Chocobo : [Care Plans]

[Saikou]

Hello !
Before reading this message, please take a look at this picture.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/images/..._Raising09.jpg

I'm a bit confused about the cares plans, because up to Carrying Packages (where major stats increase begins) basic care seems to increase every statistics without decreasing anything else than energy and affection. If I'm right, is it better to use basic care since listening music, taking a walk etc.. will decrease more stats than basic care ?

I'm a bit confused and I do not know if this image is accurate, but it does seem odd to me that basic care would do better than the various care plans available up to Carrying packages. What do you think ? Will I be better off using basic care plan until my chocobo is adult (while feeding food that increase stats) ?

Thanks !

[Jei]

Re: Chocobo : [Care Plans]

The image is also on S-E website so should be pretty accurate.

IMO, in order to max out certain status, the basic care plan just isn't enough. You have 60 days I believe before your chocobo stops developing status. Which is why most of us only pick 1 area of concentration for our bird. Physical, or mental, and concentrate our care plan around that.

[Anson]

Re: Chocobo : [Care Plans]

The image is also on S-E website so should be pretty accurate.

IMO, in order to max out certain status, the basic care plan just isn't enough. You have 60 days I believe before your chocobo stops developing status. Which is why most of us only pick 1 area of concentration for our bird. Physical, or mental, and concentrate our care plan around that.

I think he's aware of that, I believe that he was just wondering if there is any point in doing the "take a walk", "listen to music", "exercise alone", "exercise in a group", "play with children", or "play with chocobos" care plans if basic care gives you the exact same stat bonus, but for four of them rather than just two.

But anyway, that is a good question, maybe there's a definate answer to it, I'm not too sure, I'm not as knowledgeable about the subject as many other people I know are. But I do have a couple theories ragarding this:

The first theory is that the chart is not entirely accurate. Maybe the stats bonuses you get from those other six care plans are higher, but only by a very small margin. Perhaps it was so small that they didn't think that it was necessary to make another arrow size to make it seems as if the difference in stat boosts between the basic care and the other six were that large.

My second theory, which is a bit more of a longshot, is that basic care does give your chocobo just as much of a stat increase as the other six do. However, only having your chocobo on th basic care plan and nothing else could influence some of your chocobo's hidden stats that effect its behaviour. Maybe it'll get board with doing the same care plan every day and eventually become defiant and refuse to follow the care plan (which is when you scold it). Or maybe just having them on basic care all the time and then having them do one of the five care plans that increases their stats moderately or majorly will be too big a change for them and they'll start to frequently get sick or hurt themselves due to lack of previous exposure.

Anyway, those are my theories, although I probably am looking into it too much. But again, I'm not a complete expert on the subject, but maybe someone around here knows the answer to your question for sure.

[Sabaron]

Re: Chocobo : [Care Plans]

Basic Care, as far as I've seen, is very low growth on all four statistics. Any care plan above it is more effective. I belive the difference is in order of magnitude which I've gone into detail on in this thread.

[Joran Dax]

Re: Chocobo : [Care Plans]

Alot of people believe that the different attributes affect what color chocobo you recieve. Meaning, by focusing on one attribute and enhancing that, your bird has a better chance of having a specific color based on what stat you have boosted. Which would mean, according to the literature, that a chocobo raised on Basic Care alone would have even and equal stats across the board, be well balanced, and therefore end up yellow most if not all the time.

The reasoning behind this is that different care plans do affect the chocobos personality. A dominant endurance care plan leads to a patient chocobo, dominant strength leads to ill-tempered, and so on. Five personality traits, and five different colors.

Now seeing as once you reach the adolescent stage of development it has been said that your chocobos color has been locked in and is based on the color of the tips, it would make sense to say that if you want a colored bird other than yellow, you will have a better chance of obtaining one by using those other care plans like "take a walk" and "listen to music" to enhance the attribute and personality trait you want. Theres still an chance that the bird will end up yellow, but as it appears so far, the chances of obtaining a colored bird are increased this way.

[Macht]

Re: Chocobo : [Care Plans]

Yeah, basic care take up almost 0 energy but by the same flip of the coin the benefits are very close to 0 as well. It's almost like they get a 0.1 boost across the board.

However the other attributes while still low benefit you a lot more then basic care does. Listen to Music and Walks give like a 0.5 to a set of tributes and take 0.5 from other attributes.

The playing and excersises seem to be percentage based improvements but still small to the scale of it all. The play and excersises ones to benefit the most from you have to use the ones that your chocobo is excelling in (Because a precentage base increase from that will net you more of like 3-8 on a stat the chocobo is good in vs. the 1-4 it's bad in while loosing 3-8 from the one it's good in).

After that section it seems to get to hard based numbers again but are better netting you what seems like 10(medium) and around 20 (Large).

So choosing the care plans do have a purpose, and sticking to the choice of what you are going to raise benefits you a lot. Starting chocobo's though seems you need to choose to either Raise STR & DUR first or DIS & REC first. Then the offsprings you breed is were it seems you might be able to start mixing and do DUR & DIS, STR & REC, STR & DIS, or DUR & REC.

Probably with enough generations you might be able to get 3 stats to First-Class. But from start though it looks like you'll only be getting 1-2 at First-Class if you're lucky.

From the speed of increases though it seems if you were to try for a DUR & DIS chocobo you'd have to start with a STR & DUR route (You want to get Endurance as high as you possibly can). Then when it's an Adult hopefully Endurance has gotten close to First-Class, then it seems you'd want to mix Digging for Treasure with Excersise in a Group. What will end up happening is chocobo will loose First-Class taking a 20 point hit from Digging, but the Excersis in Group will slow the loss gaining back like 8-16 points if Endurance is near First-Class while losing like 1-8 points from Disscernment.

Problem is doing that though will take a lot longer to get them both near First-Class, probably have to carry over the work to an offspring.

[bikkebakke]

Re: Chocobo : [Care Plans]

Is there a topic somewhere of people posting their plans and how their choco turned out?

[Sabaron]

Re: Chocobo : [Care Plans]

Is there a topic somewhere of people posting their plans and how their choco turned out?

Most people have just started their own threads in "Everything Chocobos" to document and put their various "milestones" up as the chocobo grows.

[DaniBane]

Re: Chocobo : [Care Plans]

The image is also on S-E website so should be pretty accurate.

IMO, in order to max out certain status, the basic care plan just isn't enough. You have 60 days I believe before your chocobo stops developing status. Which is why most of us only pick 1 area of concentration for our bird. Physical, or mental, and concentrate our care plan around that.

Is that true? Because I recently got a chocobo to First Class DIS/REC, then flipped her to raise STR so she'd have high Dis/Str... But it seems to have stopped at Average... I thought maybe it's because I missed checking her for 3 days while my husband and I were on vacation... But maybe that's it.

Also, after I got First Class STR/END with my other black chocobo, I put her on Basic Care with the hopes that it would raise her Dis/Rec as well so she could learn an ability, but I've had her on that for at least three weeks with no change... Granted, I've only been taking her on walks to get the Canter story, no story reading (and I haven't met Brutus once, all she ever finds is items on ground now).