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  • #31
    Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

    Originally posted by Vyuru View Post
    I kind of agree with you, but on the other hand, last night my chocobo was at full stamina. She listened to music this morning, and was upset the night before, and now cannot be woken up.

    Unless this is part of the white handkerchief quest, I seriously doubt this is part of chocobo raising because I have been very careful not to overwork my chocobo, you can see my diary to see what I was doing prior to her sleeping.
    Read your thing there you walked the chick on day 1? I could understand a horse, zebra, cow, etc.. doing that it's a must for them. However for birds? Sorry no birds/ducks I've ever raised had I walked or exerted that much stress on it from day 1.

    The common result in birds doing that is they become sleep depraved and would cause this kind of problem. New born birds for like a week need only 2 things, sleep and food. Anything more is putting unneeded stress on it. Again it's why I'm not ready to jump to such a conclusion that this is a bug.

    I've hand raised 2 dogs, 3 birds, 1 duck, and a cat from when they were new borns when they didn't have their mothers. Can say it isn't easy and it isn't the same thing between all of them. Cats you want to make sure they are up and can walk a little after like 4-6 hrs of birth, Dogs think it was 8-12 hrs, Birds shouldn't even expect for over a week, Ducks well something like 3-4 days.

    Anyway the point is pushing them to early can be a LOT of strain on such small animals, makes me wonder if the walking feature is an intentional trap if you do it to early.

    Either way, sorry if people think I sound like a negative nancy or whatever. I'm just not one to jump to quickly to a conclusion just because 3-4 out of like 30 days isn't going as I planned.
    Last edited by Macht; 08-29-2006, 12:59 PM.


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    • #32
      Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

      Well I checked my Choco today, Choco guy tells me she's sleeping, but according to my care plan for today she's listening to music, graphic shows sleeping bird with 98% full status bar. I'm inclined to belive bug. Reporting now.

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      • #33
        Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

        Originally posted by Jethreal View Post
        Well I checked my Choco today, Choco guy tells me she's sleeping, but according to my care plan for today she's listening to music, graphic shows sleeping bird with 98% full status bar. I'm inclined to belive bug. Reporting now.
        Same. My health bar is at about 98%. It's not moving at all.
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        • #34
          Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

          Wonderful...a bug comes up a day before mine hatches T_T So chocolixers and no sleep, poor little chick...they better fix it soon.

          And is anyone else reminded of that 3rd party disease that went across WoW a year ago, where people would explode and become skeletons? Good times, good times...

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          • #35
            Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

            Originally posted by Lilani View Post
            And is anyone else reminded of that 3rd party disease that went across WoW a year ago, where people would explode and become skeletons? Good times, good times...
            bahaha!

            Funny stuff!
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            • #36
              Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

              This IS a bug, GMs have said so.
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              Really, it's just like pretty much every question about this game that begins with "Why." The answer is "Because."
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              • #37
                Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                ZOMG!!!!

                Luna woke up!
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                • #38
                  Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                  TBH i have 2 more ISNM eggs ready to hatch if this one turns out to be a dud so i im not too conserned if a bug screwed it over on day 7, was planing to keep trying till i get a green one then il care for that one >.>;

                  To think it was me that it screwd it up but is was SE's fault all along.


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                  • #39
                    Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                    Don't be grouchy when I say this, but after going back over the finer details of chocobo raising released in the update notes, I'm not entirely sure that this is a bug either.

                    The first thing that struck me was noted specifically under "Caring for a chick" and it made me wonder.

                    Originally posted by SE
                    You will notice that more options are now available for chocobo care. Just remember that you cannot choose these options while your chick is sleeping.
                    They made it a point to say that you cannot change the type of care your chick gets while it is sleeping, as if chicks would end up in that state more easily or for longer than in other stages of development.

                    Then I scrolled back up to check the notes about "Types of Care." It seems that there are 2 different ways to care for a choco; One-on-one care with the options of telling a story, going on a walk together, etc., and then "Care Plans" which seem to be more indirect. See below:

                    Originally posted by SE
                    Chocobo Care
                    Visiting your chocobo and caring for it directly will create bonds of affection that cannot be replaced by even the most detailed care plan. It is not strictly necessary to provide this level of dedication; however, your loving attention will have a noticeable effect on your chocobo’s development. It is also possible to cure your chocobo of several different status ailments with direct care.
                    This makes me wonder if you aren't just supposed to be more intensively caring for chicks on a personal basis, instead of immediately setting them up on a routine Care Plan.

                    Actually, I haven't heard anybody say that they are caring for their chick directly. It seems like everybody has set their chick on a care plan already.

                    All this may be nothing, but it also might be something. Somebody could see if they could take their chick off the care plan and care for it directly (assuming it's not already in a coma) just to see if there is a difference.

                    Or maybe I just misunderstood this whole thing.

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                    • #40
                      Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                      Telling you, the more I hear about the condition and all the more I'm doubting it to be a bug. This sounds intentional to the game, also GMs can be clueless of the game mechanics we've already established this long ago. Though as I've said can't really blame the GMs because their allowance to interferre with game mechanics is and should be restricted.

                      The developers are the only true ones who know if it's working right or not, and none of them should be GMs.

                      For right now I'd chalk this up to someone freaking out for no reason, the chicken little effect.
                      Last edited by Macht; 08-29-2006, 02:53 PM.


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                      • #41
                        Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                        Ah but when you get 2 different status messages regarding the same chicks condition there is by defualt a paradox situation. After all my stauts says she's both asleep and listening to music, when SE tellsus that when the chick is sleeping they cannot engage in other activities. According to my 'plan' she should have woken up today and begun listening to music.

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                        • #42
                          Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                          Originally posted by Jethreal View Post
                          Ah but when you get 2 different status messages regarding the same chicks condition there is by defualt a paradox situation. After all my stauts says she's both asleep and listening to music, when SE tellsus that when the chick is sleeping they cannot engage in other activities. According to my 'plan' she should have woken up today and begun listening to music.
                          Yeah, you tell a sleeping animal when it should wake up. See how well that does after a while. Not like this is the first game to create those paradoxes, if I recall Star Ocean 3 did similar things with synthing items.

                          Actually with Synthing items if you didn't know what to look for you'd think it ails far to often to be worth doing. Thing I'm sure people missed for a while on it is the character expression which indicated you would of succeeded if you stopped the production on the right expression.

                          So basically in there it's saying they are still working on it yet also saying they've succeeded. Wait to long and succeed goes back to working again. As I see it the Care Plan is likely a loose suggestion, the chick and it health/attention/etc.. it gets is going to influence it's behavior and what it does follow to the care plan.

                          Remember there was an option to discipline the chocobo too, likely to straighten them up if they are disobeying (Say not following the care plan).

                          See the other reason I have a hard time believing it to be an error is my Father and "Step Mom". They had onced worked with companies doing those pet games were you raise them and such. They were with the company that did NeoPets and even Tamogachi, they told me a lot about plans and such they had with those. They mentioned care plans and everything, in their designs the care plans were only suggestive the pet could possibly do and could possibly not do.

                          So you end up with the event saying the chocobo should be listening to music, but when you check it the chocobo was to tired and didn't follow the care plan.
                          Last edited by Macht; 08-29-2006, 03:10 PM.


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                          • #43
                            Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                            Day 8, she awoke from a two day slumber, I think they sleep for longer amounts of time without the white hankerchief, I traded my before my 24h period(which is 3:34pm) and she was a wake and hungry full heath too.

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                            • #44
                              Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                              hahaha, i "gave up" on my choco last night cuse it wouldnt wake up >_> cute but pissed me off :3

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                              • #45
                                Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                                Originally posted by I'm just a guy View Post
                                hahaha, i "gave up" on my choco last night cuse it wouldnt wake up >_> cute but pissed me off :3

                                That's the traps intent as I believe it to be. It's not just a game but it's teaching the players pateince as well.
                                Last edited by Macht; 08-29-2006, 03:41 PM.


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