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Lets say you have lvl 60 woodworking and are attempting to craft an item that is lvl 9, since you are 51 levels above the item you are "supposed" to have a 50% chance of hq. Now lets say the main craft is woodworking 9 and the secondary craft is smithing 5, if your smithing is lvl 5 do you still have a 50% chance of hqing the item or would you need to have lvl 56 smithing to be able to do so?
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"There will come a day when the world will realize that Superman can no longer create miracles. If my name was Superman, that day would be today." 4/29/2009 - Me
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Re: Question about HQ's
The odds of something working out were arrived at by analyzing a large set. So being 51 levels over the limit with "50% chance of HQ" it would still not be surprising to do 5 HQ's in a row, or no HQ's in 10 synths. Do 1000 synths though and you'll notice that about half were HQ's.
X% chance of anything does not mean a particular outcome will happen X times, but that there is an X% chance of it happening every time you do it.
I believe that synths that have subcrafts also need the subcraft to be leveled up to get the higher chance of getting a HQ. -
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That's what I thought as well, but saying I usually dont craft too many things that have subcrafts, I never thought about it. At least until i started leveling smithing again the other day.{New Sig in the works}
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"There will come a day when the world will realize that Superman can no longer create miracles. If my name was Superman, that day would be today." 4/29/2009 - Me
Originally posted by AksannyiOriginally posted by SolymirComment
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Re: Question about HQ's
Yes, you must break the HQ Tier for all subcrafts to expect the HQ rate for that Tier.
Example: It is possible to break Tier 31 (25% HQ rate) on Scorpion Harness, but not on Haubergeon. As a result, the price of HQ relative to the price of NQ (which is a pretty good measure of how "difficult" an HQ is for a synth) is much higher with Haubergeon +1 than it is for Scorpion Harness +1.Lyonheart
lvl 75 WAR, 75 BST, 75 BLM, 75 NIN, 47 SCH
Cooking 100.0+3+3, Culinarian's Signboard, Raw Fish Handling, Noodle Kneading, Patissier
Fishing 60
Lakiskline
Bonecrafting 100.0+3+3,
Leather 60+2, Woodworking 60, Alchemy 60
Smithing 60, Clothcraft 55, Goldsmithing 54.1, Cooking 11
Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, ChainworkComment
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Re: Question about HQ's
This is one of those things that I've always been curious about, but promptly forget, since I rarely synth money items that have subcrafts.Generic Info!
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Re: Question about HQ's
Among Bonecrafters, it's common knowledge that the leathercraft level required for Scorpion Harness was the "Big Lie" for a long time. It was reported as being in the 40s at one time, so that certain players could overcharge on the HQ (if everyone thought it was Tier 11 recipe, then crafters could charge Tier 11 prices).
Every time someone tried to post the true support craft level for the recipe at Alla, it would get rated down to sub-default.Lyonheart
lvl 75 WAR, 75 BST, 75 BLM, 75 NIN, 47 SCH
Cooking 100.0+3+3, Culinarian's Signboard, Raw Fish Handling, Noodle Kneading, Patissier
Fishing 60
Lakiskline
Bonecrafting 100.0+3+3,
Leather 60+2, Woodworking 60, Alchemy 60
Smithing 60, Clothcraft 55, Goldsmithing 54.1, Cooking 11
Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, ChainworkComment
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Re: Question about HQ's
There is a lot of information on Alla regarding synthesis and HQ.
Alla Crafting Threads
Bear in mind there is about as much myth as fact. You should more interested in the surveys performed on HQ items rather than "what people say". There's a lot of good info there.
Here also is a copy of one of Eruntalon's surveys of Woodworking preserved at Spielman's Mog (A Ranger Related site):
Eruntalon's HQ Survey in Woodworking Relations of Moon Phase and Day
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