Input on Raising.

[WishMaster3K]

[Coppied from FFXIclopedia]

Color (UPDATED VERSION AFTER THE RAISING UPDATE)Verification Needed

* CHOCOBO COLOR IS NOT INHERITED
* Color is determined by the stats a Chocobo has right before entering the adolescent stage. Testing is still going as to what stats affect what color, but here is what I have so far...
* Red: Requires lv 4 affection. At least lv 3 strength, or lv 2 end/str. (40% chance)
* Green: Requires lv 5 affection, at least lv 3 end, or lv 2 end/str (50% chance)
* Blue: Requires lv 6 affection, a total of 4 levels in disc, recept, and/or end. (60% chance)
* Black: All we know is that it is rarer than the rest, and requires a substantial amount of affection, and some stats a certain level. We believe it may be just a lv 3 stat, doesn't matter what. (10% chance)

It's actually very easy for me to get black chocobos, and cant seem to get others aside from yellow. I used quested or bought eggs, and having high affection seems to help, and i had zero in all stats. Chocobo Egg (Somewhat Warm) from ISNM 75 does increase your chances of color chocobos--LeonCloud 22:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The % chance refers to the fact that even if you meet all the conditions for the color, there is still a chanc eof yellow. Thus if you have lv 3 recept, lv 3 disc, and lv 6 affection, there is still only a 60% chance that the bird will be green, and a 40% chance it will be yellow. This % goes up by 10% or so with every level of affection above the required you have. thus if you had lv 8, not 6, affection, the %chance would go up from 60%, to 80%. Smart move.


Recessive Colors

As you can see, some combinations of stats give you a chance at multiple colors. How do you know what color it should be? Some colors are Dominant, while others are Recessive.
For example, let's say your bird has lv 2 str, and lv 2 end. That means your bird, if it has high affection the day before its adolescent stage, it could turn out either Blue, Green, or Yellow.
BUT, Green is dominant over Blue, thus if you have lv 5 affection or higher, your bird will not be Blue. So what if you don't want a green bird, but blue looks nice? Simple, note the fact that blue only requires lv 4 affection, while green requires 5. simply abuse your bird down to lv 4 affection, and you will now remove Green form the possible colors, thus giving you the possible colors Blue, or Yellow.


My Chocobo is currently on Day 6 (meaning I just got the summary for Day 5). I'm behind because I totally forgot to check it yesterday, and I'm concerned that it might cost me.

Any input? I'm planning on doing Carrot Paste, Az Greens and Greg Worms so that I can take it on an extra walk a day.

[Neomage]

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I doubt most, if any of that is correct. I got quite a few Blue Chocobos with only "A Bit Deficient" END and 0 DIC or REP, and while Affection might have been high on some, I know on at least one it was way under 6 because I neglected it completely.

On my 8 or so Chocobos, all have been blue, and all except my first one where the product of a Blue/Blue parentage. This leads me to think that genetics do play quite a part in color.

[Yellow Mage]

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FISHMASTER!!!!!

As you can see, some combinations of stats give you a chance at multiple colors. How do you know what color it should be? Some colors are Dominant, while others are Recessive.
For example, let's say your bird has lv 2 str, and lv 2 end. That means your bird, if it has high affection the day before its adolescent stage, it could turn out either Blue, Green, or Yellow.
BUT, Green is dominant over Blue, thus if you have lv 5 affection or higher, your bird will not be Blue. So what if you don't want a green bird, but blue looks nice? Simple, note the fact that blue only requires lv 4 affection, while green requires 5. simply abuse your bird down to lv 4 affection, and you will now remove Green form the possible colors, thus giving you the possible colors Blue, or Yellow.

* Green: Requires lv 5 affection, at least lv 3 end, or lv 2 end/str (50% chance)
* Blue: Requires lv 6 affection, a total of 4 levels in disc, recept, and/or end. (60% chance)

No offense, Wishie (I've missed you, personally), but something about what you posted doesn't fit.

[KingOfZeal]

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I would have to agree with Onion. While I haven't raised any chocos since the update (which, by the way, I don't see any information about a "chocobo update" since I stopped raising mine), but all the chocobo's I have raised I've gotten the colors I want via breeding...

And, I'm about to start on another chocobo here shortly, a red one I got an egg for a little while ago.

[Yellow Mage]

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Hmm . . . @ Onion and Zeal:

Wishmaster's post proposed colors are not inherited, and we haven't exactly disproven it beyond an unreasonable doubt. I mean, what if stat growth tendencies are inherited? It may sound silly at first, but if a choco-chick raises its stats in a way similar to its ancestors, and Wishmaster's posted theory of the stats influencing the color if correct, then it may be that feather color is, indeed, not directly inherited.

Notice directly: apparently, affection plays a somewhat significant role in "bringing out the color" in your chocobo, and one could always try to raise the other stats on a choco-chick differently than its parents for a completely different color. It may be more difficult if stat-growth tendencies are, indeed, inherited, but, by Wishmaster's posted theory, it isn't entirely impossible.

[Neomage]

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While it has been proven that tendency to certain stats is inherited, as I have stated I have completely neglected a chocobo before and left it completely alone, yet it still turned blue.

[Yellow Mage]

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That anecdote could only possibly disprove the statement that Blue requires a significant level of affection to appear.

Sorry for being a contrarion.

[WishMaster3K]

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I explicitly stated at the top that it was copied from FFXIClopedia! Not my ideas. I just read what's there.

I have an egg that's from a Blue mom, and I got it via Jeuno Tour Plan.

I'm just going to focus on STR/END (Carrot Paste) and hope for the best.
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[KingOfZeal]

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Wish -- I know that it was copied from the wiki. I saw it there myself to get a better context.

I'm going to do a a little investigation into who put it there, and then remove it if necessary. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been removed already.

Edit:
After some checking, I see that this thread on the wiki forums is saying that genetics does work.

[Vyuru]

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FYI, I got my black chocobo by breeding two other black chocobo's together.

I forget exactly what the mother's stats where, but the father's states was mid Str, and hated his owner with a passion from what I hear.

[Tyros]

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I don't agree with that at all. My first bird was the egg from the quest in Upper Jeuno. I kept its plan really even with all plans for quite some time, so I got no stat gain, but it loved me. I ended that bird though at one step down from First Class in STR and END.

I bred that one with another black chocobo (With mid STR and END). The offspring was black which was put on a physical plan from the start. Ended this bird at First Class STR and END. This bird also loved me.

I bred my second bird with a blue chocobo that I got from an LS mate. The offspring was yellow and was on a purely mental plan. This bird learned Bore and Treasure Hunter. Ended up with First Class DIS and REC. This bird loved me.

My third bird was inbred with one of my second bird (Yellow bird (Black/Blue Parents) with Black bird (Black/Black parents)). Offspring was black and put on a purely mental plan. As soon as he learned both Canter and Gallop, I changed plans to physical. Ended up Above average REC and DIS and low (but not 0) STR and END.

I really think there are hidden Genetics. My third and fourth birds were both raised EXACTLY the same well through the adolescent stage and into adulthood where color is locked in, the only difference was Lineage.