Game Wont Run PLEASE HELP :(

[TwilightMode]

Re: Game Wont Run PLEASE HELP

should i get the really expensive one? cuz the card worked fine with flyff and sims 2, the one i have now i mean.

[Murphie]

Re: Game Wont Run PLEASE HELP

Look here!

Get the cheap one.

[TwilightMode]

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will the cheap one be an upgrade or a downgrade ? do i have to take out the old card when im putting in the new one?

[TwilightMode]

Re: Game Wont Run PLEASE HELP

Thank you everyone, you really helped and its a lot clearer for me thats to everyone, ill try and get a new card soon so i can play that dam game


OH wait oen mroe questions, how do i find out what port thing i have? (PCI/AGP/PCIe).

[TwilightMode]

Re: Game Wont Run PLEASE HELP

=============================== System =================================
CPU = Unknown AuthenticAMD Processor
CPU Speed = 1811 MHz
No. of CPUs = 1
OS = Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 Ver 5.01.2600
Version of DirectX = DirectX9.0c
Main Memory = Capacity:383MB : Free Space:56MB
Drive [C:\] = Local Disk Free Space:131.08 GB(Capacity:180.31 GB)
Drive [D:\] = Local Disk Free Space:714.44 MB(Capacity:5.99 GB)
PlayOnline Viewer Install Path = C:\Program Files\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\PlayOnlineViewer\
FINAL FANTASY XI Install Path = C:\Program Files\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI\
TETRA MASTER Install Path = C:\Program Files\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\TetraMaster\
Graphics Card = SiS 651_661FX_741_760_760GX_M661FX_M661MX_M741_M760_M760GX
Type of Chip = UnKnown Video Chip
Video Driver = SiSGRV.dll
Version = 6.14.10.3650
Updated = Tuesday, January 04, 2005 8:09 PM
VendorId = 0x1039
DeviceId = 0x6330
SubSysId = 0x2A06103C
Revision = 0
VRAM = 128.0MB
AvailableVidMem = 122.7MB
AvailableTextureMem = 168.0MB
Sound Card = Realtek AC97 Audio
Sound Driver = ALCXWDM.SYS
Version = 5.10.5730
Updated = Friday, October 01, 2004 1:24 PM
Network Card = SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Network Driver = sisnic.sys
Version = 1.16.00.08
Updated = Friday, July 11, 2003 6:28 PM
Motherboard = Salmon
Manufacturer = ASUSTek Computer INC.
Version = 1.04
Serial Number = MB-1234567890

[Icemage]

Re: Game Wont Run PLEASE HELP

I did a little digging and the "Salmon" ASUStek board is actually the ASUS K8S-LA, which apparently was an OEM board that ASUS made for HP (Hewlett-Packard) a few years ago.

I dug a little deeper and found this spec sheet on that motherboard:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...name=c00257657

The important line:

Graphics connector (AGP): 1 AGP 8x

So, in conclusion, any AGP 8x graphics card will work with this board.


Icemage

[TwilightMode]

Re: Game Wont Run PLEASE HELP

what does that mean, should i get a salmon graphics card? im asuming you saw i have an hp?

[Icemage]

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what does that mean, should i get a salmon graphics card? im asuming you saw i have an hp?

I know for a fact you have an HP, since that's the only brand that has ever used that motherboard.

"Salmon" is the codename for your motherboard. It's not a graphics card. See StarvingArtist's post above for advice on what to get.


Icemage

[TwilightMode]

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okay, i THINK ill get this one, i dont know if its good or not. but it seems okay what is your peoples inputs on this card?

[Lunaryn]

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If you only need to support FFXI, then you have a fair bit of leeway. You'll want to make sure you get an ATI Radeon or nVidia GeForce card. For the low end of capacity, you can either use an old high-end card (clearance prices ftw) or a new low-end card.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ocessing_Units

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ocessing_Units

Big table of a lot of cards. For the nVidia list, anything from GeForce 4 Series table on, and for the ATI list, anything from the Radeon R200 table on should be okay, but beware of poor performance from cards that are both low-spec and old. The Radeon 8500 is good. The Radeon 9000 and 9200, not so much... You're looking for anything with a Bus Interface of AGP. My rather limited testing suggests that Fill Rate probably has a rather significant impact for FFXI, but I can't say for sure how everything stacks up.

I got my Radeon 8500 on clearance and as OEM packaging (no software bundles, etc.) for $65 a few years ago, so it's not that expensive if you can find the right deal. It performs a fair bit better than the more ubiquitous GeForce FX 5200. I also got a used GeForce 4 MX 420 pretty cheaply and it does well also. So if you can find a used card with high specs, that may work best.

If not, I suspect you can get tolerable performance out of a low-end GeForce 7 or 8 card. Pay attention to which card is which on this; close numbers tend to indicate cards that came out at the same time, not cards of similar capabilities; the differences between a GeForce 7900, 7600, and 7300, or between an 8600 and an 8500, may warrant a price tag difference of $50 or more.

I'd say if you do a bit of research and shopping around, you ought to be able to get a marginally acceptable card for FFXI for about $30-$40, maybe less, and a fairly good card for around $70-$100.

Edit: Okay, since that was a fair bit of info dump... don't feel you need to look through and understand or memorize anything from that table. Rather, when you find a card, look it up in the table, compare it to others you've seen, see if it seems worth the price. I generally bring a printout of whichever list is relevant when I go shopping for video cards.

Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. tend to overcharge for this kind of thing, in my experience. Ordering online or buying from an actual computer parts store (check the yellow pages for your area) may save you some money.

[TwilightMode]

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What do you think about these ones?
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...75&catid=20397

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...39&catid=20397

I know they are from best buy, but i just want a little feel of looking around.

[Feba]

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don't buy ATI.


























ever.

[Mhurron]

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ATI cards work better in FFXI then nVidia for the time being.

The 9550 will run the game at 1024x768 but if you can find a X1600 AGP, it will handle it better.

For instance an X1600 for $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814102666R

[TwilightMode]

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Im a little scared to buy one only because i have no idea if itll work in the fist place.

[Lunaryn]

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The 9550 you posted in the first link looks to be both low-end and old. It'd perform substantially poorer than e.g. the 8500. You could do a lot better for that price tag.

The X1050, OTOH, looks decent. I still think $100 is high for it, but it'd probably meet your needs.

However, I got an nVidia GeForce 7600 GT KO, a far more recent and powerful card, for about $110 at a local computer parts store. I think if you look around more you can find a much better deal than that X1050. I would say though that if you could find the X1050 for closer to $60-$70, it might be worthwhile.