2 Nub's Needing Advice

[bikkebakke]

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PL does mean power leveling, and sure certain crafts can benefit certain jobs better... like clothecrafting for mages and what not.

[aegina]

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Most of the crafts at low level benefit primarily from being able to farm the materials yourself. Having to either buy them from the guild and/or subject yourself to the whims of AH isn't feasible at best and is foolhardy to say the least.

>.> you would make more money if you just sold the raw materials on the ah. crafting loses money most of the time, even if you farm.

and also nobodey answered my earlier question about wether some types of crafting are suited to a particular Job and/or equipment type (ie weapons/armour/ect)
Thanks

if you are going to play a mage, cooking is good. make your own fruit-type juices in the field. the various fruit juices recover mp, and the ingredients stack pretty well. if you are going to play a ranger, woodworking is good for you. make your own arrows. aside from these two, i can't think of any craft that really goes well with any job...

[MrScribble]

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Again some good advice, if somone could lay out which crafts are good for certain equipment/classes

Aswell, if i where to lean towards a damage dealing class (preferably caster to better compliment my friend) what would be your advice on what to choose.

I was told summoners can do alot of damage but will be healing alot (because wht mage/red mage seem to be the only acceptable subs for summoner if i want to be pt'ing). Unlike some i dont really have the... hmm.. well i dont have whatever it is that allows people to do and enjoy being a healer , i dont have a problem with perhaps picking up the slack if a main healer ran out of mp or healing every now and then. But i dont tihnk id enjoy doing it full time.

[aegina]

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what crafts are good? none, really lol.

cooking can be good for white mages (make your own juices to recover mp.) woodworking is good for rangers( make your own arrows,) but you'll spend more skilling up woodworking than you will ever save unless you take ranger all the way to 75, and make ALL your own arrows and bolts.

other than that, i don't recomend you start any craft until you get at least one job to level 50, if then. crafting is basically a bottomless moneysink until the higher levels.

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and if you don't want to be a healer, don't play a summoner. a summoner's primay role in a pt is to main heal, aka we-couldnt-find-a-white-mage-so-we-invited-you. almost every pt invite you recieve as a summoner will be asking you to be the main healer, and if you say you won't main heal, either they will have to kick you and find a healer, or else give up trying to build a party and disband.

the only true dd-mage is black mage, i think, but blm sounds perfect for you. blm is one of the best damage dealers in the game, and when the main healer is low on mp, you will pick up the slack and help cure just like you said, but you don't main heal all the time.

[Jei]

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I don't think mages benefits more from cloth craft at all. Unless you get it all the way to 100 and shoot for a lucky -1 curse stuff. Almost every gear you can craft from cloth craft, are a lost. You only make them to get skill and you throw away money along the process. This is almost same with every craft, you make items at lost to skill up. Along the way you will find some profitable syn to make money with. But those definitely are not what you will be using for yourself.

Apart from cooking to make juice, there's no real craft associate to job imo.

[=Tuyen=]

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I don't think mages benefits more from cloth craft at all. Unless you get it all the way to 100 and shoot for a lucky -1 curse stuff. Almost every gear you can craft from cloth craft, are a lost. You only make them to get skill and you throw away money along the process. This is almost same with every craft, you make items at lost to skill up. Along the way you will find some profitable syn to make money with. But those definitely are not what you will be using for yourself.

Apart from cooking to make juice, there's no real craft associate to job imo.

Well actually cloth crafting can be of benefit, you may throw away money along the way but in the end it all pays off, making the ceremonail dress, boots, and hairpin are worth a fortune and people are always looking for it ^^

[aegina]

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Well actually cloth crafting can be of benefit, you may throw away money along the way but in the end it all pays off, making the ceremonail dress, boots, and hairpin are worth a fortune and people are always looking for it ^^

not until the extreme higher levels of crafting.

for a rank 1 player with no subjob, crafting is really a waste of money...

[=Tuyen=]

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yea I see what you mean, but isnt it worth lvl'ing to reek the benefits of the future, >.< I havent even started lol and hear I am preaching about it xD

[aegina]

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i'm saying, don't start crafting until you're level 50, at least. until then, you can't afford it unless you buy gil online. (or spend insane mmounts of time trying to get gil to afford it)

the higher level you are the easier it is to make money, and the easier it ias to take up crafting.

[=Tuyen=]

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lol yea I know xD I never even started crafting yet and I probably will only do cloth crafting for the benefit of my whm.

[aegina]

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i took up cooking and woodworking. cooking saved me money (because i was able to make juices for less than buying them on the ah. i skilled up on making those juices, and i bought most of my ingredients from npc's.) cooking, however, doesn't really make you much money.

i also took up woodworking. woodworking may have saved me a tiny bit of money on some arows, but the sheer volume of cash it took to level it to that point is far greater than any i'll save off it anytime soon. and woodworking is one of the CHEAPER crafts to level >< i have never seen a bigger waste of time and money as the crafting system in ffxi.

if you haven't even tried crafting, please don't recomend it to others. crafting is a waste of moneyespecially at the low levels. the cost of the crystals alone can kill youir bank lol.

and don't say "farm your ingredients." if you farm your ingredients, then just sell the ingedients, you'll make more money than if you crafted them and sold the crafted goods.

fishing is a much better way to make gil at low levels, as is gardening. crafting is a gilsink

[=Tuyen=]

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I guess so, but I am not even going to start to craft untill I atleast reach lvl 50 then I can afford the materials, and as far as making equipment/armor you can get a lot of gil for that, I saw in the ah a piece of body armor sold for 20,000,000 gil of course it was in jeuno xD but it still sold.

[MrScribble]

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Gardening isnt a drain on your money ??, cause i was thinking about taking it up.

[aegina]

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gardening is a good way to make money at lower levels, yes.

[x1ang]

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^ no thank you son... go advertise somewhere else -__-


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gardening needs to be pretty well planned out, otherwise it can result in quite a big loss. even worse is if the gardening doesn't come out the plan and you've waited many days, it'll make you want to take a break from ffxi for a while.

let's say you grow ores. they take ~20 real life days to grow and generally you'll get 1/10 pots (3+ if things go perfect), but the investment is 400k (on midgard) and there's always the /random involved in gardening that you'll reap 0/10 ores per pot - which is a pretty big loss considering it takes 400k+20RL days (time is money). plus, during those 20 days you have to dedicate yourself to examing the plants on certain days, etc etc.

but the profit is pretty good if things go well (200~300k for the first ore, 600~700k for each additional - per sapling stacks that is). so it's you're choice whether or not you want to take the risk ^_^