cloud's gear WIP comments and suggestions?

[Puerilis]

Re: cloud's gear WIP comments and suggestions?

I would also recommend removing the top waist band and try to combine the bottom waist band with the belt to make 1 large belt.

Yeah, It should be one large leather belt, similar to a weight lifters harness belt.

[dabadking]

Re: cloud's gear WIP comments and suggestions?

ok so far i got rid of the side flaps and changed the shoulder pad to look more like how the game did. Also i tried to just rephotoshop the belt to make it one but.. I guess ill have to battle with meta and hopefully I can get them down to one belt, as it LOOKED good from far away but...the belt was still there just as a shirt lol. just learned how to alpha hence the side flaps are gone. untill I get rid of the bottoms of the pants I wont be happy -_-

Also i think ill use meta on bronze leggings (boots) and get rid of that bump on the top then I can at least use them as his boots. The gloves will be last as im HOPING they will be easiest (black gloves with the metal rings on wrists can be done very easily with bronze mitten model hopefully) So far ive only made the pants and body armor (I only get to spend about 2 to 3 hours on occasion to mess with these so ..bear with me lol

I think my biggest dissapointment at this point is the fact that as far as i can tell, there is no way to have an actual chrome shoulder pad that reacts to the light as it happens.. it has to be painted on ...which to me...looks white but i took it from another in game model so ..it "shines" as good as the gear in game ...if you can call that a shine . other than that everything else can be fixed, its just a matter of me learning how to do that lol.

Still a WIP as far as im concerned, but heres the new pics of it and I might as well update the .dat file since I posted the original one anyways lol

P.S. I didnt add the head model as it takes away from the armor in pics i think.
I will also add a picture of what I am using as a reference (and yes i know my shoulder pad isnt pointy like his ...i tried but... I think ill need VRS and then ill use the drk Af shoulderpad) I also used a black bacground in the pic this time.. blue background with blue gear ..just looked bad IMO

[Nicolette]

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Should make clouds outfit from Advent Children.. it was more awesome, and less jumpsuit looking... plus.. leather. yum.

[dabadking]

Re: cloud's gear WIP comments and suggestions?

Should make clouds outfit from Advent Children.. it was more awesome, and less jumpsuit looking... plus.. leather. yum.

LOL, i wish ... as far as I can tell only one person can make a model that detailed...and thats this guy
http://www.thealienspy.com/jurai/for...p?gettopic=195
but if I could ..I most certainly would have made his advent children outfit....Also I may be wrong or maybe I just havent figured out how yet but... I think everything we make is only one side meaning.. it mirrors the one side so.. you cant put only one sleeve on him anyways ..but as far as im concerend ..this guy in that link is the closest person ive seen model something in such a hi resolution that the advent children outfit would look awesome...im going to read up on VRS for a bit and hope something will sink in lol...Ive only been making skins for a few days so .. I chose his gear from FF7 because its an attainable goal lol. If someone got the aldo model working for hume male I could at least try though lol... (the one with the cape hanging off of him) that would be a possible way to get that gear into a good skin ^^.

[Puerilis]

Re: cloud's gear WIP comments and suggestions?

Very nice update. For the "Chrome Dome" I'd suggest dodging and burning it, to give it that odd metalic look, and even make it look like its been through a few fights.

[Kittyneko]

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Anyways.. of the first post.. what exactly is the different between that and Bronze Harness with Beetle subligar? -.-

[Puerilis]

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Bronze Harness only has one shoulder Pad , Beetle has two.

[Ascher]

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I found this on a JP site, sadly no .DAT though, might help with textureing though if you need it, its a pretty nice model.

[Puerilis]

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UG Why does everyone make his sword a pale grey flat colored.

ITS MAKO TEAL DAMN IT. And it has a red handle.

[Monet]

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Thank you, Palette Nazi...

[Puerilis]

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Sorry >.> Fanboyism strikes at any time.

[dabadking]

Re: cloud's gear WIP comments and suggestions?

I found this on a JP site, sadly no .DAT though, might help with textureing though if you need it, its a pretty nice model.

WOW nice model man I gotta learn to make models instead of just skinning
hmm... on second thought it looks like the only thing he actually modelled (although im probably wrong as im still new at this) ...is that they got rid of the pieces that cover the arms and added the turtleneck part...not sure where I would add that though..the head model? they dun exactly have a neck model lol, or does that still consider the nexk, his body? that model looks fairly easy to make actually..other than the hair wchich looks pretty friggen cool to me lol. Also maybe just me but...I think the face is edited too...maybe not..making the belt look like that would be easy also ...but again I can only skin at the moment so ..may look like a double belt still...also If i did try to remake that style of a model ...would it upset anyone that ive remade it from that model considering the original author (even though its technically square-enix) never allowed me to do so?
Ill wait for feedback on that last part and if issok...then i may make a movie version as well ^^
btw heres my taru version XD (2 versions for taru btw just changed the shoulderpads is basically all) neither one have the side flaps, its just an old pic thats all

[Hyades]

Re: cloud's gear WIP comments and suggestions?

first off...this is the first gear i have made like this and while i dont think I did bad for only playing with photoshop for about a week, i KNOW it needs lots of work but seeing as how noone has done this to my knowledge i figured why not throw it up and get feedback (i may change the shoulder pad as i wanted it to be like the movie but ..may change it to be like FF7 game. Also i've only done the body and legs so far and as im not quite sure how to edit out pieces of armor.. it still has the flaps on it as well). It may not be that hard to cut peices of armor out but..i havent looked up how to do that yet sowith that out of the way ...any other comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

P.S. as this is my first post on the forum most likely my upload wont work ...we shall see XD

added the file since someone mentioned I should post it.... the colors arent exact but its decent untill I learn more about color editing


EDIT: 12-17-05 new version of this gear is available for download (huma male only so far) taru version is done but not as up to date as the hume version ..can update that if theres an interest in a taru version.

Hi

Yeah, just to let people know, jp done the FF7 and FF8 renditions for FFXI very long ago . Just that most don't know. I think I was doing Seifer myself back then and got everything done except his sword, Hyperion. Too bad I made it for male elvaan though lol.

As for your work, its looking good so far. I'm only going to comment on the body for now.

Its looking good, but if you want the exact replica (which no one has done imo), you'll need to make it look as close as the FF7 Cloud. I look at yours and Cloud and it doesn't match up. I'm not talking about the shoulder plate either. To me, thats the last thing I'd be worried about when doing a project.

Now I know thats probably not what you are aiming for as I did my own thing back then when making exact replicas of things. This is because its pretty tough to keep to the original since really, not much can be done due to FFXI's graphic engine. If they upgraded it, I could of probably got the exact replica of this.

Hmm are you planning to use bone gloves for Cloud's gloves? Hmm, while that somewhat looks close to Cloud's gloves, you may want to change that ;P. You probably are anyways.

The boots.........there are already boots like that.................or I guess it was a mod I had awhile back.

Other than that, it looks good. My feedback may never be nice, but I told people who come to me long ago that I am like this. It helps you in the end.

I did do a Sephiroth project long ago for Male elvaan, but no one has ever seen that old project since 1 1/2 years ago heh. The cape was really messed up. The only thing people see is the head model that I created.

I may actually create a Cloud head model for you just for old times sake, but I don't know if I can ever get to it. Its really easy . It would probably be found on my forums though. That's why I retired anyways, can't keep promises and can't work on this stuff anymore.

[Hyades]

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Hmm, thought I come on here and post this since I posted >,>. Heh, I guess people who don't know me was thinking I was lying about doing a Cloud head model. Guess you were wrong.

Not totally done and don't even tell me about bugs/problems with the model. I am 10 steps ahead of you on that. This is basically a rough draft.

Cloud standing


Cloud doing spinning slash


Cloud with shades


I will create my own suit for cloud. Dabadking's suit is good, but I like doing my own work instead of using someone elses. Not my thing. Its not done anyways so whats the point .

More info about this project is found on my forums which is found on my site. When I am finished with the project, the links for download will be on my forums. I don't go and post links to my finished work unless its on my site which will never be updated again. So its only going to be on my forums whenever it is done.

[dabadking]

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Nice O.o Take your time, I always like your work its coming along great I think ^^. Ill be sure to check your forums on occasion. Ive been addicted to Growlanser Generations lately so I havent been doing much modding either lol. Between Growlansers, and my PC monitor being down still.... even when i DO make models... they wont look as good as I'd like.. the monitor company hasnt even emailed me back yet so ...Dunno when ill be back to making dats full time again....Theyre taking their sweet A$$ time on replying lol.