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  • Originally posted by Dua
    Fal, I know this is you thread and I dont want to turn this into a flame war, but if you mention our LS (Ascension) in even a slighty negative way again, the flame war will begin. This is not the 1st time you have trashed our LS in this thread, but this will be the last time.
    Hmm? What hostility you have here. Flaming? I consider that not to be a flame sir.

    As for trashing your LS, where have I done so? I have constantly commended your LS efforts both in this thread and to your leaders. If you're talking about Promyvion in terms of "trashing the LS", then yes you did get my PT killed. I said nothing to any of you. We decided to sit back and let your alliance jump through a couple islands just in case you got in our way again. I *DID* receive apologies from various members of your LS that evening because you guys knew what you did. If you did nothing wrong, then why did MANY of your LS members apologize for what they did to my party that evening?

    Secondly, my post that I posted about Ascension camping Adamantoise was indeed a PROMISE made by Silverblood, one of YOUR main leaders and one of my FRIENDS on FFXI. We have been friends for a long time and he vowed that you guys would eventually camp him, but the LS would wait until you have succesfully tried for Fafnir. It was a surprise to see you guys in Valley of Sorrows yesterday evening.

    Thirdly, I do know that there is supposed "information leaks" regarding your LS' events and such, but you have no right to target members of your LS who are friends with me. I've stayed out of NA drama since I started this game and I will continue to do so. I do not spread rumors nor do I spread shit about lsmes or internal events. If it indeed requires me to cut ties with certain people, then so be it. I can blacklist as fast as a blink of an eye.

    As for me being "associated" with DrgnAsh, that is true. However, I am associated with them just I am associated with you guys. If you recall, I have helped your LS numerous times with Gods in Ru'Aun Gardens in the past. I was offered a shell, why did I not take it? You can ask Nasya, Almaut, Silverblood and even Phazen. I am loyal to one HNM LS and I will not betray them. In addition, obtaining a pearl/sack gives me access to the Linkshell's LSMES. I refused your linkshell's pearl because I knew I could never be a true member. By being a guest, it is better I do not have rights to see what is on your LSMES. Better safe than sorry, because I don't want people pointing fingers at me when someone happens to "leak information". As for me having a DrgnAsh sack, it was given to me because I was specifically told to check the LSMES when DrgnAsh was interested in Promathia. They post absolutely no useful information in the LSMES at all. The last LSMES was some bullshit about how slacker and Aurorine were going to get married. Wow, that's very informative! I'm going to leak that information to all people on our server!

    I've helped DrgnAsh once with a God run & one Kirin battle. The last Kirin run was me being "hired" to fill the role as RDM and I got paid for it in gil. I have helped your guys and I got paid with a Genbu Shield. I helped Nnep when he once ran an HNM LS and he paid me in gil. People have asked for my help & advice in regards to HNMs and I freely give it. People often need a certain job for an HNM because their members are not available, thus they "hire" me. Someone asks for my help, I provide it. I do not discriminate and I don't give a crap whether it is DrgnAsh, Ascension, some JP HNM shell or even Satan himself.

    My LS has held Adamantoise for months now since his release. We have had little to no competition. Have you ever wondered why? Perhaps it is because my LS is a kind LS. Perhaps it is because my LS doesn't mind sharing things. How did you think Scypio got his Adamantoise Egg? Many of the things that drop from Aspidochelone are given away. Many of the people are external members. How are candidates selected? A friend of one of us. People have walked away with so many abjurations it's not even funny. All you have to do is make a request. I put the request in, you are then placed in a queue for the abjuration you want. That simple. All the LS asks in return is that you show up on the days he will spawn. This is how for many months, my LS has reduced competition for the turtle to almost nothing. We are generous and we'd rather see someone gain something they need than just give it to some random member who has no use for it.

    So the only person flaming & threatening here, good sir Dua, is you. I ask you do not openly threat me again, for what I said was not trashing, bashing, stomping, whatever you want to call it. If you have a problem with what is said then you tell your leaders to contact me and we'll deal with it. As far as I'm concerned, you're just a member with a pearl (not a pearlsack) and what you say is reflective of you only, not the LS. If there is a problem, the LEADERS handle the situation, NOT the members. I highly doubt Almaut & Silverblood or even Nasya, members of FFXIOnline forums would agree with your stance or your post and you wrongfully attacked me. I guarantee you if Phazen were around (as he was also a leader), he too, would back me up and said your attack was unnecessary.

    Sorry, I got so caught up with the response to him, the pictures & responses to other posts will be posted on Monday.
    Character: Faluzure
    Server: Quetzalcoatl
    Jobs: BLM75/RDM75/SMN75/WHM75
    Rank: 10 (Windurst) - Zilart & Promathia Completed
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    • I gotta agree with Fal, what he wrote was in nowhere a flame... hehe...

      CoP/Zilart/San/Win Finished, Bastok 1-1

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      • No offense fal but it was not an agreement at all it was conversation and an unknown respect between the 2 shells to stay away from each other at camps which wasnt hard when we were a small shell. When we talked of this it was a while ago and nowhere was it set in stone we arent ever going to countercamp you. We tried avoiding it but it cant be that way we want to kill Aspid and Kb and Fafnir just like your LS does. Theres no point to bringing this matter up in public its almost like you wanted us to come here to read it. If you want to call the conversation had a while back and call it an Agreement well we didnt break it did we? We were at Fafnir camp 6+ times cant win the spawn had some bad luck which means unhappy members time to move on.

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        • It seems like you feel slightly betrayed Faluzure, and I can understand you feeling this way. It seems like you had a communication issue, where you saw it as a promise not to camp Aspi until Ascension was successful with Fafnir. It seems like Silverblood saw it as a less binding agreement(conversation, whatever you want to call it).

          I think it's incredibly honorable for your HNMLS to help other HNMLSs with the drops, but I don't think that's the issue. Some people want to be able to say, "Yeah, my HNMLS beat Aspi. And I got [item] from it." If I was anywhere near endgame, I know I wouldn't be satisfied getting an item unless I worked for it. I may be completely wrong, but I think Ascension wants to earn their own abjurations and drops. The generosity of your LS seems more like charity(or possibly leeching off your LS's work).

          Just my take on the situation, and I hope you all work this out.

          -Neara

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          • First I want to commend you on your large thread here on the site. It's an impressive documentation of everything you've done for however long and you have taken some impressive screens.

            That aside, while Dua may have interpreted what you said differently than you meant it to be, I don't think our LS is wrong in competing for the Adamantoise camp. Per Silverblood (and the post above) there was no "agreement." He has no real reason to lie. There's nothing he even wants from Aspido, so it would actually be in his benefit to do so. Should there be one? I don't necessarily think so.

            I think your LS does a very noble thing by giving abjurations to those who request them, but the thing is those kind of pyramid setups only work until someone else comes in and counters it. If it wasn't us it would be someone else sooner or later. It's pretty easy for you to mention this after the fact as well. Why not tell us beforehand? I don't need an excuse. I understand that people don't wanna split loot more ways than they need to and well, neither do we.

            Anyhow, I just wanted to put that out there so we're at least on the same page. If you still have issues of some kind, /t me in game as there's no reason to further pollute your thread with this drama. Ciao.
            -Liefe-

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            • To Silverblood: Look, you said it, whether it was between us or mentioned to your LS afterwards. You are a friend, thus I took your word. That's what friends do isn't it? You said something along the lines of "you're a friend and I don't want to countercamp you." It is not my fault I didn't know you really didn't mean it. If you were some random nobody, I wouldn't have gave it a 2nd thought. But it was coming from you, one of my good friends on FFXI and I believed it. Even still, it was barely a month ago when you said it when you sat with me in Port Jeuno. We were discussing Scypio's armor which happened very recently. Your LS couldn't have gone from "small" to its current size in a that time frame. You have been strong for a long time now.

              As for bringing it up in public? You know damn well that I respond to each of my readers directly and I hide nothing. My response was directed to Vilurum. Some people read this thread religiously and like to know what I do, especially during events. Hunting HNM is a common event I report. What happened that night is no different than any other time.

              Anyway, all I'm saying was that I was surprised to see your LS there that evening. I was even more surprised you said nothing to me, even when seeing me physically there. I agree, that I may have been a bit naive in thinking you wouldn't come... because I knew you would eventually, it was just sooner than I thought. So my apologies for believing a friend's words so literally.

              Most importantly, Dua's attack on me was highly unnecessary. As you personally read what I wrote, I have said nothing can be described as flaming. I wrote what my feelings were and I have been doing so since day one. I still do not know where any of you come up with the idea that I am "bashing your LS constantly".



              To Neara: Yes, I do feel slightly betrayed & hurt, which is why I wrote what I wrote. Again, it wasn't an attack. It is neither Silverblood's nor my fault. Silverblood felt it was time to move on and I thought it was too early. If there is a problem here it is not that they are camping Adamantoise/Aspido. I know they want to kill him on their own. However, these series of replies has nothing to do with that. The problem here is I was attacked by one of their leaders (Dua) for not even doing what he claims I have done.


              To Liefe: I never said it was wrong for you to camp. As I said before, I was under the impression that Silverblood wouldn't camp him for a while and he would let me know ahead of time when you guys were going to do so. I didn't know he never mentioned it to you guys, I never knew he decided the agreement was over. We had that conversation only a little over a month ago. I was under the assumption it would not be for a while. I understand that under recent circumstances, you guys have decided to be "hush hush" about everything your LS does due to the "leaking" of information lately. I didn't think i was a problem because I'm not the one to gossip.

              If I hate you, I'll say it to your face. If i think your LS sucks, I'll say "Ascension sucks" to you guys directly. But where have I said these things? I have always commended your efforts, whether on this thread or via this tell. If you read the Quetz forum on Allakhazam, I put your LS as THE TOP NA LS on our server. I've never said once, "your LS is too weak, you shouldn't try this HNM or that HNM".

              Dua claims that I have flamed you guys within this thread. I thought long and hard about it and the only thing I could come up with was Promyvion. I said you guys were careless and got my PT killed. If I am wrong to say so, why did several of your LS members apologize to me after the incident? Furthermore, I gave it more thought and I think the only other time was Fafnir. I did not flame you guys there either. I said that you guys had some bad luck and just now Silverblood said so. I quote him: "We were at Fafnir camp 6+ times cant win the spawn had some bad luck which means unhappy members time to move on." I said it in the same manner and I even went as far as saying it is natural and I have messed up before. I said people learn from their mistakes and I said keep trying and you'll eventually get it. I supported you there too. If Dua truly things that I flamed your LS, I don't know what to say. I'm speechless...


              I apologize for assuming, I apologize for taking Silverblood's words so literally. I have not dogged your LS. I support your LS. Dua said stuff he shouldn't have said. That is all. Now, please let my thread get back to the focus of what it was made for.
              Character: Faluzure
              Server: Quetzalcoatl
              Jobs: BLM75/RDM75/SMN75/WHM75
              Rank: 10 (Windurst) - Zilart & Promathia Completed
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              • Chebukkis {Yes, please.}
                Averter of the Apocalypse~
                Unique quests complete: 330-something, keep losing count.
                Mission plot lines complete: Windurst, Bastok, San d'Oria, Zilart, Promathia.
                Maps not yet obtained: Promyvion-Dem, Promyvion-Mea, Promyvion-Holla, Promyvion-Vahzl, Sacrarium.

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                • {Yes please}
                  oo i have a request, i am a 71 mnk (Mithra) right now and i saw this male Hume in Rabao in AF2 with the best stuff... and i forgot to take a screenshot >< he looked really really kewl~~~

                  I have no clue when i will get that stuff ;; i haven't even done dynamis yet, if you would be so kind if you see any mnks on you server with AF2 that would be great ^^
                  Hope it isn't a hassle >< and thanks ^^

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                  • 0_0, anyway, Fal that new concept Z from Nismo, that's hella tight, hopefully it gets approved here. Also, since the Skyline's emissions are restricted by the government, it will be unfortunate for us to never ever get a chance to buy one hehe (unless you can afford to import it, and even then, you have to go through all the mumbo jumbo crap with the government). As for bringing back the theme...............

                    4 races, any sex (female or male), wearing AF2 (if that's even possible) or Full Koenig (if that's even possible). Or just someone holding Sword Relic 2/3*if available* :-D.

                    JP

                    brave; integritous; commanding
                    New sig. Thank you Graelinn of BeastInTheSack (Garuda)
                    75 ナイト, 37 戦士, 31 忍者, 18 シーフ, 16 モンク, 8 侍, others: level 1 T_T.
                    ナイト 怒 (いかり)(Level 75 ナ/Level 37 戦)

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                    • Blarg….., it’d suck if ye left Fal, (Ieven though ye said you wouldn’t already, im just sayin) Your one of the first high lvl players that’s actually….nice, heh. Caitsith has a few aye, and I know some of them, but most have forgotton me, and consider themselves to imporent to even talk to people below 70 @.@

                      As fer takin time off…that I can understand, I get bored with it everyone in awhile, but im to addicted to stop playin, …one of me friends just recently left for WoW, and tried to get me to come with him. I just told him that I had to much to see, but the main thing that kept me was me friends…ive been through a lot with em…and I cant wait to see the better things in the game =) Course, yers is a different case, but I think its basically the same…kinda >.>

                      ….<.<

                      >.<

                      Anyways, , like I said before, my friends are what keep me from stopping, and I hate when my friends go, and I bet lotsa people will miss ye, including meself, but keep playin eh? =)

                      Sig is the courtesy of Enishi, Remora Server

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                      WHM 44
                      SMN 50
                      SAM 54

                      BLM Relic: 4/5 :D (I've been lucky >.>)
                      HQ Staves: 6
                      Zenith Mitts: O :D
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                      • I love this screenshot journal you have.

                        Cutiepii here is your picture of mithra monk in AF2. Sorry Fal. I hope you don't mind me posting a pic in your thread. Sorry also that it's not in game, but I guess it will work for now. Didn't know if you wanted a specific pose or not. So I just made one waving. Enjoy.
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                        Invite me!!!! My God! War/Mnk is so much better for tank than War/Nin. ~Me in Jeuno after waiting 2 hours for a party.

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                        • wow thanks ^^ i wish i had all that
                          I will eventually i hope ^^ thanks again :p

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                            • All those Asenscion people need to shut up. Honestly. Misinterpretation is what can lead to some pretty nasty battles, however, i believe it more prone to occur when one is looking for something to belabor the point upon. So it almost would seem as if Dua would be looking for something to rag on you about. Dua if you read this, stfu. You owe Faluzure some respect. Although i cant say that i am close with Faluzure, i can vouge for him that his prime intention is to enlighten those who do not experience the latter end of the game such as he does. It is certainly not to flame anyone. However, lets face it. Noone likes to die because of the mistakes of another, so his frustration upon your dumbass causing his PT to die, is not ridiculous.

                              Anyways, hey Fal. I am still enjoying FFXI, however i also picked up my copy of WoW. From what ive seen so far ive taken a liking to it, and i think you will too. Anyways, take care and hope to talk to you soon.
                              Eragon

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                              • Fal, just want to say great thread. I would much rather expiernce CoP through this thread than having to go through the pain of convincing people to do it.

                                The reason why there are flames is because of jealousy. They want the title. They want the items. They feel you are being elitist, snooby, etc by saying how good/nice/fair you are.

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