HQ at level 10?

[Evion]

Hello All,

So I'm slowly going through Clothcraft. Yesterday I was level 9, on my way to 11 via Hachimaki. I got 10 and went to Windy to release the cap with a cape. While there, I got some advanced support and started making more. Wouldn't you know it, I HQed 2 out of the next 15 it took me to get to 11. I was told that you had to be a certain level to HQ something. Some said 20, others said 28. Well, I'm proof that you can HQ something at level 11 while at level 10. Any comments on HQing stuff?

Thanks,

Evion

[Tsrwedge]

Re: HQ at level 10?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/High_Quality_Synth

[Evion]

Re: HQ at level 10?

Well... I was hoping that some people could share some HQ experiences with me so I could learn some things first hand. FFXI Encyclopedia is nice with percentages and all, but we all know how wrong they can be. Especially drop rates and HQ percentages...

[Mhurron]

Re: HQ at level 10?

It's random, it's just being various milestones above the cap starts changing the odds in your favor.

Oh, and those percentages for HQ and Drops are correct for things that have been in the game for a while. Most people thinking they are wrong do not understand probabilities.

[Evion]

Re: HQ at level 10?

Thanks Mhurron, you're probably right. Although, I know many people that didn't get a drop on 10 tries when it was supposedly 1/5..

[Mhurron]

Re: HQ at level 10?

Although, I know many people that didn't get a drop on 10 tries when it was supposedly 1/5..

You would be one of the people that don't understand probabilities.

[eticket109]

Re: HQ at level 10?

Thanks Mhurron, you're probably right. Although, I know many people that didn't get a drop on 10 tries when it was supposedly 1/5..

Just as many people went 1/1 or 1/2... it all evens out in the end. In my opinion though, drop rate percentages just give a general idea as to how high you should get your hopes up before they get shattered.

[Nuriko]

Re: HQ at level 10?

Thanks Mhurron, you're probably right. Although, I know many people that didn't get a drop on 10 tries when it was supposedly 1/5..

There's slightly better than a 1 in 10 chance of that happening, actually ... the chance that you won't get the drop is 4/5, so the chance you won't get it 10 times in a row is (4/5)^10. (4/5)^3 is close enough to .5 for demonstration purposes (it's .512), so (4/5)^10 is about .5*.5*.5*(4/5) = .125 * 4/5 = .1

Now, after 10 tries, you might feel it owes you, but the game doesn't pay the least bit of attention to what came before in this context...

[Icemage]

Re: HQ at level 10?

Regarding the HQ at level 10 on a level 11 synth, I guarantee it was synthed on a day opposed to the crystal. There is a very, very small chance (~1%) of HQ on any synth when you synth on a day which is strong against the synth element (Windsday for an Earth synth, for instance).

I'm not sure if weather affects this as well; it might. I haven't tested it enough to find out for sure.


Icemage

[Feenicks]

Re: HQ at level 10?

Anything's possible when crafting although the chances are very slim with some occurances. I HQed my very first cooking synth when I was at skill 0 - Roasted Corn I think it was.

[Neomage]

Re: HQ at level 10?

There's slightly better than a 1 in 10 chance of that happening, actually ... the chance that you won't get the drop is 4/5, so the chance you won't get it 10 times in a row is (4/5)^10. (4/5)^3 is close enough to .5 for demonstration purposes (it's .512), so (4/5)^10 is about .5*.5*.5*(4/5) = .125 * 4/5 = .1

Now, after 10 tries, you might feel it owes you, but the game doesn't pay the least bit of attention to what came before in this context...

Sometimes though I iwsh it did...

[Effedup]

Re: HQ at level 10?

Just as many people went 1/1 or 1/2... it all evens out in the end. In my opinion though, drop rate percentages just give a general idea as to how high you should get your hopes up before they get shattered.

Good way to look at it. In my LS, my bad luck as concerns FFXI is a common theme. For instance, for Sandoria Mission 1-1 you need to get an Orcish Axe. The person that got me playing the game (and subsequently helped me through most of the early missions) told me that Orcish Axe's drop "like water", and that it would take us "10 minutes" to get an axe.

2 or 3 hours (and prolly 50+ Orcish Fodders) later we finally got one...

I think the game just doesn't like me. I know it's categorically impossible, but one does get a gut feeling when it's a constant thing. Don't even get me started on how many times I killed Ashmaker going for my Priest's Robe, and whereas most people can bang out their Kazham keys in a couple hours (with help, of course), in my case it was a weekend long affair. Gotta love it ^^

[Armando]

Re: HQ at level 10?

I once killed Leaping Lizzy 20 times in a row with no drop.

Fun times. But yeah. Sometimes it happens. And let's be honest: we often remember those "omg this is bs I should've gotten this hours ago" moments more than those "lol got it on my first drop? ok cool let's get out of here" moments.

[Effedup]

Re: HQ at level 10?

I once killed Leaping Lizzy 20 times in a row with no drop.

Fun times. But yeah. Sometimes it happens. And let's be honest: we often remember those "omg this is bs I should've gotten this hours ago" moments more than those "lol got it on my first drop? ok cool let's get out of here" moments.

That's true. It's frustrating as all hell sometimes, but then again, for every person like me with crappy luck there's someone with pretty good luck out there. I took a new LS member out recently on a key run myself, and we got all 3 in like 2 hours. At least I didn't have to waste a weekend doing it a second time ^^

Gonna need to work on getting a brown belt at some point (dont wanna spend the gil)...I shudder to think how bad that's going to be...