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  • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

    Originally posted by Nakti View Post
    Vaigrant,

    What are your Plans 0 to 3 now set to?

    What does it say for Current Plan? Are your reports corresponding to what the Current Plans were for the previous day?

    When your chocobo was last awake, how hungry or full was it?

    Do you use Watch Over?

    (Just trying to get info to help you snap it awake.)
    Well it was set to Basic Care or yesterday, walk today, music tommorow no rest in there. My reports for the previous day never mention any kind of fatigue, it was completely full when it just went Comatose.

    It was last awake 6 Days ago, I cant watch over it cause it has zero energy. It started after a cycle of Rest, Music, Music, Walk{Coma Starts here}, Walk, Walk{Grew Up}, Basic, Basic, Basic. For some reaosn everytime I change my plans it always makes it go to Basic Care for the next day.

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    • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

      Originally posted by Vaigrant View Post
      Well it was set to Basic Care or yesterday, walk today, music tommorow no rest in there. My reports for the previous day never mention any kind of fatigue, it was completely full when it just went Comatose.
      It was last awake 6 Days ago, I cant watch over it cause it has zero energy. It started after a cycle of Rest, Music, Music, Walk{Coma Starts here}, Walk, Walk{Grew Up}, Basic, Basic, Basic. For some reaosn everytime I change my plans it always makes it go to Basic Care for the next day.
      Now that with it turning to Basic Care on you I find intresting. There actually might be something in it doing that if it isn't user error. Whenever I change Plan 0 it always keeps what it's doing never just goes into Basic Care. The big question here looking at how you care plan has been is if the system intentionally will force a care plan if the one you did is reducing a stat to low. Reason for that question is because Basic Care plan raises all stats (Except energy).


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      • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

        Originally posted by Vaigrant
        Well it was set to Basic Care or yesterday, walk today, music tommorow no rest in there. My reports for the previous day never mention any kind of fatigue, it was completely full when it just went Comatose.

        It was last awake 6 Days ago, I cant watch over it cause it has zero energy. It started after a cycle of Rest, Music, Music, Walk{Coma Starts here}, Walk, Walk{Grew Up}, Basic, Basic, Basic. For some reaosn everytime I change my plans it always makes it go to Basic Care for the next day.
        Am I interpreting this correctly? You have:

        Report = Basic Care (yesterday's care plan)
        Current Plan = Walk (care plan for today)
        Plan 0 = Music (1 day) (care plan which starts tomorrow)
        Plan 1 = Basic Care (7 day)
        Plan 2 = Basic Care (7 day)
        Plan 3 = Basic Care (7 day)

        Are your reports corresponding to the previous day's Current Plan?

        Are you changing Plan 0 or Plan 1 when it changes it back to Basic Care?
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        • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

          im glad i havent had my chocobo yet or it might of ended up like this o no i think ive turned it in o noes i havent checked on it in like 3 weeks O MY!!!!!*runs to Xbox*
          i still get on here....even though it might not happen often i do!

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            Well Im on day 7 now of my Comatose Chocobo, And yes everytime I change my Care Plan for some reason the following Day is always Basic Care. But as of this point the damage is done to my chocobo, as in its probably gonna run away tonight seeing as I cant give it any care.

            I still say this is a glitch, cause 7 days is far to harsh especially when I kept it well fed and well cared for,,,,,

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            • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

              Originally posted by Vaigrant View Post
              Well Im on day 7 now of my Comatose Chocobo, And yes everytime I change my Care Plan for some reason the following Day is always Basic Care. But as of this point the damage is done to my chocobo, as in its probably gonna run away tonight seeing as I cant give it any care.
              I still say this is a glitch, cause 7 days is far to harsh especially when I kept it well fed and well cared for,,,,,
              Be intresting to see what happens after day 7. Care plans only have a 7 day limit, without specification on what you are changing in the care plan (meaning the detail is still to basic it leaves a lot of room for being user error). It's hard to help you out, if you just be more specific if you are chaning Plan 0, Plan 1, Plan 2, or Plan 3...

              I hate when the specifics isn't used because trusting such a statment as "I change my Care Plan" is just to damn general to help or troubleshoot.

              It's like going to a doctor and saying "I have an itch and won't go away". Ok were the hell is the itch, what have you been doing when you first recall getting this itch, what other health conditions do you have, and medication taken for them, etc.... Specifics even if it seems silly the damn specifics are so much more helpfull then a general statement.


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              • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                It usually happens whenever I change the plan its currently on, so if I had PLan 1 at Walk for 3 days and its day two, instead of moving to Plan 2 after changing Plan 1 it goes to Basic Care instead. So it seems if I change the plan its on it auto fills with basic Care.

                And Ive had it switchign what its been doing cause Ive heard some people say that snaps it out of the Coma. I doubt its from Botom'd out stats since I had it going for a balance so nothing would bottom out.

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                • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                  Originally posted by Vaigrant View Post
                  Well Im on day 7 now of my Comatose Chocobo, And yes everytime I change my Care Plan for some reason the following Day is always Basic Care. But as of this point the damage is done to my chocobo, as in its probably gonna run away tonight seeing as I cant give it any care.

                  I still say this is a glitch, cause 7 days is far to harsh especially when I kept it well fed and well cared for,,,,,
                  As Macht said, it's very hard to help you if we don't have more details.

                  1) Which Plan # do you keep changing?

                  2) What do you mean by "the following Day is always Basic Care"? Is Plan 0 set to Basic Care suddenly?

                  3) What does it say next to Current Plan?

                  4) Do you get daily reports for Rest or for Basic Care?

                  Edit:

                  Nevermind previous questions. I have some new ones based on what you posted.

                  1) Did you at any time (even if you changed it later or did it by accident) have Plan #1 set to Rest?

                  2) Are you changing Plan #0 at all?

                  Plan #0 is the plan that will be executed starting tomorrow.
                  Last edited by Nakti; 09-13-2006, 11:25 AM. Reason: I write too slowly.
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                  • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                    Originally posted by Vaigrant View Post
                    It usually happens whenever I change the plan its currently on, so if I had PLan 1 at Walk for 3 days and its day two, instead of moving to Plan 2 after changing Plan 1 it goes to Basic Care instead. So it seems if I change the plan its on it auto fills with basic Care.
                    And Ive had it switchign what its been doing cause Ive heard some people say that snaps it out of the Coma. I doubt its from Botom'd out stats since I had it going for a balance so nothing would bottom out.
                    Still not specific enough, from the sound of it here you are chaning Plan 1 and leaving Plan 0 unchanged. If that is the case Plan 0 is always defaulted to Basic Care when you first trade in the egg. Though if that is the case it should of only effected you like that for 3 days after hatching before whatever you set Plan 1 as took effect.

                    Also if energy is a different stat and not that stamina bar people keep interpreting as energy then having any care plan basic, walk, or music takes away energy. So it would bottom out energy while the others went up.

                    The only other alternative I can think is that your are doing:

                    Plan 0 - Walk (1 Day)
                    Plan 1 - Basic Care (7 Days)
                    Plan 2 - Basic Care (7 Days)
                    Plan 3 - Basic Care (7 Days)

                    Then on next day see:

                    Plan 0 - Basic Care (7 Days)
                    Plan 1 - Basic Care (7 Days)
                    Plan 2 - Basic Care (7 Days)
                    Plan 3 - Basic Care (7 Days)

                    and not seeing that Current Plan says (Walk).

                    As nakti has stated what Cutscenes are you getting.

                    As I would question what options have you go to while it's asleep? Mine when I had it Rest for 1 Day it woke up early after I exited from the "Care for your chocobo" section, didn't even select "Watch over chocobo" just a trigger that happened when I left that option menu.
                    Last edited by Macht; 09-13-2006, 11:25 AM.


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                    • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                      Originally posted by Macht View Post
                      Problem with this is that health bar I'm seeing people intrepretting as energy. I do not believe that is accurate, at best this is a stamina bar not the chocobo's actual energy. Chocobo's energy appears to be a hidden attribute you don't really see, like I stated before that "health bar" or "stamina bar" replenishes to full after 24hrs. and if it isn't starving.

                      If that was the energy bar then it doesn't make sense that Basic Care, Take a Walk, Listen to Music, etc... would not reduce that bar by any amount. In fact only thing that effects that bar and reduces it is the players actions of carring for the chocobo. So actual energy bar has to be a hidden attribute how it regenerates is probably also figured into why the chocobo doesn't wake when you tell it.

                      Only thing I see having to be confirmed though is that if in-fact Day 6 said Basic Care. Reading your comments in the post though what you are saying Day 6 was is likely just a typo.
                      Oops, guess I missed a few posts in this thread. Didn't see this until just now...

                      I believe the HP bar really is the Energy bar. The first day I turned the Egg in, the HP bar was completely and utterly full. Every day since then the HP bar is reduced by 1 pixel (yes, I can actually see that). I've been using Basic Care and the chocobo is either quite full or completely full at the end of the day.

                      Another thing I noticed was the one day I fed no pastes (only Zegham carrots), the following day the HP was under a kind of "Curse" effect. Usually I could do 4x walks (I actually do 3x walks + several watches), but I could only get 2x walks and several watches. The same 1 pixel was missing at the start, too.

                      Maybe the pixel is due to the minimal amount of energy the previous day's Basic Care used? Seems odd, though, to subtract it the day after. Maybe the energy consumption is greater when the chocobo becomes an adolescent.

                      There's definitely a relation between the bar and how hungry the chocobo is the following day. And I think (I'll try to find SE's text) there's a relation between hunger and how much energy the chocobo regains the following day.

                      Regarding the sleepy chocobo...
                      I don't believe there is any typo or s/he would've corrected it in another post. S/he mentioned the same facts multiple times.
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                      • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                        Originally posted by Nakti View Post
                        Oops, guess I missed a few posts in this thread. Didn't see this until just now...
                        I believe the HP bar really is the Energy bar. The first day I turned the Egg in, the HP bar was completely and utterly full. Every day since then the HP bar is reduced by 1 pixel (yes, I can actually see that). I've been using Basic Care and the chocobo is either quite full or completely full at the end of the day.
                        Another thing I noticed was the one day I fed no pastes (only Zegham carrots), the following day the HP was under a kind of "Curse" effect. Usually I could do 4x walks (I actually do 3x walks + several watches), but I could only get 2x walks and several watches. The same 1 pixel was missing at the start, too.
                        Maybe the pixel is due to the minimal amount of energy the previous day's Basic Care used? Seems odd, though, to subtract it the day after. Maybe the energy consumption is greater when the chocobo becomes an adolescent.
                        There's definitely a relation between the bar and how hungry the chocobo is the following day. And I think (I'll try to find SE's text) there's a relation between hunger and how much energy the chocobo regains the following day.
                        Regarding the sleepy chocobo...
                        I don't believe there is any typo or s/he would've corrected it in another post. S/he mentioned the same facts multiple times.
                        Never seen this pixel difference you talk about, even after using chocoboelixer it ends at the same spot. I do see the energy loss though from watching over the chocobo just 1 time, don't see how watching over it can take more energy then it walking in town, listen to music, or basic care.


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                        • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                          Originally posted by Vaigrant View Post
                          It usually happens whenever I change the plan its currently on, so if I had PLan 1 at Walk for 3 days and its day two, instead of moving to Plan 2 after changing Plan 1 it goes to Basic Care instead. So it seems if I change the plan its on it auto fills with basic Care.

                          And Ive had it switchign what its been doing cause Ive heard some people say that snaps it out of the Coma. I doubt its from Botom'd out stats since I had it going for a balance so nothing would bottom out.
                          Plan 0 is always the plan that will be executing the next day.
                          Plan 1 won't do anything until Plan 0 has been completely finished and then Plan 1 "rolls into" and becomes the new Plan 0.

                          As the plans roll over, Plan 3 will default to Basic Care (7 days).

                          Hmm. Not sure how else to explain this...
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                          • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                            Originally posted by Macht View Post
                            Never seen this pixel difference you talk about, even after using chocoboelixer it ends at the same spot. I do see the energy loss though from watching over the chocobo just 1 time, don't see how watching over it can take more energy then it walking in town, listen to music, or basic care.
                            Wow! You used a chocoelixir? Pricey! How hungry was the chocobo before you gave it to him/her? S/he was completely full afterward?

                            The pixel may just be a strange round-off calculation artifact, but I know it's there (at least on my screen - 1024x768) because it doesn't appear for any other NPC except the chocobo and only after the 1st day.
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                            • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                              Originally posted by Nakti View Post
                              Plan 0 is always the plan that will be executing the next day.
                              Plan 1 won't do anything until Plan 0 has been completely finished and then Plan 1 "rolls into" and becomes the new Plan 0.
                              As the plans roll over, Plan 3 will default to Basic Care (7 days).
                              Hmm. Not sure how else to explain this...
                              Best way i can think is an example:

                              --Day 1 (Current Plan: Basic Care)--
                              Plan 0 set = Walk (1 Day)
                              Plan 1 set = Music (1 Day)
                              Plan 2 set = Rest (1 Day)
                              Plan 3 set = Walk (1 Day)

                              --Day 2 (Current Plan: Walk)--
                              Plan 0 set = Music (1 Day)
                              Plan 1 set = Rest (1 Day)
                              Plan 2 set = Walk (1 Day)
                              Plan 3 set = Basic Care (7 Days)

                              --Day 3 (Current Plan: Music)--
                              Plan 0 set = Rest (1 Day)
                              Plan 1 set = Walk (1 Day)
                              Plan 2 set = Basic Care (7 Days)
                              Plan 3 set = Basic Care (7 Days)

                              --Day 4 (Current Plan: Rest)--
                              Plan 0 set = Walk (1 Day)
                              Plan 1 set = Basic Care (7 Days)
                              Plan 2 set = Basic Care (7 Days)
                              Plan 3 set = Basic Care (7 Days)

                              --Day 5 (Current Plan: Walk)--
                              Plan 0 set = Basic Care (7 Days)
                              Plan 1 set = Basic Care (7 Days)
                              Plan 2 set = Basic Care (7 Days)
                              Plan 3 set = Basic Care (7 Days)

                              So if you set your 4 plans to 1 day each then by the 5th day you're entire care plan will have Basic Care (7 Days).


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                              • Re: CSP - Don't let your chickobo catch it!

                                Originally posted by Nakti View Post
                                Wow! You used a chocoelixir? Pricey! How hungry was the chocobo before you gave it to him/her? S/he was completely full afterward?
                                The pixel may just be a strange round-off calculation artifact, but I know it's there (at least on my screen - 1024x768) because it doesn't appear for any other NPC except the chocobo and only after the 1st day.
                                Ehh, never payed attention to how it effects hunger. I just feed my chocobo whatever till that special effect around him stops occuring, then I usually just feed him a Gardiv Wildgrass which usually brings 1 last of those effects. I've seen like 4 different color effects Red, Purple, Blue, and Yellow when I feed it. Not certain what the colors signify.

                                Oh, also with that curse like thing on that stamina bar. I only experienced that one time when my chocobo was feeling a little under the weather. Otherwise I get all sorts of cutscenes every day at least 4 or 5 each day, half of them I have no clue what's special about them no stats seem different, that health bar is the exact same. Nothing apparent seems to change.
                                Last edited by Macht; 09-13-2006, 12:10 PM.


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