How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

[Reena]

I was wondering how you take screne shot of linkshell text or any text in fFXI?

[neighbortaru]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

afaik, only third party apps like clipper, fraps, taksi, etc. will take screenshots of text. the in-game one won't.

[Haggai]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

Yeah, neighbortaru is correct. Windower will do it too, but all are against TOS, I think.

[Mazon]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

Or if your on PC, hitting the Print Screen Key will allow you to capture the text. But this method only allows you to take one screenshot.

You then need to exit FFXI, go to an application like Paint, Photoshop, heck maybe even MSWord and paste the image.

If you shut off your computer, or you hit print screen a second time, before pasting the image to a document, you will lose the screenshot.

[Reena]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

ok I might try the printscrene one, but how do u use a third party app and what ones do you reccomend?

[Ellipses]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

ok I might try the printscrene one, but how do u use a third party app and what ones do you reccomend?

You install it and run it. Everything else depends on the app.

I'm happy with Fraps (paid version), though I've heard Clipper is faster if you just want screenshots and not movies.

[Mhurron]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

ok I might try the printscrene one, but how do u use a third party app and what ones do you reccomend?

3rd party app would be bound to a key outside the game and would simply take a screencapture of the whole screen.

I use this http://www.robloach.net/projects/screencap. Its free, and unlike fraps, the free version will save in JPG or PNG, both of which are much smaller then BMP.

all are against TOS

Only applications that were written to alter the way FFXI runs are. Fraps and others have no concept of what is running and simply save what the videocard is drawing to the monitor in a file. For something like Fraps to be against the ToS, Windows itself would have to be against the ToS.

[Macht]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

3rd party app would be bound to a key outside the game and would simply take a screencapture of the whole screen.

I use this http://www.robloach.net/projects/screencap. Its free, and unlike fraps, the free version will save in JPG or PNG, both of which are much smaller then BMP.

Only applications that were written to alter the way FFXI runs are. Fraps and others have no concept of what is running and simply save what the videocard is drawing to the monitor in a file. For something like Fraps to be against the ToS, Windows itself would have to be against the ToS.

Not entirely true about it being ok. If you ever read the notes about FFXI and it's smooth operation part of what they suggest you do is disable and close any and all other programs. Windows is an Operating Shell with a GUI Interface, not in the same classifications as a standard program. A standard program runs within an Operating Shell.

If you want to get down to specifics and technicalities then running an Anti-Virus, Adware/Spyware/Malware Remover, even Internet Explorer while running FFXI would be considered illegal. What you are actually falling back on is a companies validity to restrict your system. Now no company has the right to enforce you to not run an Anti-Virus or other programs that help your system and keeps a Operating Shell healthy.

However they can request that certain behaviors of the system be restricted or follow a setting while using their program. So the choice to not run other progams in the background of the game is a curtesy, running programs that read or alter functions in the game is a direct violation that has more resonable recourse of action from the company. Though at the companies own disgression they can choose to still attack if any other program is used.

This is the same with many driving laws, the book itself basically breaks down to stating what is criminal speed and what is the officer's choice to pull over or not. By Arizona law the speed limit is were every driver should be exactly or slower, if you are 1 mph over that limit an officer has the right to pull you over. The police officers often will not though unless there is a condition to the situation that they are curious about (New car, hot female driving, hot male driving, intresting artwork on the car, officer in bad mood, hates the person, different race, etc all qualify as a good enough reason). Now some of them you can easily see how racism, or sexist would seem wrong to the situation. As Arizona's law currently has it the officer's reason after you pass 1 mph over the speed limit doesn't matter, his reason is only a driving force to enforce the law.

Now in Arizona if you are 20 mph over the limit that is criminal speed and officers must pull you over. So depending on the person, car, and officer's mood you have a 19 mph above the speed limit you can basically gamble with. I'm not making this up either, I questioned that defensive driver instructor hard for this knowledge. Bleed him dry of almost anything and everything I could just shy of reading that huge 2,000 page book on all the rules. Since he knew it already I got away without having to read that book to know that stuff. Only did it since I was forced to go to that defensive driving class to avoid having the ticket on my record.

Anyway back to the point, as the TOS states it they can get you for having Fraps or other programs open. Really though reasonable action to do so is often why a program such as that wouldn't likely be attacked. Just don't think you are completly safe in using it, much like the 19 mph gamble you get in driving in Arizona you play the same gamble with seemingly harmless programs running while FFXI is.

[Mhurron]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

the TOS states it they can get you for having Fraps or other programs open

We would like to take this time to remind our players that the use of any third-party tools to change or modify the game in any way is strictly prohibited in the PlayOnline environment. We will continue to take any necessary actions against those individuals that we have confirmed to have used such tools.

Fraps or any app like it, Anti-virus or any other application running in the background including Explorer.exe neither change or modify the game nor exist within the playonline environment.

If you ever read the notes about FFXI and it's smooth operation part of what they suggest you do is disable and close any and all other programs

A suggestion on getting the best performance from one application is not the ToS.

Windows is an operating system, one where its GUI is not separate from the kernel or any of its operations. An OS is made up of many running programs. Like any program it does its thing, calling it an OS does not make it special, it just describes its purpose. If SE has a problem with your anti-virus or fraps, they have a problem with you running Windows which is a collection of applications that are 3rd party to FFXI. There is a reason they specified 'to change or modify the game,' and 'within the PlayOnline environment.'

[Reena]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

Originally Posted by Playonline
We would like to take this time to remind our players that the use of any third-party tools to change or modify the game in any way is strictly prohibited in the PlayOnline environment. We will continue to take any necessary actions against those individuals that we have confirmed to have used such tools

Ok I know that you cant use any program that modify's or changes the game but taking a screne shot of the game isnt exactly modifying or changing it in any way, and I want to know what and where can I get this program to help me take screne shots of text and such in the game?

[Ellipses]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

Ok I know that you cant use any program that modify's or changes the game but taking a screne shot of the game isnt exactly modifying or changing it in any way, and I want to know what and where can I get this "TOS" program to help me take screne shots of text and such in the game?

You should have a copy of the Terms Of Service in your instruction manual, or you can find them on the PlayOnline site. Unfortunately, the Terms Of Service are not a program, and they won't help you take screenshots.

Three suggestions have been made. Mhurron provided a link to his, Clipper and Fraps you can google for.

[Reena]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

You should have a copy of the Terms Of Service in your instruction manual, or you can find them on the PlayOnline site. Unfortunately, the Terms Of Service are not a program, and they won't help you take screenshots.

Hehe I know XD I made a mistake lol, I'm so dumb sometimes I had to go back and read what everyone put to completely realize I was missreading what they where saying i'm sorry lol

I swear I must be a blonde

[Macht]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

Better to look at the TOS that on the FFXI website. They've actually modified it from the older manual ones that those are not valid.

I'm aware that the Explorer Shell is still a program. I apologize for my incorrect statement, the suggestion wasn't ToS it is in part of what they state to improve game performance. Basically pointing out they did suggest that any other program that is not part of the programs that compose the OS, should be off.

Not only that excluding the 3rd party program debate, programs like fraps actually is not legal in another aspect. The images taken do not have the SquareEnix copyrights on it, so are not legal in the same respects of someone taking another person's pic or images they put on a website without their consent.

As it is right now I doubt SquareEnix would care about it, but it is still in essence not legal.

1.5 “Licensed Software”
means the FINAL FANTASY XI online game program, as embodied on any one or more discs, or other media provided to you, or as incorporated into any one or more electronic files provided to you, together with any updates, additions or modifications thereto that SEI may elect (in its sole discretion) to provide or make available to you from time to time.

2.4 Restrictions.
To the maximum extent permitted by law, you may not:
(a) modify, reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Licensed Software;
(b) rent, lease, sublicense, distribute, or transmit the Licensed Software to any third party;
(c) rent, lease, sell, distribute, transmit or otherwise transfer your User or other account-related information (including, but not limited to, your User ID or password information) to any third party;
(d) make any copy of or otherwise reproduce the Licensed Software;
(e) infringe any copyright, trademark rights, or any other intellectual property rights of SEI or its licensors or,
(f) use the Licensed Software to provide service bureau or time-sharing services, or for any other commercial purpose. The Licensed Software is for your personal use only and may not be copied, leased, or made available for use by others.

You acknowledge and agree that any products that are created from, based on, or in connection with the Licensed Software shall be the property of SEI. SEI reserves its rights in its sole discretion to request such products to be sent to SEI or its facilities, or to be destroyed.

Fraps, infringes on the copyrights on the images produced. Like I said though when you look at their Indemification, basically a run through that you can have action taken against you if SEI feels like taking action (this would be the GMs). If they don't then you're safe.

[Mhurron]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

Better to look at the TOS that on the FFXI website. They've actually modified it from the older manual ones that those are not valid.

What I quoted was not from the printed manual but was a clarification after one of the bannings for using hacking tools, the moghouse anywhere one IIRC. I have read all of the documents online and none of them extend past anything that directly interacts with the game.

the suggestion wasn't ToS it is in part of what they state to improve game performance. Basically pointing out they did suggest that any other program that is not part of the programs that compose the OS, should be off.

Every game manual says this. It just means they're going to tell you to turn it off if you call needing support for a problem.

Not only that excluding the 3rd party program debate, programs like fraps actually is not legal in another aspect. The images taken do not have the SquareEnix copyrights on it, so are not legal in the same respects of someone taking another person's pic or images they put on a website without their consent.

This doesn't matter as the manual clearly states that all screenshots are copyright SE anyway and subject to the PlayOnline Privacy policy. (page 84 of the printed manual). Besides that, they made pretty clear with one of the contests at the Fan Festival that they have no problem with 3rd party recording software.

[Omniblast]

Re: How do you take screneshots of Linkshell or other text in game?

Oh no, you two... not this topic again. We beat it to death last time. http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/gen...iscussion.html

You two stop it, that is off topic. The topic is What do you use for a screen capture program, NOT what the validity of using the program is. Keep your opinions of 3rd party out of the topic.

For the record, I use paid Fraps, it works good with the G15 keyboard.