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  • #46
    lol right..
    well I don't know how it'll turn out..

    only think I know for sure..
    if you do the 3 quests for the galka near cid you get to name an airship, which appears in PM5...
    which is very cool ^^

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    • #47
      Notice that when the explosion occurs in Delkfutt's Tower in the first Promathia Mission, it's the "Northen Line" that's causing the energy. I'm pretty sure if the energy had come from Tu'Lia the scientists would have said something differently. So that leads me to think that CoP and RoTZ are completely seperate.

      Anyway what do we know about the Northern Crag? Well for
      one it was pretty much destroyed by the Kuluu... and what else is there, Pso'Xja and the entrance to Dynamis. As well as Diabolos...

      Perhaps the Emptiness was called into the world by Diabolos in an attempt to cause more people to enter Dynamis, and therefore become his servants? Just a thought.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by CRtwenty
        Notice that when the explosion occurs in Delkfutt's Tower in the first Promathia Mission, it's the "Northen Line" that's causing the energy. I'm pretty sure if the energy had come from Tu'Lia the scientists would have said something differently. So that leads me to think that CoP and RoTZ are completely seperate.

        Anyway what do we know about the Northern Crag? Well for
        one it was pretty much destroyed by the Kuluu... and what else is there, Pso'Xja and the entrance to Dynamis. As well as Diabolos...

        Perhaps the Emptiness was called into the world by Diabolos in an attempt to cause more people to enter Dynamis, and therefore become his servants? Just a thought.
        well I can tell you this . If you Finish the Ziraat missions Promathia takes place maybe 30 minutes to one day later after Zeid and aldo leaves tulia
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        • #49
          How do you know? From what I've seen, Lion screwing with Tu'Lia's core and the explosion in Delkfutt's are totally different things. And Aldo hasn't made any reference to the incidents of RoTZ in his appearences yet either.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by CRtwenty
            How do you know? From what I've seen, Lion screwing with Tu'Lia's core and the explosion in Delkfutt's are totally different things. And Aldo hasn't made any reference to the incidents of RoTZ in his appearences yet either.
            Just by putting two and 2 together.

            my first clue was something S-E said when promathia first came out That you didnt need Ziraat to enjoy promathia but that you would get more out of it if youhave it.

            2nd clue was after the Battle with Jueno King and how Elda narche opens the nexus and goes to Tulia directly from delkfutts to further his goals.

            3rd clue as that delkfutt being a focal point to tulia from vanadiel.

            4th was what the Dawn maiden said when me aldo and zeid went to Tulia.

            5th was after the defeat of the kid and Lions subsequent sacrifice to stop "us" from harming Vanadiel.

            6th was what the tonberry king says at the end of the ziraat missions.

            Also after the ziraat missions they end in Tulia but yo ucan speak to aldo afterwards for an interesting cutscene.

            Next was the appearance of elda narche during the promyvion missions in a flash back.

            after i forget which Promathia mission
            Nag molada and eshta narl are talking about the current state of Jueno and how it needs leadership more than ever, with the loss of you know who.

            the biggest clue however is the opening cutscene that takes place at delkfutts and the fact the the crystal line focuses on delkfutts tower.
            theres a couple quests that you do during and before promahtia is released explaining this.

            It also ties into the dragoon job quest and why the egg is planted there in meriphtaud.


            Theres more clues but ill let you figure those ones hehe
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            • #51
              Nag'molada: What has become of Bahamut?

              Esha'ntarl: It seems he has transported himself elsewhere. But I believe he will
              return to that land. It is woven into the destiny of his kind.

              Nag'molada: . . .

              Esha'ntarl: But more importantly, Nag'molada, why did you go there? Was there
              something you wished to dicuss with Bahamut alone? It was thanks to you that
              Bahamut slipped through our fingers.

              Nag'molada: Are you concerned because I am Kuluu? Can you still not accept
              the fact that your people have fallen as far as mine? Your stance is foolish,
              given that this obstinacy is proof of your degradation.

              Esha'ntarl: I am not concerned for you. What concerns me is the welfare of the
              people living in this world of Vana'diel.

              Nag'molada: Is that so? Now that a certain personage has left this world, I
              wouldn't think there would be time for you to be concerned with others.


              Esha'ntarl: You speak of your own shortcomings, Nag'molada. You have failed three
              times. The issues concerning the boy must be resolved.

              Nag'molada: Do not worry. I know how to deal with him. And I have an idea on
              how to contain the Emptiness, as well.
              Well it's never stated that they're specifically talking about Kam'lanut (though it is very likely). They could be talking about the Cardinal for all we know. But anyway if CoP takes place after RoTZ, then why isn't completing RoTZ necessary to start it?
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              • #52
                Originally posted by CRtwenty
                Well it's never stated that they're specifically talking about Kam'lanut (though it is very likely). They could be talking about the Cardinal for all we know. But anyway if CoP takes place after RoTZ, then why isn't completing RoTZ necessary to start it?

                because of the way promathia missions start, You dont need previous knowledge of Ziraat missions to get right into it. But if you have done them then its more enjoyable because you can make the same correlations I did.

                So what square did was basically divide FFXI into Novels and then tell them in a way that people dont feel left out.
                It's Official Promathia Hates me....
                それは公式である,プロマシア は私を憎む。
                Trielは博雅なる大召喚士
                A Summoners Journey (The Live Journal) >>>> A Summoners Journey the Movie

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                • #53
                  It does seem a little odd though, that despite the fact that Esha'ntarl seems to know of the deaths of Archduke Kam'lanut, and Eald'narche. That she doesn't realize that it was your character that was responsible for it...
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                  • #54
                    How could she? No one else was there when both of them died.

                    Next was the appearance of elda narche during the promyvion missions in a flash back.
                    This what got me started on the "Eld = mystery boy" idea. Look at my sig.... that is when he is defeated... You can seem him turning white. She(Dawnmaiden) says "It is time for you to take a new form"(or something like that) as she cast this transformation on him. No one has agreed with me yet... I just hope this is figured out by the time my fan fiction reaches this story arch . (Many decades from now it seems >.>)

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                    • #55
                      Yea, but Nag'molada and Bahamut's comments make it sound like the boy was present 10,000 years ago, which would mean both he and Eald'narche were around at the same time... I seriously doubt the Boy is Eald'narche.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by CRtwenty
                        Yea, but Nag'molada and Bahamut's comments make it sound like the boy was present 10,000 years ago, which would mean both he and Eald'narche were around at the same time... I seriously doubt the Boy is Eald'narche.
                        Yeah Nags is old as dirt and probbly same as age range as the kid and kam la nuat.
                        It's Official Promathia Hates me....
                        それは公式である,プロマシア は私を憎む。
                        Trielは博雅なる大召喚士
                        A Summoners Journey (The Live Journal) >>>> A Summoners Journey the Movie

                        BecomingThe Movie: The tale of the Journey of a Blue Mage

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                        • #57
                          I'm really wondering about what the Chains of Promathia are... according to the legend of the Tavnazian Church, the Chains were placed on mortals because they attempted to enter the realm of the gods...

                          Sounds to me like the fall of the Zilart and the Meltdown... perhaps the Gods panicked at the thought of mortals entering their realm and cursed them? In an attempt to limit their power?
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by CRtwenty
                            I'm really wondering about what the Chains of Promathia are... according to the legend of the Tavnazian Church, the Chains were placed on mortals because they attempted to enter the realm of the gods...

                            Sounds to me like the fall of the Zilart and the Meltdown... perhaps the Gods panicked at the thought of mortals entering their realm and cursed them? In an attempt to limit their power?
                            I'd assume so , Seeing that the crystal warriors were like the Guardians of not the five races. But the "Chains" that stopped them from becoming "more". These crystal warriors definately werent our friends and were more along the lines of the emtpy.
                            It's Official Promathia Hates me....
                            それは公式である,プロマシア は私を憎む。
                            Trielは博雅なる大召喚士
                            A Summoners Journey (The Live Journal) >>>> A Summoners Journey the Movie

                            BecomingThe Movie: The tale of the Journey of a Blue Mage

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                            • #59
                              I wouldn't say the Ark Angels are evil... they were just really loyal to the Zilart, and shared their feelings that the other races were nothing more then pale imitations of themselves. Fanatics yes, evil... maybe not.
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                              • #60
                                No idea where else to post this

                                Looking into the DAT files. some interesting areas appear in the files for the search abbrevs:

                                DynamisVal --- Dynamis Valley of Sorrows?
                                DynamisBub --- Dynamis Bubuimu Peninsula?
                                DynamisQuf --- Dynamis Qufim (lol High levels dying in the craphole of the world)
                                DynamisTav --- Dynamis Tavnazia interesting because Tavnazia is a region, maybe lufaise or misareux?

                                JeunoRA
                                SandOriaRA
                                BastkRA
                                WindRA

                                would be interesting to know what teh RA meant.

                                AlTaieu --- I've seen this one but it isnt turned on in game
                                HuXzoi --- Seen the map for this one
                                RuHmet }
                                EmParadox }----No idea what these are
                                OuHpat }
                                LowerPromv } Lower Promyvion (duh)
                                Kunami

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