Bonecrafting 101

[Zelld]

OK quick question:

what would be the best recipe to get over the hump from 29? was trying beetle arrowheads, but, the skill ups are few and far between.

[Target_Master]

Beetle Mittens 30 Leathercraft (8) Earth Crystal Lizard Skin x2, Beetle Shell x1
Beetle Mittens +1 30 Leathercraft (8) Earth Crystal Lizard Skin x2, Beetle Shell x1
San d'Orian Horn 30 Wind Crystal Royal Spearman's Horn x1, Giant Femur x1
Kingdom Horn 30 Wind Crystal Royal Spearman's Horn x1, Giant Femur x1
Beetle Gorget 31 Earth Crystal Beetle Jaw x2, Beetle Shell x1
Green Gorget 31 Earth Crystal Beetle Jaw x2, Beetle Shell x1
Great Bow 31 Woodworking (38) Wind Crystal Chestnut Lumber x2, Velvet Cloth x1, Scorpion Claw x1, Coeurl Whisker x1
Great Bow +1 31 Woodworking (38) Wind Crystal Chestnut Lumber x2, Velvet Cloth x1, Scorpion Claw x1, Coeurl Whisker x1
Beetle Leggings 32 Leathercraft (8) Earth Crystal Lizard Skin x2, Beetle Shell x1, Beetle Jaw x1
Beetle Leggings +1 32 Leathercraft (8) Earth Crystal Lizard Skin x2, Beetle Shell x1, Beetle Jaw x1
Beetle Arrowheads 33 Wind Crystal Bone Chip x1, Beetle Jaw x1

Those are your options. Beetle Armor's good to make if you have some points in leather craft because it all sells pretty fast. Especially in Jeuno cause of Qufim.

If you can't make that though I'd say you should stick it out with the Beetle Arrowheads. If you're using adv support trying making some arrowheads without it. If you're only 4 levels below what you're trying to make then getting adv support could be the factor that's slowing down your skill up rate. Have fun!

[guyincorporated]

Skillups are based on the relative distance between your skill and the skillcap on your recipe, its not based per-recipe.

That being said, I'd reccomend sticking w/ arrowheads, assuming you sell them in sandoria. If you do, you essentially break even, if I remember correctly. Plus they sell really quickly.

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[Target_Master]

What you say about skilling up confuses me although I think you're trying to say the same thing that I did because you misunderstood me.


Zelld is at lvl 29 for skill point. He will skill up faster if he makes something of a higher level. Aka he'll gain more points crafting beetle arrowheads because that's a level 33 synth rather than crafting a Sandorian Horn which is a level 30 synth

It essentially works just like skilling up combat skills. If you fight something weaker than you your skill won't raise (unless they're really low).

Now, he should be getting an average of 0.2 for every 2-3 synths making beetle arrowheads providing he's not using advance support (because it makes a difference) and he's taken the exam.
I forgot to mention earlier, if you're already at lvl 30 skill points and you haven't taken the exam to reach the next rank you won't get any more skill up points, happened to me too :p

Have fun!

[Target_Master]

I did more skilling up today, no adv support and 64% watersday, lol... I was in the mood to blow gil.
Funny thing is that my success rate was acutally really good and I skilled up to 48.4. Now I can get the next rank and making scorp arrowheads for hte next 5 lvls will be a breeze!

[Target_Master]

Woooo, more skilling up!

14% lightsday right before the servers shut down and now I'm sitting at lvl 50 bonecraft. I have to make one of them carapace gorgets to advance now. Prices for the items in windurst are nasty, 7k for iron chain and 1k for each crabshell.

However... in bastok it's 4,000 for iron chain and 500 gil for each crab shell, lol.

5,000 > 9k

I'll be done with scorp arrowheads by the end of the week pending on when I play next. Then it's the bloodstones which I can sell to all the small cities then scorp rings which I can synth and desytnh for a small loss than selling back to the guild... plus you skill up on the desynth too.

[ShadowstalkerXI]

.... wow

Wow I never expected this thread to get this big..... I was just bored because of an update...

Well for all you aspiring Bonecrafters I am now 92 bonesmithing so expect a new update upcoming soon.

BTW: Some ppl may say that Bonecrafting doesnt make much money. WRONG.

Sample transaction between a random customer and myself:

RandomGuyA: Here you take this Venomous Claw, these 2 Ram Leathers, and these 2 Scorpion Shells.

Shadowstalker: Lemme just go get a terra crystal.

(Synthesizes Scorpion Harness)

RandomGuyA: Heres 300k for your trouble

(Synthesizes Scorpion Harness +1)

RandomGuyA: You are a GOD! Hands over between 2-4 million gil






Thats all hypothetical of course most times ppl cant afford to pay for the +1 I made so I sell the harness, buy more materials, and come out a few million ahead.

Bonecrafting takes a lot of time and money to level up but it is totally worth it. I am going to write up a comprehensive guide to bonecrafting on my spare time, including estimated cost, guild points, and more so keep checking it out.

So far my tally on harnesses for all those curious:

34 Successful harnesses
5 Unsuccsessful Harnesses
3 HQ harnesses

I will also include a small leathercrafting guide to go with it, I leveled Leathercraft to 68.

(Yes I have no more levels that I can take a craft over 60 but I count it worth it)

[dRqmist]

Great Bow 31 Woodworking (38) Wind Crystal Chestnut Lumber x2, Velvet Cloth x1, Scorpion Claw x1, Coeurl Whisker x1
Great Bow +1 31 Woodworking (38) Wind Crystal Chestnut Lumber x2, Velvet

hey out of curiousity, where did u find this info? I was lookin at mysterytour's guild list but it wasnt listed... man so i guess this means i have to lvl my bone to 60+ to synth greatbow +1...

[onorok]

Re: .... wow

Originally posted by ShadowstalkerXI
So far my tally on harnesses for all those curious:

34 Successful harnesses
5 Unsuccsessful Harnesses
3 HQ harnesses

I will also include a small leathercrafting guide to go with it, I leveled Leathercraft to 68.

What do you do in the cases where you are unsuccessful? Did you lose the venomous claw? And if so, did you have an agreement with the "client" beforehand, something like "you accept the risk of me failing this synth"? And do you recommend leveling leather to 60 before taking on bonecraft again? Right now all the skill-up synths look super expensive, and I'm completly broke right now.

Oh yeah, and is anyone getting requests for synths? I've had one or two, and asked for the materials. The people have offered money, but what's a good figure to ask for if it's some random person? Ask for materials and 10% of the AH cost of the item? And what about requests for HQ items? Do you ask for a stack of materials, give the person the first HQ and then keep the remaining materials, if there are any?

[Target_Master]

hey out of curiousity, where did u find this info? I was lookin at mysterytour's guild list but it wasnt listed... man so i guess this means i have to lvl my bone to 60+ to synth greatbow +1...

I'm not sure but the info looks like it was taken from ffxi.alakzham or whatever the site it.

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How come you're so broke onorok? Are you broke from skilling up or have you been spending cash on other things too?

I have about..... 90k in cash right now with about... 29 stacks of scorp arrowheads to sell which is 2k+ for each one so in total that's........ at least 148k.

It would be far less except I sold two reflex rings today so that gave me an extra 40 k, then there's the other random things i sell in the AH from time to time.

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The only people who request me for synths are my Linkshell members. If it's a LS members they pay base cost of materials. If a LS member wants me to try get an HQ item they pay base cost of materials until they get the item they wanted and I'd let them keep all the unused ones unless they were freely offered.

Now if it was some random person asking. I'd get them to buy the materials and based on how much they're saving i might charge a few hundred gil, but I also might not care and do it free.
.....I'd probably do it free. As long as they don't care that any potential fail lays on their pocket then I'll make anything for anyone as long as they don't expect to synth for them the whole day or anything

[onorok]

Originally posted by Target_Master
[I]How come you're so broke onorok? Are you broke from skilling up or have you been spending cash on other things too?

Hit 50 with PLD but also playing WAR, so I'm trying to upgrade gear, but still have all my 41-49 gear for WAR till that hits 50. And I'm usually tanking as WAR/NIN so I have shihei, food, etc. And blowing like 10k a run leathercraft skill-ups. Scorpion arrowhead market is oversaturated too, best you can get is 1500 per stack, but I can get 600 a scorpion claw bazaaring in front of bonecraft guild. I'm basically farming the next week and a half though. Might make some spike necklaces the next full moon, but they usually sell for 9k at any AH.

If I sold all the crystals I have on mules, I'd probably be at 50k+, but trying to save for leathercraft.

[Target_Master]

Ah I see, tough luck with the scorp arrowheads. On my server they go for 1900-2300 and scorp claws go from 400-800 so it's almost always profitable.

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In other news, I hit 53 bonecrafting so it's on to blood stones for the next 4 levels.
Good thing.... they sell in all 3 starting cities plus jeuno
Bad thing... unless your farm femurs you lose about 500 gil per synth. Give or take

Oh well... I'll just fund my leveling with the gifts called spike necklaces, mine sell for 12k in windy, 9k in jeuno. Jeuno sells fast, Windy sells high. Other cities = meh.

[Target_Master]

btw, I have 150k with all my arrowheads sold. how much will it cost to close the gap to 60? Just looks for an estimation from those of you who already reached that level.

[guyincorporated]

You poor bastards! Scorp. arrowheads are 2500-3500 on fairy! I've got (literally) 34 stacks of them that I'm waiting to sell because the price has been in the 2500-3000 range lately and I'm stingy.

Anyhow, I've been farming up some of my stuff and crafting in the field, but trying to do scorpion rings 7 levels below the cap without synth support is rather difficult. Thank god for those pimpin' sunglasses. =D

[Target_Master]

Yeah, I've come to find that people on my server are generally pretty stingy but oh well, whatcha gonna do.

If you're at level 53 like me why don't you do bloodstones (level 57 cap) and then do scorpion rings?

Blood Stones are the level 1 items which give +5 hp. So they sell in just about every city at a regular interval.
You could skill up far easier if you used that method. Whatever you do is your choice but if I were you and went straight with scorpion rings then I'd only synth on 100% windsday or lightsday (unless of course you don't care about failures) then it'd be anytime darksday or iceday.