Shiva Claim Bot

[Ghostraven]

Originally posted by CarbonFibre
Lol what if they made you play tetra master to see who gets claim? Then we'd all be screwed. :p

LMAO

[JP_Ikari]

Good read. Lots of great ideas and counter ideas. I was thinking of the ENM/BCNM type of deal, but again Kuu pointed out about the time limit. This is very hard to think about really. Whenever you think of an idea there's always a counter againts it. Safest route is BCNM/ENM type of deal, but how are they going to regulate it? Cause i think that's always going to be dominated by the high end crew LS's (Have crews of 18 people and just farm that specific BCNM/ENM every week depending on how much time limit you're given and manipulate it that way) and leaving the new or up and coming LS's to just dream and hope that the other LS's start to move on. We'll always find people getting frustrated one way or another. All we can do now is really just sit back and watch. Hope SE does something about it, til then we can't do anything but try and beat them.

JP

[Jei]

that tetramaster idea.... is really neat.... win minigame to claim HNM >.< no more bot.

[Balodoth]

Is there really any reason we can't implement all of these instead of picking one? Make some hostile environments where you can live if you aren't AFK. Make some anti-claim for a few seconds with a lottery claim. Make some puzzles. Make some key items with auto-claim. Odds of drops in inverse proportion to time spent camping in the last week. For some regular NM's it can spawn under the regular name then change once claimed. (Note on this one, it would have to do a level check to stay a normal mob if claimed by a person actually trying to EXP.)

Varying it would actually be a great idea because it would be nearly impossible to create such a versatile bot. Plus S-E could randomly switch some of the background factors. Go from a lottery claim to a morph-spawn to a puzzle claim, so on and so forth. More importantly, this would allow S-E to unofficially combat unfair campers/gilsellers/botters/etc. While integrating the official measures they could add an update that gives the server more control over who gets/keeps the claim, meaning people who haven't camped it recently or people actually near the level to use the equipment have a better chance, whereas people there for the past 48 hours or who just got a great drop are at a disadvantage, for the drop too if they still manage to claim it.

Yes, something like this could work against us, but I believe it would be a blessing in disguise. Sooner or later people abusing HNM's and such would get the hint and scale back their operation. For those of us bent on getting that awesome drop without paying through the nose for it, after a camping a long time we might decide to go do something else to reset our odds and actually enjoy ourselves as opposed to blaming the botters/gilsellers/etc. who make parts of our game a chore.

[fuz]

The way SE is going, they might make an ENM/BCNM/yadda-yadda-yadda... for every item dropped by highly camped hnm/god/nm.

People want instanced battles that they can schedule the whole LS to fight at one set date. Some of us just can't play for 12 hours a day. Even though I've been playing for 2+ years, I don't have a decent chance at any uber equips.

I really think that SE hasn't done enough to offset the large (and still growing) populations on the servers.

[Faranim]

All they really need to do is add another way to get Abjurations. I would imagine that 90%+ of the people who camp Nidhogg, KB, and Aspi do it for the Body Abjurations. Most (if not all) of their other drops are just a bonus for the time you spend. (exceptions are Defending Ring, Pixie Earring, Ridill).

Regardless, if they added ENMs that can drop Abjuration, less people would camp the Kings so everyone would benefit.

The only problem is that ENM is specifically a CoP feature, while Abjurations are exclusive to RoZ. So I don't think there's anything they can do about it besides change the spawn system for mobs.

There was a brief time period where mobs would spawn purple, or spawn dead, and it seemed to have strange effects on bots. I'm sure they have the ability to make some sort of "grace period" system like people have suggested. They only way they actually will is if a large number of customers request it by sending in suggestion e-mails.

[Sepukku]

Who cares if they exclude each other in that possibility? RoZ and CoP should be dependant for several reasons:
A.) If you're the level you can use Abjurations, shame on you for not having both expansions.
B.) If you have put in the time and effort to get a job to 70+, chances are you're not a 14 year old and you can afford and would be willing to buy a $30 expansion back.
C.) SE Makes more money if they make them dependant on each other, and Im sure SE doesnt mind more money.

[Stanislav]

This bot is definitely beatable, but probably not by other NA.

Not gonna lie here, got sick of JP controlling Nidhogg on Hades so we decided to get someone with the bot to log on and try pull for us... Well he lost.. Maybe it was bad luck and it was a loss on Fafnir, gonna try again..

The point is your not gonna win vs these JP on our server unless you fight fire with fire... It just happens that their fire is stronger.

Hades Claim Log

Fafnir - 30? Because our JP dont really camp fafnir, sometimes they do and have beat them several times but that was complete luck, loosing 20 pulls to win 1 seems like crap.
Nidhogg - 1
King Behemoth - 1
Aspidochelone - 7

Since creation of server... shit or what?

[Stanislav]

Lost pull again.. lol What's left todo when NA cant even win with a packet bot -.-?

[Asharu]

Re: Shiva Claim Bot

All they really need to do is add another way to get Abjurations. I would imagine that 90%+ of the people who camp Nidhogg, KB, and Aspi do it for the Body Abjurations. Most (if not all) of their other drops are just a bonus for the time you spend. (exceptions are Defending Ring, Pixie Earring, Ridill).

Regardless, if they added ENMs that can drop Abjuration, less people would camp the Kings so everyone would benefit.

True dat. If abjurations could drop from another source, ground HNM would really become obsolete (at least Fafnir/Nid and Adman/Aspid). I'm sure King Behemoth would still be camped pretty heavily for Pixie Earring, Defending Ring, and Shining Cloths. Ridil is pretty rare and I doubt entire LS's would camp that day after day for a Ridil drop, especially if you don't have a job that can use it.

SE could have came up with a solution to this a long time ago. The fact that they don't do anything about this issue makes me frustrated and annoyed.