Treasures of Aht Urhgan: A Wealth of New Content!

[tazirai]

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Spoilers ROZ to COP

Would you rather call it a direct continuation? Read that page.. then read the next...

mind if I qoute myself?

The MOST important Building so far in FFXI is Delkfutts Tower...

well I can tell you this . If you Finish the Ziraat missions Promathia takes place maybe 30 minutes to one day later after Zeid and aldo leaves tulia

How do you know? From what I've seen, Lion screwing with Tu'Lia's core and the explosion in Delkfutt's are totally different things. And Aldo hasn't made any reference to the incidents of RoTZ in his appearences yet either.

Just by putting two and 2 together.

my first clue was something S-E said when promathia first came out That you didnt need Ziraat to enjoy promathia but that you would get more out of it if youhave it.

2nd clue was after the Battle with Jueno King and how Elda narche opens the nexus and goes to Tulia directly from delkfutts to further his goals.

3rd clue as that delkfutt being a focal point to tulia from vanadiel.

4th was what the Dawn maiden said when me aldo and zeid went to Tulia.

5th was after the defeat of the kid and Lions subsequent sacrifice to stop "us" from harming Vanadiel.

6th was what the tonberry king says at the end of the ziraat missions.

Also after the ziraat missions they end in Tulia but yo ucan speak to aldo afterwards for an interesting cutscene.

Next was the appearance of elda narche during the promyvion missions in a flash back.

after i forget which Promathia mission
Nag molada and eshta narl are talking about the current state of Jueno and how it needs leadership more than ever, with the loss of you know who.

the biggest clue however is the opening cutscene that takes place at delkfutts and the fact the the crystal line focuses on delkfutts tower.
theres a couple quests that you do during and before promahtia is released explaining this.

It also ties into the dragoon job quest and why the egg is planted there in meriphtaud.


Theres more clues but ill let you figure those ones hehe

Well it's never stated that they're specifically talking about Kam'lanut (though it is very likely). They could be talking about the Cardinal for all we know. But anyway if CoP takes place after RoTZ, then why isn't completing RoTZ necessary to start it?

because of the way promathia missions start, You dont need previous knowledge of Ziraat missions to get right into it. But if you have done them then its more enjoyable because you can make the same correlations I did.

So what square did was basically divide FFXI into Novels and then tell them in a way that people dont feel left out.

Sound like direct link to me ^^

[ruffrydasean]

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/bow
thank you

[tazirai]

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/bow
thank you

NP and dont be surprised if These characters play a part in the next expansion.

Tenshodo
Aldo
Gilgamesh
A certain tavnazian Safehold NPC with no memory
Tenzen, in later missions.
cornelia
A new star sybil
Trions ascension
The Avatars of the "Far East"

[Caspian]

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So what square did was basically divide FFXI into Novels and then tell them in a way that people dont feel left out.

I havent done either the RoZ or CoP missions yet, but from what I've read you could explain that like this: (basing this off one of my favorite book series)
You dont have to read the Hobbit to understand and enjoy The Lord of the Rings. Theres only a couple characters that are in both books, but you can fully comprehend and enjoy the latter w/o having read the former. Now, most ppl have read both, and not just the LotR, but a lot of people have seen only the movies and have not seen the Hobbit, but they totally enjoyed. Aside from talking about Bilbo getting the ring from Gollum I cant recall any events from the Hobbit being retold. Moreso, even fewer people have probably read the Simarillion which gives a LOT of backstory and really makes you go "Oh, WOW thats how it happened." Not having read Simarillion doesnt detract any from understanding LotR, but DOES make the experience even more enjoyable. I would go so far as to say that having the same characters playing roles in both storylines does create a direct correlation b/w the two. I suppose the same metaphor could be used with the two Star Wars trilogies.
I dunno, just my thoughts.

[Alucath]

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Yeah, they way they're connected is pretty indirect if you ask me. Direct is what I would call the correlation between Windurst mission 7-1 and 7-2 . Oh well, kind of a lame little arguement to fill up the ToAU thread >.>.

OMGZ LVL 40 BUM LFG!

[tazirai]

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Yeah, they way they're connected is pretty indirect if you ask me. Direct is what I would call the correlation between Windurst mission 7-1 and 7-2 . Oh well, kind of a lame little arguement to fill up the ToAU thread >.>.

OMGZ LVL 40 BUM LFG!

Blu-Bum Get it right,^^

EVen the nation misisons were planned out in chapters, liek a novel.

ALL 3 Nation mission series. are described as such

M1-12 (All nations) Introduction of the main World StoryLine, Which is basically the Prelude to Promathia.

Rank 1-Rank 6 Allow Players to Discover their Home nations and Explore the relations of the 3 nations In regard to the After Affects of the Crystal War.
It tells how each nation was apart of the overall story, and leads to the defeat of the Shadowlord.

Ziraat M1-M4 We are introduced to the Coming of the Former Ancients known as the Ziraat.

Zm first 3 Chapters We learn that the Guy who helped lead the 3 nations to victory was actually an asshat, And that he intends to Open the gate of the gods, like a dork.

Rao grimm's Spirit Goes to Dynamis, More of which we'll learn later

Zm4 we Are tested by the Tonberry King and given a vision of whats to come if the Ziraat have their way.

Rank6-10 Are the NATION ONLY misisons, These deal with the aftermath of the Shadowlord. Thes missions tell the immediate threats and futures of said nations.

Bastok- Deals with the racism and schism between the Galka and Humes and the Return of the fated talekeeper. We learn of the Galka Homeland and the Antican's whom forced them out. The End of the mission series gives us a hint of whats to come from Cornelia.

Sandoria-Deals With The Betrayals and Deceit of the Church and the crown. It tells of Tavnazia and its fall. It tells of the Destiny of Sandoria and trions future ascension. The evil of the orcs and it also Includes Kam the Nut for his involvement with Lightbringer.

Windurst-Deals With The Avatar Fenrir, the Cardian joker, The Kuluu Who we meet in Zm4, The star Sybils fate, And the Summoner that set everything in motion. Windurst deals with the pact of the tonberry and tarutaru. The Star onions and Joker. The deal struct with the Yagudo after the war.

Zm5+ Deal with the Quest to Stop Kam the nut from Openieng th egate of the Gods into Paradise.

Promathia Deals with the "curse" of Promathia and the repurcusions of the Ziraat as they tried to open the gate.
Delkfutts is s focal point and the backsurge of energy helps to release the emptiness and bahamut returns.

We learn that Diabolos the Avatar of Dreams Created Dynamis as an escape for th People Of Vanadiel.

Dynamis. We rescue Raogrimms spirit but he remians in dynamis with his friends.


EVERYTHING IS directly linked.. BUT you dont need past knowledge to enjoy the storyline, You just wont have the full understanding.

It sliek in windurst how the Star Onion series of quests/missions really, Are linked to windurst Misisons and the Fenrir BCNM.

You could finish any of the 3 and enjoy it, but its fully enjoyed if you follow the full storyline and sub plots.

[Blood Red Poet]

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One "problem" about FFXI's story that it doesn't really have a 'timeline' once reach the present, meaning people can't be two places at once. I doubt there will be a new Star Sybil because Windurst missions will exist, however if they add more nation missions(rank 10+) it would make slightly more sense.

[JamesX]

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All the stories are related. I don't think most of them fit the description of "Directly" linked.

Directly Linked is more like A caused B to happen.

Related is A and B share some timeline but otherwise are parallel stories.

[tazirai]

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All the stories are related. I don't think most of them fit the description of "Directly" linked.

Directly Linked is more like A caused B to happen.

Related is A and B share some timeline but otherwise are parallel stories.

Shadowlord dies>Kam the nut(comes out of the closet) tries to open gate..fails> Older brother tries to open gate..fails>lion "dies" saving the world>Backflow of energy goes into delkfutt>bahamut awakens>Defeat of Promathia> Far East Declares war on Jueno>Treasures of Aht Urhgan?

[Tokitoki]

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That sounds like a direct relation to me, although I didnt know the last part of that but Id find out eventually i guess >.>

[Blood Red Poet]

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Shadowlord dies>Kam the nut(comes out of the closet) tries to open gate..fails> Older brother tries to open gate..fails>lion "dies" saving the world>Backflow of energy goes into delkfutt>bahamut awakens>Defeat of Promathia> Far East Declares war on Jueno>Treasures of Aht Urhgan?

The whole thing about FFXI is that... CoP could of happened before RoZ. It never directly tells you "The price activated Tu'Lia and so this crap is happening". SE made it so time never passes, every expansion pack begins at the same time and are only sequals in the order you play them in. It wouldn't surprise me Tenzen is only mentioned by word, if at all... because while you are there, he is here... and while you are here and the emptiness is over there. Its incomplete but it lets new people understand it, SE only hints at the chronological order of the story, never says it.

[IamNate]

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sorry, gotta ask.. Far East declares war on Jeuno.. did I miss some sort of tension in the CoP cutscenes between Tenzen and Jeuno?

[Blain]

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I just want to say this to Spazz

You are exactly right, even though ive only played the game for about a year now and am just lvl 61 i have been called one of the best PLDs on the game(not to make myself look better or anything like that) and not for any other reason but just because i get along with others and (Being a pld) am not afraid to die more then once or twice in a pt.

And it does suck when higher lvl ppl are all stuck up just because they have all +1 stuff or for whatever reason they deem right. You are a good player no matter what your lvl. Its your personality that makes you a good player and how well you interact with others and cooperate, and not just say that a PT has to be a certain. Be open minded to new ways of doing things.

And for me, I am looking forward to all of the missions and areas and job(s).

[Alucath]

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Blu-Bum Get it right,^^

Oh I've got it right. :O BUM is just so much awesomer than BLU that I dont' really care what the official acronym will be. I'll still be a bum at heart ^^.

[IamNate]

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Yanno, had a thought about this.

RotZ and CoP has been a united story, more or less, that revolves around the 5 races of the planet. This isnt a spoiler for all of those who might think of it, its pretty obvious that everything revolves around the five races. Anyways--What would stop SE from creating a brand new race altogether, a new 'world', a place that the rest of the world doesnt know existed and to go along with it, a new race? Not sure what they'd wanna use, I mean in high fantasy settings, there's tons and tons of options left availble. Trolls, Drawves, various species of Elven kind left, Halfings, etc.

Thoughts?