Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

[hongman]

Ok so I was a 50RDM. Finally managed to get most of my Elementak Staves so thought Id hit 51 at least so I could start using them, if ever i jumped onto my RDM main while lvling subs.

LS has no 75's (highest is currently 66 I think). So I shouted in Jeuno foe help.

Luckily for me, a 75THF/NIN answered and we struck a deal of 25k per item, starting with the hardest (Papyrus).

So off we went to The Eldieme Necropolis.

He thought with TH2, max 2 hrs to get it.

4 Hours later, 5 deaths for me later, a dlvl, numerous bone chips and 3 chest keys later...no Papyrus.

I died numrous times. Tried to keep sneak up, but it always wore at the awkwardest of times. 2 deaths were due to sneak wearing in one of those awkward times, 2 were from -aga spells stripping my sneak and the other mobs aggroing and 1 was from a freak Freeze that got casted on me. 1 shotted me.

So what am I to do? Should I keeo going back to jeuno and shouting for help? Or is any kind soul on Bahamut going to get me through this "rite of passage" !!!

I now need to solo 2k ish to get me back to 50...no point in partying in for that xp. I was only 3k to 51 when I started this ><

[Kirsteena]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

Last night when you talked to me, I was in the middle of a totally crazy merit party, couldn't focus on anything but it - rdm main healing a thickets merit party - insanity.

Tonight, assuming nothing turns up with the ls (just joined a new one, so that is my primary focus), let me know, I'll give it a go, at least get some of it done. We can go for the others first, then it will feel like you are achieving something!

[Mouser]

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You're on a different server so I can't help, but just some advice. If you have a level 75 helping, there's no need to tag along with them, you can just hang out at the entrance and let them come back to you once every loop around the lich spawns and heal them (or not even that if they can heal themselves). You don't need to be near them to lot the items when they drop.

[hongman]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

Hi Kirsteena

Yeah I was going ask but I didnt want to bother you out of a merit party!

I suppose a lot is to do with luck. But yes even if we could do the bomb coal and Exoray Mold would be great. I didnt want to do those first with proper Hired Help as I think it would have given him the chance to just go for the first 2 as an easy 50k then make his excuses. So I set the terms as the hardest one first.

Luckily also said, no item no gill. So whilst I was up till 2:30am dying a lot at least I didnt have to pay anything. Yes I felt guilty that he didnt get the drop hence no gill but hey.

Looks like Ima be at work late again tonight, but I should be on by about 7:30.

What happened to that LS you got made leader of?

[hongman]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

You're on a different server so I can't help, but just some advice. If you have a level 75 helping, there's no need to tag along with them, you can just hang out at the entrance and let them come back to you once every loop around the lich spawns and heal them (or not even that if they can heal themselves). You don't need to be near them to lot the items when they drop.

Yeah I ended up doing that in the end. But this guy was getting aggro from resting for HP so I tagged along to buff and heal some, thought it would be easy to just keep sneak up and keep out of the way. Obviously not lol. Just wanted to speed up the process.

[hongman]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

On another note - Will I have to be lvl 50 again to reactivate the quest? 2k xp isnt much but its something to keep in mind.

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

While we are sympathic, wouldn't this thread be better placed in the Bahamut server forum?

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BTW, did anyone teach you that you can start casting a new sneak on yourself, then cancel the existing one (which is wearing off soon) while the spell is still in progress?

It takes some practice, and the timing is tight for RDM (especially later on, when you get more Fast Cast). It's a pain, but this technique pretty darn handy. If you can get any sort of space at all between you and monsters before sneak completely wears off, you should be able to reapply it without getting yourself killed.

In really tight spots, especially where there are magic aggros, you may want to macro Silent Oil for untimely sneak problems; those little vials seem to activate almost instantaneously.

/item "Silent Oil" <me>

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BTW, I've heard stories that years ago Lv.50 people actually banded together in parties and alliances to do this, and those Papyrus hunts were a huge events. That must have been something...

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Are you a Believer? >_>

• Believer of Stacking TH2: Get multiple THF's; they just have to be in party/alliance, and in the zone. Supposedly.
• Believer of the Moon: Full Moon = more loot. 100% is your best bet.
• Believer of the Day: Match crystal drop from monster to the day of the week. Monsters are stronger, but so are the drops. Lich drops... Earth Crystal?!
• Believer of the Plan: Ask everyone days in advance, and set up a proper event with exact date and time. Also consult lokyst's FFXI Craft Timer to figure out when it'd be full moon and earth day.

[Aeolus]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

If you already activated the quest it will still be active after a de-level.

[hongman]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

If you already activated the quest it will still be active after a de-level.

Thanks.

I did think about the Bahamut forum but for whatever reason...meh

Yes, Id imagine that back in the day 75's were not easily readily avilable they would have to band together to kill these things. If I had the patience and confidence that people would come along Id set one up!!

Believer of Moon/Day etc...dont know. Never had the patience or really even thought about it enough to time anything around it. Although next time I get a good drop, Ill make a point to check the phase and day...see if it correlates.

Now, on the note of cancelling Sneak/Invis while casting. No, I havent been taught that.

I'm on a PC, and I think (?) it has to do something with selecting the buff icon up the top? I have only ever done this a few times, yet always by accident so I couldnt recreate it :p

Care to share?

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

Um... yeah, select the icon on top, and cancel it. Don't how other PC players do it--I use a USB controller do that. Try the + key on the numeric pad or something?!

(I think I had Sneak for half a year before someone finally taught me to cancel it so it can be reapplied. <_< Quite a few months after that, someone else noticed that I was a fool, and told me I don't have to cancel Invisible to reapply it... >_<; )

[Raydeus]

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Ah the memories, indeed G1 was a great (read annoying) experience for me.

But now I look back and really miss those days.



It'll take time (or not depending on your luck) but you'll get it done soon.

[Kirsteena]

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What happened to that LS you got made leader of?

Long story... I'll explain later.

Ok, 7.30, I should know what I am doing by then. I'm supposed to be doing assaults tonight, but not sure when, and I think I am supposed to be soloing Shadowlord for someone else... but we can fit a couple of hours in if nothing else.

And the papyrus sucks.

[Slip]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

For what it's worth, the Papy will drop very early sometimes. I was farming one for my wife and got it on the 6th Lich. Then got another about 2 hrs later for some strangers who were farming it too. No TH on either one.

Four hours with TH2 seems like a long time - was the Thief targeting the right mobs or was he just killing every skele he ran across?

For canceling Sneak (or any cancelable buff) with a keyboard hit the + key on the numpad twice. That will give a highlight box up on your buff/debuff icon line. Move the highlight over to Sneak, hit Enter and voila no more Sneak. Just be careful cause it's easy to highlight something you don't want to remove, like Protect (some things are safe from being removed this way though like Signet and Food).

I forget if this works or not but I think you can set your highlight on Sneak, then type /ma Sneak <me>, hit Enter to cast the spell, then enter again to cancel the existing Sneak.

[hongman]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

Thanks everyone.

Kirsteena, when I log on tonight I am going to start soloing some mobs (suggestions anyone?) to try get some my level back, just send me a /tell if and when you are ready?

The THF was indeed hitting Lichs, only doing Fallen Knights if they aggroed for whatever reason.

Hopefully tonight is the night!

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: Limit Break 1 is really breaking me

I did most of G1 just as a group effort between other level 50s who also needed the items. The only exception was Papyrus, where we had a high level WAR or DRK (not sure which) helping about 5 of us.

The key to Papyrus is picking a safe camp. I can understand sneak wearing off at awkward times while you were still making your way to a camp. But it getting stripped off by a -ga spell, and causing other mobs to aggro you? Sounds like either you guys picked a poor camp, or didn't try to camp anywhere at all and simply roamed around.

If you travel through Beaucedine Glacier to get to the remote part of Eldieme Necropolic, you can camp right inside the entrace. A player in the mid 60s can move around without aggro and get to enough Lich spawns. None of the Skeleton mobs in Eldieme link, so it's easy for a higher level player to pull a Lich all the way to camp without bringing back more than you can handle.