Bonecrafting 101

[onorok]

I obtained key item Bone Purification last night. Not really clear on what I can do with it aside from make smooth beetle jaw and vilified coral, which make items used on maybe two pieces of enchanted gear. So I don't know if it was worth it at this point, but the guild didn't offer me a new key item, which means I'm working on getting my glasses while I slowly skill up.

Leather is almost done for me, and I started clothcraft this weekend. A few people in my LS want shade gear for the Promyvion zones, but I haven't been able to figure out how high I'll need to get clothcraft to make it. Bonecraft for it has to be capped at 60 or less, as I got the recipe from one of the NPCs that just casts regular synthesis support. I'm guessing leather might even be capped close to 60 since stuff like the shade harnass uses tiger leather, which is a level 61 leather synth and my last skill up item for that craft.

Whoever said soloing did not exist in this game must not of been interested in crafting and skilling up.

[guyincorporated]

Congrats on the key item. I've been (SLOWLY) working my way up to the 40k I need. I'm at 14k now. Seems like they always want the horribly GP inefficient items lately. Oh well. Anyhow, I've slowed down bonecrafting in order to drag up leather. I hit 18 leather over the weekend (full moon darksday = 2 failures out of 50 dhalmel leather =D), so I plan to decend like a plague upon the dhalmels of buburimu one of these nights and just farm the living hell out of them. Bring a water belt with you (dispenses 40 dozens of distilled water!), 3-4 stacks of dark crystals and tea leaves. Craft the femurs into gelatin (fire + water + femur = 600-1000 gil depending on hq), the hides into stackable leather, and vend the meat in mhaura. Oh, and kill any wind elementals stupid enough to cross my path.

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Update:
Finished the dhalmel apocalypse. Got 28 hides, 24 femurs in 90 kills, crafted on the spot and got up to 21 leather. Now it gets ugly for another few levels.

[Sharma]

Ok, can someone do me a real big favour and sum up Bonecraft 1-70 in laymans terms? :p

Im a real crafting newblar.

[guyincorporated]

Originally posted by Sharma
Ok, can someone do me a real big favour and sum up Bonecraft 1-70 in laymans terms? :p

Im a real crafting newblar.

Go to mysterytour and print out the bonecraft recpie guide. with that next to you, read the entire thread. It is really good in my opinion. Comparative prices, pros/cons, support crafts. It is all there.

I don't want to just repost all the info in here already.

[onorok]

Capped leathercraft this weekend (from 54.6 to 60.0 in two long sessions), and gained about 1.4 in bonecraft. Going to make a push for 70 over the next couple of weeks, try and get the glasses, and work on clothcraft as my next support skill. Don't know what I should do next, either smithing, woodwork, or maybe goldsmithing? But leather and cloth seem to be the first two to get out of the way.

[simong79]

What guide did you guys use for the leathercrafting? I just hit 58 in bonecrafting last night. I going to try to get to 60 in bone this weekendm my leather is only at 9 so I would like to get that up higher. Have any of you all tried to make any shade gear?

Thanks again

[onorok]

Originally posted by simong79
What guide did you guys use for the leathercrafting? I just hit 58 in bonecrafting last night. I going to try to get to 60 in bone this weekendm my leather is only at 9 so I would like to get that up higher. Have any of you all tried to make any shade gear?

Dragonhope's guide, I think it was on Killing Ifrit originally, and updated a bit on their LS's forum at:

http://s7.invisionfree.com/TheCraft

Most of the guides I've seen are fairly similar, with a few differences. Leather had nice peaks where you were covering costs and continualy skilling up. And once you hit 52 you could just farm tigers and skill up when you had a cache of tiger hides; save the fangs for spike necklaces, or trade in 3 at a time for San D'Oria fame and 2100 gil.

[Roronoa Zoro]

im confused i go to mystery tour and search for bonecraft recipie guides i get stupid sites about buying gil and stuff that has nothing to do with ffxi

[onorok]

Originally posted by Roronoa Zoro
im confused i go to mystery tour and search for bonecraft recipie guides i get stupid sites about buying gil and stuff that has nothing to do with ffxi

Weird. Well, here's the direct link to their bonecraft page:

http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j...2Bonecraft.htm

I just checked it a second ago, all the bonecraft info with none of the "buy gils cheap" ads.

[guyincorporated]

I find guides to be less useful than you'd think. Certain suggested synths were not as efficient as others. After getting BURNED on some suggested synths below level 20 or so, I just started taking a hard look at each possible synth in my range. Seeing what they sell to at the guild, at the Windy AH, at the Sandy AH, at the Jeuno AH, seeing how much the ingredients cost at various stores...it can save you a lot of money. More importantly, it gets you more invested in and knowledgable about your chosen craft, instead of just making what some random guy told you to do.

My advice to new crafters (posted earlier): re-read this thread. Onorok, Targetmaster and I paced eachother through the mid-levels pretty closely and had some great ideas for cost-saving synths.

Progress update:
Finally got bit by the crafting bug again (bought my 2nd sniper ring and don't have anthing in particular to save for). Up to 23.5 leathercraft. Going to do parchment to 28 or so, then ram, ram, ram leather up to 35.

[onorok]

Originally posted by guyincorporated
Progress update:
Finally got bit by the crafting bug again (bought my 2nd sniper ring and don't have anthing in particular to save for). Up to 23.5 leathercraft. Going to do parchment to 28 or so, then ram, ram, ram leather up to 35.

Yeah, we didn't powercraft to 60, probably because we were all exping and farming in addition to the crafting. Congrats on getting the leather going again. I'm just doing a few bone patas synths when I can; tip there is to sell to Tenshodo's guild in Jeuno or Norg. The guild NPC that buys them back pays much more than other NPC's.

[guyincorporated]

How much do you lose (gain?) per synth on patas when vending them back to the tenshodo?

I'm going to start doing demon arrowheads for skill. Horns are 19k apiece, and a dozen arrowheads sells for 45k. that's about 3k profit per successful synth, with the potential for 18k botches (ouch!). Still, if I do it on the right day/moon combo with advanced synth, a 6 or 7 point gap is totally easy to craft through.

Also, hit 28 leather. I can start on ram now, which is pretty sweet.

[onorok]

Originally posted by guyincorporated
How much do you lose (gain?) per synth on patas when vending them back to the tenshodo?

The price has flucated a lot, not sure if it's based on day of the week and/or how many have been sold to the guild. But the price has been between 1350 and 1850. Materials and costs for my server are:

fire crystal - 185 (stack is usually 2200)
carbon fiber loop - 850 (stack is usually 10k)
crab shell - 200~600 (leveling in Boyoda Tree a lot, so just lot on them)
giant femur X 2 - 400~700 each

So ideally I'm only losing 500 per synth, but sometimes as much as 800.

Originally posted by guyincorporated
I'm going to start doing demon arrowheads for skill. Horns are 19k apiece, and a dozen arrowheads sells for 45k. that's about 3k profit per successful synth, with the potential for 18k botches (ouch!). Still, if I do it on the right day/moon combo with advanced synth, a 6 or 7 point gap is totally easy to craft through.

I did scorpion masks. If you can make ram leather now, it's just cheaper and less risky, but demon arrowheads to pull in some profit. Luckily the 5 or 6 synths I did, I had no failures. But the ones I did for profit, I was getting smoked out of the AH by the regular suppliers continually dropping the price on their stacks.

[Fire]

Am now 91.8 Bone / 52.6 Leather / 45 wood / 22 cloth / 10 gold

and well.......

4 failed harness's and about 30 successful and 1 HQ

1 fail on lightning day, 3 on earth day one of which was full moon

It's just my opinion but crafting in this game just seems to be whether or not SE wants to say Fuck you now or whether they wanna say it to you later. Failing a Lv69 synth at 90+ skill + support + support items on a full moon earth day the element of the crystal is fucking retarded.

But hey on the other hand its not my fault I failed its just bad luck...... Shrug that doesnt bring back the 24+mil lost because of some lame BS.

Don't tell people you can make stuff unless your ready to deal with the possible failures. Obviously I am not and I'm fairly bitter about the crafting in this game now.

[Fire]

hmmm.....

this site is so much help i hope you all use it

http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j.../us/index.html
http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j.../us/index.html
http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j.../us/index.html
http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j.../us/index.html

Now.... This is Just my Personal Opinion on how to Level up.

I know its not pretty but w/e is 4:30am;;
Dear god it looks worse and worse everytime I change it

*Use advanced Support // **try desynth to get item back

Item Lv cap Crys
Ingrediant

Bone Hairpin -4- Wind
--->Bone Chip
Bone Arrowhd.×6 -9- Wind
--->Bone Chip ×2
Bone Ring -17*- Wind
--->Sheep Tooth+Bone Chip
Beetle Ring -25*- Wind
--->Beetle Jaw
Horn Hairpin -29- Wind
--->Ram Horn**
Horn Ring -37*- Wind
--->Fish Scales+Ram Horn
Horn Arrowhd.x6 -43*- Wind
--->Bone Chip+Ram Horn
Horn -47- Wind
--->Beetle Jaw+Ram Horn
Scp. Arrowhd. x6 -53*- Wind
--->Bone Chip+Scorpion Claw
Scorpion Ring -60*- Wind
--->Scorpion Shell**
Bone Patas -68*- Fire
--->Crab Shell+Giant Femur ×2 +Carbon Fiber
Coral Mittens -74*- Earth
--->Coeurl Leather+Coral Fragment+Wyvern Scales (would stop this around 71~72)
Tigerfangs -79*- Fire
--->Carbon Fiber+Blk. Tiger Fang ×2+Scorpion Shell
Eremite's Ring -82- Earth
--->Hermit's Ring+Sheep Tooth
Dragon Mask -87*- Earth
--->Sheep Leather+Wyvern Scales ×2
Carapace Gauntlets -92*- Earth
--->Leather Gloves ×2 + H. Q. Crab Shell ×2
Carapace Helm -93- Earth
--->Copper Ingot+ H.Q. Crab Shell ×2 + Sheep Leather + Ram Leather


Thats where I currently am~ well....
This May not be the cheapest way but it was the fastest. I am pretty sure you will break even untill the coral mittens though.