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  • Originally posted by Vilurum
    - SMN isn't "uber", but it has its uses. That Ouryu fight that was so unpleasant for me, would've been a lot less painful if we had Earthen Ward to block most or all of that AOE damage hitting the non-tanks. Astral Flow's damage output is still nothing to sneeze at, and is particularly useful for multiple enemies.
    SMN is the reason we killed Ouryu >.>; Had smn use Astral Flow when he did take off for the first time and uses Invincible. Guarda can tank Ouryu for nice chunk of time while he is in the air, allowed us to rest up a bit and go in full force after Invincible had ended, only took us 9 times to kill him -.-;

    Originally posted by Vilurum
    Diabolos, for example. You really don't want to fight him without Erase. I'm sure it's doable, but it'd be painful. SMN, on the other hand, wouldn't shine so much in that battle, so the SMN could go as WHM.
    I've heard other people say just simply erase bio, but how? The DoT from bio won't wake you, and maybe we just had bad luck, but he used Nightmare fairly often ._. With the cap raised to 45 though, makes this battle a joke. If he can't Nightmare off its not really much of battle.

    And if they ever nerf the Ouryu fight I'll die, we went through so much trouble with that BC it wasn't even funny :mad:

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    • Meh. I should've gone with my original rambly post. I forgot to put back in the disclaimer that I hadn't seen SMN in action for the BCs, and had not in fact even played it to a high level myself. So these were just my conceptual theories. In other words, me talking without experience.

      You're absolutely right, of course. Aerial Blast would do a lot of damage to Ouryu (whose HP bar does move reasonably fast, what's annoying is that his attacks suck, particularly if he's up in the air), up to three times, and would furthermore spare the tank from getting hit so long as Garuda is alive. (Though I still stand by my point that Earthen Ward, if ever there was an opportunity to use it, would be awesome for cutting down on collateral damage to non-tanks.)

      Since when is the Diabolos fight 45-cap? There hasn't been an update since I did it, and it was 40-cap then.

      Regarding Nightmare, he does use it a lot, but the point of Erase is not for waking people up (Cure and Curaga, along with Barsleepra, accomplish that goal ... once *someone* cure-capable wakes up anyway). It's to keep people alive when they're being hurt for 20 HP/tick due to that nasty Bio effect. He doesn't spam it so much that you can't get most of your party cleared by the time he uses it again. (Even though you then have to clear it all over again, at least you're significantly cutting down on the damage in the meantime.)

      Like I said - I'm sure it can be won without Erase (just need more healing to keep up with the damage), but having a WHM to Erase the Bio effect would make it visibly easier. In my opinion anyway.

      If I've learned nothing else from doing these missions, it's that you have to tailor your strategies to the jobs you have available to work with.
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      Mission plot lines complete: Windurst, Bastok, San d'Oria, Zilart, Promathia.
      Maps not yet obtained: Promyvion-Dem, Promyvion-Mea, Promyvion-Holla, Promyvion-Vahzl, Sacrarium.

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      • Anyway, in other news besides CoP mission advice ... let's just reiterate that Fal has apparently pulled another disappearing act and needs to be punted.

        Anyone up for punting an elvaan?
        Averter of the Apocalypse~
        Unique quests complete: 330-something, keep losing count.
        Mission plot lines complete: Windurst, Bastok, San d'Oria, Zilart, Promathia.
        Maps not yet obtained: Promyvion-Dem, Promyvion-Mea, Promyvion-Holla, Promyvion-Vahzl, Sacrarium.

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        • oK sounds like fun
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          • I'm up for some punting fun
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            • cap raise..?

              Er, wait, did I catch someone say that they will raise the Diabolos cap? lol Or maybe im overtly tired..

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              • as of 8 hours ago, diabolos is still 40 cap ^^
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                BST-12, DRK-1, RNG-37, DRG-2, RDM-1, NIN-37, PAL-1, SMN-10

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                • Me want pictures, me want pictires! *bangs fists on the desk impatiently* My eyes have been deprived of colour for too long. Give me pictures, give me pictures!

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                  • I'm up for a good Elvaan punting.

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                    • Elvaan ....punting? >.> <.<

                      Now im really hoping Fal comes back soon if he doesnt show up, you all might punt the closest elvaan ye can reach >< =P

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                      • Ahh man Fal, where are ya? I hope you are still healthy because your disappearance has us a tad bewildered. I kind of was accepting of the absense of this thread for a few weeks, but its grown unbearable now. Please respond man and let us all know that you are alright.
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                        • I dont know if this will tide you over but it is funny.
                          http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...us&T=28196&P=1
                          This was on the blizzard forums earlier.

                          WORST OWNING EVER. FUNNIEST THREAD EVER.

                          Worth the read.

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                          • Originally posted by balz
                            I dont know if this will tide you over but it is funny.
                            http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...us&T=28196&P=1
                            This was on the blizzard forums earlier.

                            WORST OWNING EVER. FUNNIEST THREAD EVER.

                            Worth the read.

                            and that is why i dont play WoW.
                            Rank 10 windurst.
                            fishing 25, cooking lvl 60, alchemy 100+1, goldcraft 20 smithing 34, woodworking 23

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                            • Faluzure, what specs are your computer when you took these pics?
                              p.s I know he has been gone for a while so if anyone else knows please state. Thanks in advance.
                              Dude, on the warcraft thing, those guys are DUMB!! class man.

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                              • Think hes got a 9800pro but I dont know the rest + can't be bother going through all these pages to find out, you can do that
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