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  • VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

    While many of you, if not everyone reading this message, are familiar and extremely experienced with Metasequoia, there is that other application, far more powerful in both scope and application, known as VRS.

    It can do a number of wonderous things, including increasing texture size from the standard 64x64 to up to 128x256, add polygons, remove them, and make actual skeletal changes. Unfortunately, it's all in Japanese, and I can't read a word of it.

    With the combined insight of those in the forum, I think we would be able to figure out how to make this work; How to create new polygons, vertices, exchange textures, the works. So, I ask the forum: Who knows how to get it to cooperate?

  • #2
    Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

    I've looked for a Link to it, anyways you could pass a link where to download it or upload it. I can't seem to find it ?
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    • #3
      Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

      This is the Japanese website. You should be able to figure out where to download it without too much difficulty by looking at the names of the links in the bar on the bottom of the browser.

      On startup it requires Login (Guest) and Password (Guest). It needs to be run in Japanese mode, with a Japanese font.

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      • #4
        Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

        haha lol thanks, well I had been to that site, but I did something normaly dont' do I was just tired and going through it so fast missed the link for download
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        • #5
          Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

          Ish must be a more complicated program but if The modelviewer was translated I dont see why this couldn't be.

          It would be much more usefull to use then Meta. either that or someone from the JP community could try to help. I wish I knew jp. >.<

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          • #6
            Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

            I'm studying japanese right now and if I get some time over I could have a look at this as a sort of practical practice of japanese reading.

            I'm not exactly sure about what you need translated though. Is it all the text in the program just? From screenshots it looked like mostly katakana, which is just farfetched english.

            I have my trusty jwpce to look up words with too, but usually it isn't the easiest to figure out which word it should be.

            There are probably people that are better at japanese than me around here, but I'll give it a try unless someone already done it around the time I get some free time for it.


            Hmm, after giving it a look it seems like the problem I expected happened. It requires asian font support and I haven't installed it and am not 100% sure where the CD is. Might take a while before I get this sorted out.
            Last edited by Mellowy; 10-03-2005, 02:02 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

              If you can translate the menus and buttons that would be great. That's the only thing that keeps me from using the program. >< Untill then I'm stuck using my other 3D apps..

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              • #8
                Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

                Well after much frustration and downloading different things, Then I realized I needed to enable the language bar so I can switch Languages in XP I've started Translating already.

                I'll Let you know when I get further

                Basicly I'm just using systran to translate *google uses their software*
                But I haven't beenable to figure out the program so i'm not sure what some things would be proper way to say in english. Because Translating doesn't always come out Exact english. like the close button translates to "The end of" well ya I can figure that out. Some i'm not sure about as to what they do in the program, but if Somone could help me who know's it, and can help maybe get better english translation that would be great let me know and I can send the text's to you to help

                Any Buttons i'm not sure about 100% is left with the Orginal text with (translation?) next to it. A Letter next to button is the Alt+(Key)

                Update - About 40% Done on the File/Edit, etc Toolbar.

                Screenshot
                Just an exmaple of what I got so far, But I wont' do it for Every Menu, Just to get the idea.
                Last edited by Kilandor; 10-12-2005, 08:22 AM.
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                • #9
                  Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

                  Update Main Toolbar 90% done All Buttons have a Translation. But not yet Tested.
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                  • #10
                    Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

                    Holy shit that looks great! Everyone in the NA community will love you . O.o

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                    • #11
                      Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

                      Main Toolbar - 90% All have been translated, or have A Translation next to them. Till I am 100% sure they are as listed the JP translation will stay. And I will Consider it 90% done.

                      It seems Rightclick Window's are next. Got a few done now

                      There is alot to translate so it will take some time. Alot of the translations i'm pretty sure what they mean, But i'm leaving them as the direct Literal translation, till i'm 100% what they effect. But Most I doubt I will be 100% on till its all or mostly all translated. Because I haven't actually been able to play with it and figure out alot.

                      The only problem I might see happening is see... The List of NPC's Characters armor etc is pulled off the server by a plugin. I'm not sure if it will be possible to translate it easily. Because then its stored in a file. But I will come to all of that last. Just having the program translated would be helpfull if not the armor/npc's
                      Last edited by Kilandor; 10-12-2005, 08:23 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

                        Kilandor, that's unbelievably freakin' awesome. As for the list, depending on the syntax of it it may be possible to shoehorn the Model Viewer list in. Which file is it, so I can take a look at it?

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                        • #13
                          Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

                          I just tried to add you to ICQ/Aim. Dunno if your on. I'll send you a Private MSG with My Info.

                          The file is Local DLL\EX\Tool

                          FFXIReadTool.ldl - I think pulls the update from the web *maybe* or It just loads the Dat from the game *I think it more so does this but maybe both*
                          FFXIWriteTool.ldl - I would assume it Exports the Model and everything Back Into the Dat
                          FFXIWriteTool.ldl - The File which contains the list. Open In wordpad to see it Properly formated. Unless you have JP text installed you will only see jibberish and stuff. On the left is the Armor/ETC/NPC probally, haven't looked throught all of it. on the Right is the Dat Location.

                          I think the .ldl files i'm guessing is just a DLL file renamed to .ldl. If so I might beable to translate them more so, and even find a way to do our own lists like from another server if its read from that.

                          Now... I think what could be done is, but it would be Time Consuming, Basicly refference ModelViewer list, and Put the names there for each dat file. It would take some time. But it would be easier than translating the whole list. Since we have it already translated

                          Now I do have a theory on how if we could do this to keep it from updating basicly. Basicly you would have your firewall disable any traffic to the interent that this program does. And it might work but would have to test it later.
                          Last edited by Kilandor; 10-12-2005, 08:23 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

                            Super Double Post: I've found this to be a fantastic resource for translating either single words or kanji.

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                            • #15
                              Re: VRS: Can We Figure It Out?

                              really great, i can't wait to try it out. good job

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