: war is, imo, the best starting job. it's easy to level, it has no problem finding pt's, and most melee jobs use it as their primary subjob, so sooner or later, you'll have to level it anyway.
            if you plan to play a mage, white mage is the best sub for nearly any mage, but levelling white mage to level 10 is slow if you don't know what you're doing. Red mage, i think, makes an excellent first job if you want to be a mage. you'll have to go back and level a sub later though.

            sub jobs will become available to you starting at level 18.
            Last edited by aegina; 12-06-2005, 04:30 AM.


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            • #7
              Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

              Here is some info-> Play what you want, but make sure you arent the same class, that makes PTs very hard to form ( except maybe 2 wars early on )
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              • #8
                Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

                The usuall that i had seen when i first stated was either White mage, Monk, or Warrior. I started off as a Warrior because i wanted to prepare for Paladin. Btw Paladin is awesome
                Good luck with whatever you do. Oh while your lvling check your "Region Info" often. There are points in the bottom right called Conquest points. You have to have Signet to get Conquest Points. Once you have 1000 points talk to a Grand Gaurd. They are the gaurds close to town Exits that have 2 initials after their name (i.e. Iron Fist I.W.). You need to use those 1000 Conquest Points to buy an Empress Band. The Band gives you plus 50% exp with every kill! It's very nice to have!
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                • #9
                  Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

                  Originally posted by MrScribble
                  Hello !

                  My friend recently purchased FInal Fantasy and hes currently waiting for it to be delivered. Hes giving me his trial account so rather where waiting for it to be delivered anywho in my boredom i decided id get online make an account and take advantage of your forums to ask some questions.

                  First of all my friends tells me a world pass is needed to get on the same server ? aparently you have to buy this.. we where both wondering what this would cost as we intend to be leveling up together. His second question was if making another character on another server costed any extra subscription fees (Note another SERVER where aware that its an extra dollar [i think] to make a second character on the same server).

                  Now on to the more important questions.. MY questions ;D.
                  After reading a bit on these forums (admittedly not much) im still unsure of what class i should make and what profession i should do.. From what ive been told you can only switch classes around when your hit level 30 so i dont wanna be stuck with something i dont enjoy untill then. I was thinking about Samurai, Summoner or Blackmage if anyone with some extensive knowledge of the afformentioned classes could give me a short and sweet description of Pros/Cons of these classes and why they enjoy that class would be swell.

                  As for professions i was wondering if professions are tailored in a way that say, Bone crafting is only good for certain armour types for certain classes.

                  Well im off to go watch a movie.. thanks for any assistance your able to give.
                  Happy Hunting !
                  I would suggest starting out at a whm, it is hard in the beginning to lvl up depending on the type of style you have ^.^ but after you hit like lvl 10 people will start to ask you to pt with them (pt= join party) and lvling will go a lot smoother, and yes world pass's do cost money but in order for it to cost to make a character is if you dont have a content ID to start it out on, other than that it will cost 1.00 USD as far as I know.

                  Oh and goodluck, if you end up in my server feel free to ask me for help ^^
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                  • #10
                    Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

                    Crafting should not be undertaken by anyone who's starting this game for the first time. It would be easier to focus on getting enough gil to upgrade your equipment and weapons and buying spells. First off, here are a few things that will consume much of your first month in the game, assuming you play a normal 20 to 30 hours a week schedule (Norm for "casual" players)
                    1. Getting to level 18.
                    2. At level 18, you will undergo a quest, which can be taken up either in Mhaura (Seaport Town in Buburimu Peninsula) or Selbina (Seaport Town in Valkurm Desert) This quest will allow you to obtain the ability to have a subjob or secondary job to your main job class.
                    3. Focus on leveling your subjob or secondary job to always be equivalent to half the level of your main job class. It is fairly easy to pick a first job class that may become your subjob class so that you will not have to worry about leveling it for some time after.
                    4. Obtain at miminum Rank 2 in your nation.
                    5. Sell everything on the AH, unless the items you receive can be used to complete quests you can get around the world. Check numerous database online to find quests and read up on the requirements to complete them.
                    6. Once you have a properly leveled subjob, work your way to level 20+
                    7. Head to the large city of Jeuno. You should go with a group of other players or kindly ask for the assistance of more seasoned travelers to escort you and your friend.
                    8. Start up Chocobo license quest. This quest will take about 4-5 IRL hours to complete. You can complete this quest over a succession of several days if time constraint is an issue.
                    9. As you're working on the Chocobo quest, seek for an exp party on the Island of Qufim. Explore the large city of Jeuno. Knowledge of NPCs and various points of interest in the city will help you immensely since you will spend the majority of your career here.
                    10. As you progress in levels and your party knowledge increases, start working on missions from your home country. At around level 25, you should try to attain Rank 3.
                    11. Continue to level up your main job class and subjob class if needed. Remember, it is imperative that you have a properly leveled subjob in order to maximize your main job class potential.
                    12. At around level 30, you may start to explore crafting options as well as work on obtaining various advanced job classes. This is where many players will take the time off leveling and instead start to really explore their world. Considered the first "halfway" point in your career in the game.
                    Pretty much will sum up many player's first month in the game. After this, pretty much everyone will deviate and do their own thing. Others might crafts for months on end while their peers zoom up in levels and heavily exp. What you do is totally up to you and this game offers numerous opportunities to do so.

                    More importantly, have fun while you engage with other players in a responsible manner.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

                      Eh, I jumped into crafts pretty early on, it's not too bad really if you use the time well and don't try to push your skill up too far.

                      Fishing is excellent to start with. See if you can find a cook to make Insect Balls for you. Moat Carp went for 5k/stack when I started, it's up to 10k/stack now. If you break your rod, sell it on the AH, woodworkers can skill on repairing broken rods.

                      As a Bastokan, I took up both Goldsmithing and Smithing. Smithing seems to be doing better now. The moneymaker here is Bronze Ingot. You can get the ores from the guild shop. 1x Tin, 3x Copper. Alchemy isn't too bad either, particularly if you plan to solo lizards.

                      Gardening has been a godsend though, as I've often been too busy to do more than check plants. Do research before trying this, though, or it could wind up as an expense instead of an investment. Pikko Pots is a good place to start.
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                      • #12
                        Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

                        Thankyou for all your great advice everyone. Unfortunatley im still at a loss of which class to play but i have got a better idea now, as for crafting i suppose ill take up fishing and if it becomes to much of a drain on my gil ill drop it.

                        Thanks again for your speedy replys, your advice has helped alot see you in the game soon hopefully !

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                        • #13
                          Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

                          Originally posted by Lunaryn
                          Eh, I jumped into crafts pretty early on, it's not too bad really if you use the time well and don't try to push your skill up too far.
                          Most of the crafts at low level benefit primarily from being able to farm the materials yourself. Having to either buy them from the guild and/or subject yourself to the whims of AH isn't feasible at best and is foolhardy to say the least.

                          Better time and gil is spent on good equipment and weapons early on. Once you can get an equilibrium and knowledge of many zones, you'll be able to farm efficiently and with a higher level job class that won't produce too much downtime. Ergo, it's better to farm Giddeus lower area with a level 30 job class versus a level 15 one ...

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                          • #14
                            Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

                            I would suggest starting out at a whm, it is hard in the beginning to lvl up depending on the type of style you have ^.^ but after you hit like lvl 10 people will start to ask you to pt with them (pt= join party) and lvling will go a lot smoother
                            I would agree with this back in the day... however nowadays it's hard to get a pt in dunes thanks to all the PL's there... seems like WHM is hardly needed in dunes these days because most pt's bring a PL along so they go for all dd.

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                            • #15
                              Re: 2 Nub's Needing Advice

                              PL = Power Leveling ?
                              and also nobodey answered my earlier question about wether some types of crafting are suited to a particular Job and/or equipment type (ie weapons/armour/ect)
                              Thanks

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