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  • #16
    Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

    In a way I can't wait until Comet has reached his potential. I have a lot of things to do all over lately, and it is a pain to run clear to Windy everyday to feed him. I'm on day 42 now, so hopeully it will soon be over.

    I may not use him much anyway, seeing as it is 1k per ride

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    • #17
      Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

      Kinda off, but since we're discussing mating and carrying over choco traits I thought I'd just ask on here.
      Are the choco eggs from mating chocos the same as the ones from the NPC and ISNM's? Have their been any reports of even warmer eggs coming from choco love?
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      • #18
        Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

        For those of you whose chocos have reached their peak, can you still care for your choco or does it automatically retire? Care, as in go on walks, watch over, compete, etc. I need to know because today is day 41 and I still don't have my choco whistle (long story). -_-;
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        • #19
          Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

          Someone on the ffxiclopedia forums did some dat digging and found these lines of dialogue:
          We will provide it with the best of care, then... Let us make a fine chocobo out of this egg.
          A chick has hatched from the egg!
          Just look at that color! It will not be long until your chocobo is fully grown!
          You have done a magnificent job raising this chocobo. Its abilities have reached their peak!
          Your chocobo's growth seems to have stabilized. The animal has developed quite a distinguished air.
          But, ≺Player Name≻... You still haven't named it.
          Well then, I shall give the poor animal a name. From now on, your chocobo will be known as...
          I am terribly sorry, but it looks like the time has come to part with your chocobo. It will be transferred to one of the Vana'diel Chocobo Society farms.
          I think from this we can infer that there are one or two more stages of raising before the chocobo retires automatically. It's possible that after the peak there is some natural degredation of the chocobo getting older, and when the chocobo reaches "stabilized" then the aging factor will cancel out the positive growth of the chocobo. That's my speculation.
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          • #20
            Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

            Originally posted by Lambeaus View Post
            In a way I can't wait until Comet has reached his potential. I have a lot of things to do all over lately, and it is a pain to run clear to Windy everyday to feed him. I'm on day 42 now, so hopeully it will soon be over.

            I may not use him much anyway, seeing as it is 1k per ride
            1k Per ride? Sorry where do you get that figure from? The whistle was free, and it only costs 500 gil to register the chocobo for use.
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            • #21
              Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

              Once the whistle is empty, it costs 25k to get a new one. 1k per charge.
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              • #22
                Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

                Really? Wow that sure seems to make the whole thing seem worthless. All that time, effort, and money to get a slower then rental chocobo for more money. Sorta feel cheated right now....
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                • #23
                  Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

                  Well for starters, these are first generation chocobos. By the time this next set is mature, there will probably be plenty of chocobos that are as fast or faster than rentals with longer durations, with abilities to boost speed and whatnot. Also, it's a convenience fee for being able to call your chocobo anywhere. Calling a chocobo from the leypoint is very convenient, especially if you're in a hurry, or if you're not subbing whm or rdm, in which case you'd spend a few thousand gil on oil and powder to get back to town safely anyway. It also sets an upper limit for birds at mea; if it's over 1k, just use your whistle. It's a ride back from Bibiki, Yhoator, Valkurm, and any number of other inconveniently located camps. You've got a two-way ride to quest targets like the sam-flag fight in Zi'tah, where normally you'd have to walk or warp back.

                  And .. the process of raising the bird in the first place was kinda fun, so if you enjoyed it it's not a waste even if you get nothing else out of it.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

                    Maybe those Alla posts have some truth. After I got the message, my strength went up to "Better than Average" the next day.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

                      Originally posted by Loial View Post
                      Maybe those Alla posts have some truth. After I got the message, my strength went up to "Better than Average" the next day.
                      Hi-jacked the one and only post that had intrest to me. As far as chocobo stages it's pretty obvious in the data the chocobo's stages are:

                      Egg
                      Chick
                      Teen
                      Adult
                      Prime (Peak of abilities)
                      Senior
                      Retired

                      Now what intrested me was:

                      DialogTableEntry 03878
                      Dセット並び:≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[3/21/111]
                      DialogTableEntry 03879
                      Dセット:≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[Y/B/b/r/g]≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 1)≻[Y/B/b/r/g]≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 2)≻[Y/B/b/r/g]
                      DialogTableEntry 03880
                      発現:≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[Y/B/b/r/g]
                      Translated would be:

                      DialogTableEntry 03878
                      D Set List:≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[3/21/111]
                      DialogTableEntry 03879
                      D Set:≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[Y/B/b/r/g]≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 1)≻[Y/B/b/r/g]≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 2)≻[Y/B/b/r/g]
                      DialogTableEntry 03880
                      Update:≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[Y/B/b/r/g]
                      As it seems to read to me is this:

                      Yellow chance to be Value 3
                      Black chance to be Value 21
                      Blue chance to be Value 111

                      My guessing is when Red and Green are introduced that set may look something like:

                      DialogTableEntry 03878
                      D Set List:≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[3/21/111/40/60]


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                      • #26
                        Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

                        My JWP program translated the kanji as
                        D Set Rank
                        D Set
                        Revelation
                        "Revelation" may be a poor translation in this case, though. From the individual kanji, I thought this might be the outward color appearance.

                        Y/B/b/r/g = yellow/black/blue/red/green
                        The full color selections are also listed in other (debugging) sections of the .DAT files. Since the full listing appears here, it seems likely that "3/21/111" is also a full listing. I'm guessing it's the color "DNA" of the chocobo. "3" could be a top-rank purebred chocobo where all 3 genes are the same color. Then the debugger just gets to choose parameter 0. If the debugger chooses a mutt chocobo, they choose all three parameters 0, 1, and 2. Just a guess.
                        Last edited by Nakti; 10-06-2006, 12:53 PM.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

                          Yeah, my SkyFire hit peak, but then his STR went up again, I guess it's tied to aging.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

                            Originally posted by Nakti View Post
                            My JWP program translated the kanji as
                            "Revelation" may be a poor translation in this case, though. From the individual kanji, I thought this might be the outward color appearance.
                            The full color selections are also listed in other (debugging) sections of the .DAT files. Since the full listing appears here, it seems likely that "3/21/111" is also a full listing. I'm guessing it's the color "DNA" of the chocobo. "3" could be a top-rank purebred chocobo where all 3 genes are the same color. Then the debugger just gets to choose parameter 0. If the debugger chooses a mutt chocobo, they choose all three parameters 0, 1, and 2. Just a guess.
                            Not looking at the info in a genetic standard. I'm considering it as straight forward info. structure of [3/21/111] looks much like an array in programming which can be formated as (2, 21, 111), or (2|21|111), even ({2|21|111|}).

                            With an array if you don't want it to choose outside (meaning don't want it to currently access red or green), then you'd leave those two out of it. In that manner when you got another array of [Y/B/b/R/G] and having it match values then R and G would default to 0 since the Array has nothing for them.

                            Basically how that 3 set looks to me is a GetInfo command, Condition Change to Info, and SaveInfo commands. So the 3 options effect the array for each one depending on what you do. The only detramental things you can do is personal care, care plan, and feed.

                            It's even further confirmed in my mind by the translations Set Rank in the terms of the command Rank in programming it's the same as Set List or an Array. The next Set command is to alter an array, and Revelation not really a programming command but definition is the same as to give a result of, In databases that is commonly known as updating the record. Command names common for them is Update or Commit Transaction (Likely closest for Revelation).

                            I should also state the "Set Rank" when I used various translators converted that Kanji as either "Set Rank" or "Set List". It did bounce the Rank part between two, I believe Set List more then Set Rank because the sites that translated it as Set List are also sites that tend to consider the characters before that current kanji as to better pick the more likely meaning.

                            Of course Bable Fish was only one that seemed way out there and says it translates to "Set line". Still pretty close to the meaning of it.
                            Last edited by Macht; 10-09-2006, 12:28 PM.


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                            • #29
                              My chocobo reached peak status the other day too, and right after her endurance droped back to Poor ><.. im not forcing her to run everyday ]:- ), to see if this "peak status" means they stop growing.. or if it just means shes in tip-top shape at that precise moment.. or whatever? SE is know to fail horribly in their translations..

                              For those who spent buckets of gil raising their chocobos:

                              Good going people, spend all your money on something that you dont yet know the ins and outs of! :D Also, buy all that expensive bazaar food that you can get on AH for half the price, or better, grow your own for the price of a wildgrass seed and a crystal ^^.

                              I used up half my whistle running in some zones to do quests, supply runs, and even HELMing in some large zones, i couldnt be happier with the uses it gives you, every 5 mins too, and dont mention teleport-yhoat being a pain to get to town to grab a chocobo, specially if you get agro in that zone.
                              Last edited by Balfree; 10-10-2006, 03:50 AM.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Peak Chocobo Abilities?

                                I understand that SE wants to make sure that rentals aren't obsolete, but 25k is a little much. I would think 10k is a better prices, still expencive but not overpriced. 1k a charge isn't bad, but not everyone is lv 75 and in a HNMLS.

                                EDIT: Perhaps there could be a new item introduced, which allowed calling every hour for 5k. This would let people who spent all that time raising them get a cheap ride, but if hey need to go somewhere and back, they better use a rental the first time.
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