Ah so I return again! Nah, nvm, I did post a couple days ago >,>. Well, my work schedule has now been cleared for almost like.........2-3 months and now I have about a 2-3 week break then its off to college again. So lets see what I can accomplish during my 2-3 weeks of lazyness.
About
Ok, about this project. I don't know about you, but I have yet to see a fully working dress. Not these halfdone dress mods that you normally see (You will see what I mean at the end of this post).
I've done dress mods in the past, but most of them ended up in failure (Once again, this will be explained at the end of the post). This is due to the legs sticking out or the dress model not having proper animations to it.
Think a couple weeks ago, it hit me. Why not just do what SE did with thier NPC dress models and do the same thing to a PC? It took some clever work, but I accomplished that.
Don't understand what I mean? Look at the NPC's that have a dress. I wonder if they have any legs
? No they don't. This is what I have done with mine.
After getting most of it in a working state, I thought later : "How about we implement the legs after everything else is fixed?" Its very possible for me to add the legs and make it work with the dress pefectly. Though there are some problems with this. Instead of making this post longer, I am not going to say what these problems are.
So, I don't know how many dress mods have actually been released, but here is what the difference is between mine and theirs are :
1. My dress actually works with the legs/feet. To elaborate on this, what I mean is that every animation it does, it will look right. The dress won't be flapping up and down when you do x animation. Everything is executed smoothly and looks great in my opinion.
2. Real dress animation. Not just yet in this version yet. In the final, it may be there. Then again, I may not add it as I think its fine as is. If I add the legs, I will have to do this most likely.
What other versions have that mine doesn't :
1. You can edit the dress easily in other people's dress mods. You would have to wait on me to release new designs.
2. Mine = don't look right when sitting. This may be fixed or may not be. I am leaning toward leaving this alone as I think it looks fine except she looks like she's doing some yoga stuff or something xD.
3. Mine = No legs, just yet.
4. Mine = Doesn't look all that right when you rest aka heal from the back point of view. This would easily be fixed when I add the legs.
So here, before I show some pics, here is status report.
v3.3
Modeling
Dress 1 - 95%
Dress 2 - 95%
Textures
Dress - 0% (Technically, it shouldn't be 0% since this is just the solid color black version. If you're looking for one with some actual textures, you need to wait which is why I say 0%)
Animations
Dress - 50% (It may be 50% or 100%. Unfortunately, I do not feel like explaining this. I will another time in another post or maybe not.)
For now, it uses the same body as my skirt project that I did awhile back. Note, that I will change the design of it in the final version.....the body that is to many different types of designs.
Ah the high heels. Finally releasing these. Made a minor update to them, but they are far from done.....texture wise. Have some minor issues to deal with then its done. Would of been done ages ago, but doing the textures annoyed the crap out of me and still do.
The shots
Ok, now on to the shots. The reason why the gloves are that color and doesn't match the main outfit is because I'm exprimenting with things for the light aka white version. Thats why the high heels are a light color....that and the fact I was tired of black >,>.
This body version is not compatible with my dress just yet. More on this later.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DPBF.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DPBF2.jpg)
This is the body version that I made compatible with this dress mod, but it still have minor clipping issues near her waist. I could of fixed this if I wanted, but for now, FORGET IT! Oh and one more thing, her feet pop out of the dress in some of the shots. There is NO WAY for me to fix this. I may of got it working really well in all animations, but small things like this is unavoidable. One viable solution is to decrease the length of the dress which I WILL NOT do.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP1.jpg)
Backhand blow. As you can see, I made sure this dress follows almost every animation.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP2.jpg)
Didn't know dresses can extend like this very well xD. Well some do I suppose.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP3.jpg)
Feet sticking out? Like I said, I cannot fix it. I fix one thing, I break the rest.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP4.jpg)
Hmm savage blade.......should see it in motion though.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP5.jpg)
Ah the sitting problem. Now, I can fix this when I add the legs, but, I may end up breaking the other 95% of animations that actually look right. Hmm so, what do I sacrifice? You wanting to sit right or you not looking right when you fight
?
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP6.jpg)
Ah, now lets go back to what I said at the start of this post. Lets compare a dress that most modders make (Take some model, and stretch it) compared to mine. Now, for a example, I was going to use my old blue dress that I made 2 years ago, but, I couldn't find it =.=. So I found one that I did have, but was complete crap. Since I didn't want to look about for my old dress mods, I used this.
Now this is the bad example of a dress. When I do x kind of animation, the dress flaps up and down as shown. Forget how bad it looks, it shows you what I mean lol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...t/Baddress.jpg
Here is the same animation with my new dress model.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../GoodDress.jpg
Dresses aren't supposed to be flapping up and down like shown in the first picture. Do you see a dress flap up like that in real life if the person wearing the dress pushed you lol? Its not really a dress if its like that. Anyways, this what I have seen in most other people's dress mods back in the days. Either that or when you preform any animation, it does not follow the legs and feet.
Ports
Currently for Hume Female. It will stay this way from my perspective. I have no intentions of doing a EF, TF, or mithra version. When the final product is finished, you can port it to x race, just let me know about it.
Release?
Hah, I figure majority of you want to see what I'm talking about instead of looking at static images. I do not like releasing half done or beta work, but unlike other projects, this project is actually ok to release in its current state.
http://mods.shadow-ffxi.com/HF/Dress...tv34BetaHF.rar
Some notes
- Clipping issues. I already know about this crap. It usually happens in certain animations from her waist down.
- Bug issues. I already know about this crap also.
- For now, you only get the black version. While the hi heels are included, the new hands are not. I packaged the black gloves from the skirt project in the rar file.
- The hi heels may be like super bright in the game. This is due to the lighting probably. Unfortunately, I did not feel like fixing this. Once again, that is why this is a beta. Complaints aren't allowed.
- Any complaints about x this or that = ignore. You don't have to tell me things I already know. Anything you probably will say in your post I am well aware of.
- OH, its beta...yeah thats right. At some point, I will post a almost completed version and then the final version. The final version will look different from what you seen above and the hi heels would actually be completed.
Other things
Guys, I do not know when I am going to complete this. Unlike other projects, I am interested in finishing this and working out the kinks. I will not give any date, but I will try and come back and post updated shots of stuff. I think I've failed at this 90% of the time with previous work, but I can assure you not this time lol.
If you know you can change the color/design of the dress, I wouldn't bother doing that right now. Results can be........either good or bad. The final version would be fine though.
Didn't test it in game lol. Logged on my friend's account, but I had to update crap and I didn't feel like sitting there waiting for it to check then update the files. I will tomorrow though and if I find out it doesn't work ingame, well thats another project that goes in the scrapbook and I'll take the mod off my server xD. Should work though.......be kinda wierd if it didn't....
One last thing. Your favorite dead mod site lol, Shadow's Lair, will be recieving one final site update (visually). If you wish to see what the new site will look like, I suggest you go to my domain mainpage (that is www.shadow-ffxi.com ). For even further reference on how it will look, select Archlord Central site from the domain mainpage. The reason why I am doing this is because I'm retiring from web design. I had enough of it. So I will redesign the 2 remaining sites I control one final time and then no more web design for me. I would still update any site I maintain though.
That should be happening this week actually. As for mods, that won't be possible yet. I do not feel like reclaiming the mod throne and have the most mods a site could ever have just yet. Ok, I think I've said enough so this is Shadow signing off.
About
Ok, about this project. I don't know about you, but I have yet to see a fully working dress. Not these halfdone dress mods that you normally see (You will see what I mean at the end of this post).
I've done dress mods in the past, but most of them ended up in failure (Once again, this will be explained at the end of the post). This is due to the legs sticking out or the dress model not having proper animations to it.
Think a couple weeks ago, it hit me. Why not just do what SE did with thier NPC dress models and do the same thing to a PC? It took some clever work, but I accomplished that.
Don't understand what I mean? Look at the NPC's that have a dress. I wonder if they have any legs
![Tongue](http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/images/smilies/new/tongue.gif)
After getting most of it in a working state, I thought later : "How about we implement the legs after everything else is fixed?" Its very possible for me to add the legs and make it work with the dress pefectly. Though there are some problems with this. Instead of making this post longer, I am not going to say what these problems are.
So, I don't know how many dress mods have actually been released, but here is what the difference is between mine and theirs are :
1. My dress actually works with the legs/feet. To elaborate on this, what I mean is that every animation it does, it will look right. The dress won't be flapping up and down when you do x animation. Everything is executed smoothly and looks great in my opinion.
2. Real dress animation. Not just yet in this version yet. In the final, it may be there. Then again, I may not add it as I think its fine as is. If I add the legs, I will have to do this most likely.
What other versions have that mine doesn't :
1. You can edit the dress easily in other people's dress mods. You would have to wait on me to release new designs.
2. Mine = don't look right when sitting. This may be fixed or may not be. I am leaning toward leaving this alone as I think it looks fine except she looks like she's doing some yoga stuff or something xD.
3. Mine = No legs, just yet.
4. Mine = Doesn't look all that right when you rest aka heal from the back point of view. This would easily be fixed when I add the legs.
So here, before I show some pics, here is status report.
v3.3
Modeling
Dress 1 - 95%
Dress 2 - 95%
Textures
Dress - 0% (Technically, it shouldn't be 0% since this is just the solid color black version. If you're looking for one with some actual textures, you need to wait which is why I say 0%)
Animations
Dress - 50% (It may be 50% or 100%. Unfortunately, I do not feel like explaining this. I will another time in another post or maybe not.)
For now, it uses the same body as my skirt project that I did awhile back. Note, that I will change the design of it in the final version.....the body that is to many different types of designs.
Ah the high heels. Finally releasing these. Made a minor update to them, but they are far from done.....texture wise. Have some minor issues to deal with then its done. Would of been done ages ago, but doing the textures annoyed the crap out of me and still do.
The shots
Ok, now on to the shots. The reason why the gloves are that color and doesn't match the main outfit is because I'm exprimenting with things for the light aka white version. Thats why the high heels are a light color....that and the fact I was tired of black >,>.
This body version is not compatible with my dress just yet. More on this later.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DPBF.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DPBF2.jpg)
This is the body version that I made compatible with this dress mod, but it still have minor clipping issues near her waist. I could of fixed this if I wanted, but for now, FORGET IT! Oh and one more thing, her feet pop out of the dress in some of the shots. There is NO WAY for me to fix this. I may of got it working really well in all animations, but small things like this is unavoidable. One viable solution is to decrease the length of the dress which I WILL NOT do.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP1.jpg)
Backhand blow. As you can see, I made sure this dress follows almost every animation.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP2.jpg)
Didn't know dresses can extend like this very well xD. Well some do I suppose.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP3.jpg)
Feet sticking out? Like I said, I cannot fix it. I fix one thing, I break the rest.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP4.jpg)
Hmm savage blade.......should see it in motion though.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP5.jpg)
Ah the sitting problem. Now, I can fix this when I add the legs, but, I may end up breaking the other 95% of animations that actually look right. Hmm so, what do I sacrifice? You wanting to sit right or you not looking right when you fight
![Smile](https://www.ffxionline.com/core/images/smilies/smile.png)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/My%20Work/Projects/Dress%20Project/th_DP6.jpg)
Ah, now lets go back to what I said at the start of this post. Lets compare a dress that most modders make (Take some model, and stretch it) compared to mine. Now, for a example, I was going to use my old blue dress that I made 2 years ago, but, I couldn't find it =.=. So I found one that I did have, but was complete crap. Since I didn't want to look about for my old dress mods, I used this.
Now this is the bad example of a dress. When I do x kind of animation, the dress flaps up and down as shown. Forget how bad it looks, it shows you what I mean lol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...t/Baddress.jpg
Here is the same animation with my new dress model.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../GoodDress.jpg
Dresses aren't supposed to be flapping up and down like shown in the first picture. Do you see a dress flap up like that in real life if the person wearing the dress pushed you lol? Its not really a dress if its like that. Anyways, this what I have seen in most other people's dress mods back in the days. Either that or when you preform any animation, it does not follow the legs and feet.
Ports
Currently for Hume Female. It will stay this way from my perspective. I have no intentions of doing a EF, TF, or mithra version. When the final product is finished, you can port it to x race, just let me know about it.
Release?
Hah, I figure majority of you want to see what I'm talking about instead of looking at static images. I do not like releasing half done or beta work, but unlike other projects, this project is actually ok to release in its current state.
http://mods.shadow-ffxi.com/HF/Dress...tv34BetaHF.rar
Some notes
- Clipping issues. I already know about this crap. It usually happens in certain animations from her waist down.
- Bug issues. I already know about this crap also.
- For now, you only get the black version. While the hi heels are included, the new hands are not. I packaged the black gloves from the skirt project in the rar file.
- The hi heels may be like super bright in the game. This is due to the lighting probably. Unfortunately, I did not feel like fixing this. Once again, that is why this is a beta. Complaints aren't allowed.
- Any complaints about x this or that = ignore. You don't have to tell me things I already know. Anything you probably will say in your post I am well aware of.
- OH, its beta...yeah thats right. At some point, I will post a almost completed version and then the final version. The final version will look different from what you seen above and the hi heels would actually be completed.
Other things
Guys, I do not know when I am going to complete this. Unlike other projects, I am interested in finishing this and working out the kinks. I will not give any date, but I will try and come back and post updated shots of stuff. I think I've failed at this 90% of the time with previous work, but I can assure you not this time lol.
If you know you can change the color/design of the dress, I wouldn't bother doing that right now. Results can be........either good or bad. The final version would be fine though.
Didn't test it in game lol. Logged on my friend's account, but I had to update crap and I didn't feel like sitting there waiting for it to check then update the files. I will tomorrow though and if I find out it doesn't work ingame, well thats another project that goes in the scrapbook and I'll take the mod off my server xD. Should work though.......be kinda wierd if it didn't....
One last thing. Your favorite dead mod site lol, Shadow's Lair, will be recieving one final site update (visually). If you wish to see what the new site will look like, I suggest you go to my domain mainpage (that is www.shadow-ffxi.com ). For even further reference on how it will look, select Archlord Central site from the domain mainpage. The reason why I am doing this is because I'm retiring from web design. I had enough of it. So I will redesign the 2 remaining sites I control one final time and then no more web design for me. I would still update any site I maintain though.
That should be happening this week actually. As for mods, that won't be possible yet. I do not feel like reclaiming the mod throne and have the most mods a site could ever have just yet. Ok, I think I've said enough so this is Shadow signing off.
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