Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

[Sabaron]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

It has come to my attention from reading the wiki.ffxiclopedia.org Gardening pages that the highly prized, Gregarious Worm that, according to the Chocobo people at the stables, re-energizes your Chocobo comes from the "None" recipe. Therefore, my further experiments are going to focus on the production of worms over 15-20 pots. I think I'll probably keep at least 5 pots running carrots/medicinal greens, maybe more, so that might hamper my worm-growing efforts until the carrot/greens markets settle down into a stable mode.

[Nakti]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

Latest batch of results:

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Pot Planted Fertilized Harvested Yield
Day (Moon) Crystal (Day) Day (Moon)
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Brass A (XG) E (A) A (XC) 5 Vomp Carrots
Brass A (XG) E (A) A (XC) 5 Vomp Carrots
Brass A (XG) E (A) A (XC) 7 Little Worms
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Earthen A (XG) E (A) A (XC) 1 Yellow Rock (O.O)
Earthen A (XG) E (A) A (XC) 9 Vomp Carrots
Earthen A (XG) E (A) A (XC) 10 Vomp Carrots
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Porcelain A (XG) E (A) A (XC) 12 Little Worms
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I'm going to do one more run with wind-heavy Earth Crystal.
Then I'm going to switch to lightning-heavy Earth Crystal and see how that differs.

[Nakti]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

A new batch of results. I got of lot of crystals this time. A little confusing; I thought I had found a good "recipe" but I guess the randomness for harvests is just that high.

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Pot Planted Fertilized Harvest Yield
Day (Moon) Crystal (Day) Day (Moon)

Brass A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 11 Little Worms
Brass A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 6 Little Worms
Brass A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 8 Vomp Carrots
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Earthen A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 4 Lightning Crystals
Earthen A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 7 Lightning Crystals
Earthen A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 5 Lightning Crystals
.
Ceramic A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 3 Lightning Crystals
Ceramic A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 7 Vomp Carrots
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Porcelain A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 12 Little Worms
Porcelain A (XC) E (A) A (LQ) 4 Lightning Crystals
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Next batch will be Lightning element heavy. Still trying for Vomp Carrots since that's a tricky crop.

[Balfree]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

It would seem youre over-watering your plants alot Nakti, thats why you get little worms... unless it means theres a change those worms would be special chocobo worms, but lucked out and got regular ones.

I check my plants 1x every 24 hours, only.

[Nakti]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

It would seem youre over-watering your plants alot Nakti, thats why you get little worms... unless it means theres a change those worms would be special chocobo worms, but lucked out and got regular ones.

The Little Worms are because the Wildgrass Seeds are Earth element and I have to use Earth Crystals on them to get Vomp Carrots. ; ; Too much Earth... I was hoping that adding a bit of Wind element (hence, planting, feeding, and harvesting on Windsday) would help. Otherwise, I don't have a problem with getting "junk" harvests when I'm going for other wildgrass recipes.

I check my plants 1x every 24 hours, only.

Me, too. ^^

[Sabaron]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

...
I check my plants 1x every 24 hours, only...

My brother and I are not convinced that checking multiple times does anything. You can check a plant while D/Cing and get a "result", and there were not significant differences noticed between batches that were over-zealously checked (e.g. 100 times per day) or those that were minimally checked (1/24 hours or 1 per 2-3 days with Gardening MH). One gardening afficionado suggested that if it does anything it reduces yield, but there was no evidence presented toward that effect.


As is everything in gardening there is no magic formula. Everything is mostly random, but sometimes there are fussy little things you have to do to get a small probability of something cool. I tend to stick to the once every 24 rule of checking. I've also been prolonging crystal cycles using Gardening MH to see if dragging out the fertilization has an effect (not with wildgrass, though).

[Nakti]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

Last batch of Vomp Carrots for a little while.

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Pot Planted Fertilized Harvested Yield
Day (Moon) Crystal (Day) Day (Moon)
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Porcelain T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 8 Vomp Carrots
Porcelain T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 1 Yellow Rock
.
Ceramic T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 4 Vomp Carrots
Ceramic T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 8 Little Worms
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Brass T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 6 Lightning Crystals
Brass T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 5 Lightning Crystals
Brass T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 7 Lightning Crystals
.
Earth T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 9 Little Worms
Earth T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 5 Vomp Carrots
Earth T (LQ) E (T) T (FM) 9 Little Worms
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I haven't completely analyzed my Vomp Carrot harvests, but it seemed that the only dreadful harvest was when I fed the Earth Crystal on Lightsday. Even when I didn't get a lot of Vomp Carrots, I got other things (Lightning Crystals and Yellow Rocks) which I could sell to help make the harvest "profitable".

I'm switching to Zegham Carrots for my next batch. (Ice Crystal) I'm hoping I get some Sharug Greens, too. I'm rather low on them. :/

[Nakti]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

And in this harvest, I got a nice set of various chocobo foods.

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Pot Planted Fertilized Harvested Yield
Day (Moon) Crystal (Day) Day (Moon)
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Porcelain I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 8 Azouph Greens
Porcelain I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 6 Zegham Carrots
.
Ceramic I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 11 Wind Crystals
Ceramic I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 7 Zegham Carrots
.
Brass I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 12 Gysahl Greens
Brass I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 9 Sharug Greens
Brass I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 8 Sharug Greens
.
Earthen I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 8 Gysahl Greens
Earthen I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 12 Azouph Greens
Earthen I (NM) I (I) I (NG) 17 Gysahl Greens
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I seem to have a lot of Gysahl Greens...maybe I'll start digging when I rent a Chocobo. ^^

[Limitlessaeon]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

Can someone tell me how I can post a table like the one you have Nakti? I have a table exactly like that in word but when I try pasting it in this reply box it comes out all ..jumbled up, real messy

[Nakti]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

Can someone tell me how I can post a table like the one you have Nakti? I have a table exactly like that in word but when I try pasting it in this reply box it comes out all ..jumbled up, real messy

I have a lot of trouble cutting-and-pasting my tables, too, so I just end up typing them directly into the message box.

I use {code} and {/code} (use [ and ] in place of { and } ) to enclose the table and set the text to Courier New so I can edit it more easily. Tabs tend to mess things up so I don't use them. When I'm done, I preview my post so I can correct any errors that show up.

[Nakti]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

Finally getting around to sorting through my little pieces of paper...

Two harvests to list.

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Pot Planted Fertilized Harvested Yield
Day (Moon) Crystal (Day) Day (Moon)
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Porcelain F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 5 Zegham Carrots
Porcelain F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 10 Gysahl Greens
.
Ceramic F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 8 Gysahl Greens
Ceramic F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 11 Gysahl Greens
.
Brass F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 11 Wind Crystals
Brass F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 20 Gysahl Greens
Brass F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 11 Gysahl Greens
.
Earthen F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 10 Gysahl Greens
Earthen F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 11 Wind Crystals
Earthen F (LQ) I (F) F (XG) 8 Azouph Greens
.
.
Porcelain L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 8 Zegham Carrots
Porcelain L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 9 Sharug Greens
.
Ceramic L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 6 Zegham Carrots
Ceramic L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 7 Zegham Carrots
.
Brass L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 9 Wind Crystals
Brass L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 8 Wind Crystals
Brass L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 11 Gysahl Greens
.
Earthen L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 8 Wind Crystals
Earthen L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 12 Wind Crystals
Earthen L (FQ) I (A) T (XC) 9 Gysahl Greens
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My husband got a super harvest of saplings from his cuttings when he harvested during the Full Moon. I'm going to try that for my next set of Wildgrass Seeds.

If I check my plants at the same time every day, in order to harvest between 90% Full Moon (waxing) and 95% Full Moon (waning) I need to plant my seeds between 67% Waning Gibbous and 52% Last Quarter (waning).

[Sabaron]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

I haven't posted on this thread in a while; I've largely been discarding my results as the various recipes are widely available on the Internet, Nakti has been doing super with carrots, and no one cares about greens since they're more common than dirt. I've been working mostly with Cupid worms. Generally speaking, over the last 40 pots (2 20-pot runs) I've gotten two pots to pop worms. One of these was a Lightsday, off-moon (Waxing Crescent) run, the other was a Lightsday, Full Moon run--each 20 pot run yielded 1 pot with Cupids in it. I'll say with about 40% certainty at this time that the general yield rate on Cupid worms is about 5% on Lightsday (or 1 yield of Cupids per 20 pots). I don't have any concrete data on the number of worms per harvest, however. Somepage says 2-3 on Brass (which I'm predominantly using) but on these two runs I've gotten 4 worms each time.

I've just harvested 11 no-crystal pots (reported to yield Gregarious Worms) with 0 yields of Gregarious worms. I lost 9 pots b/c my main character does not have Moghancement: Gardening (he has Moghancement: Experience) and replanted. I'm waiting for them to come up to finish my first 20-pot run of no-crystal plants.

For the specific data here are some lines similar to the ones I made earlier:

Pots: 20 x Brass
City: Bastok
Planted: Lightsday (Waxing Crescent)
Fertilized: Light/Lightsday
Harvest: Lightsday (??)
Yield: 1 pot Cupid Worms (4) (all others Greens/Cabbage/Crystal/etc.)

Pots: 14 x Brass, 6 x Porcelain
City: 10 San d'Oria & 10 Bastok
Planted: Lightsday (Full)
Fertilized: Light/Lightsday
Harvest: Darksday (Waning Crescent)
Yield: 1 pot Cupid Worms (4) from a Bastokan Brass Pot (all others Greens/Cabbage/Crystal/etc.)

Pots: 1 x Earthen, 3 x Porcelain, 7 x Brass
City: 10 Windurst, 1 Bastok
Planted: Darksday (Full)
Fertilized: Unfertilized
Harvest: Darksday (Waning Crescent)
Yield: 0 pots Gregarious Worms (all others Greens/Cabbage/Crystal/etc.)

[Taskmage]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

For what it's worth, I fertilized my last batch of Vomp Carrots on Earthsday and got a much better yield. Four pots yielded Vomp Carrots, three gave Lightning Crystals, one gave a yellow rock, and only two produced Little Worms. I got 32 carrots total, which is 2-3 times what I usually get.

Unfortunately, I don't have any other day or moon information for the crop. I generally plant, fertilize, and harvest whenever I'm in my mog house that day. Gardening results are so random and there are so many possible factors that I don't feel it's worth the effort to aggregate large amounts of information and plan my visits to town around the appropriate days anymore.

[Sabaron]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

Well, I just finished my 20 pot Gregarious (no-crystal) run and here are the updated results:

Pots: 1 x Earthen, 3 x Porcelain, 16 x Brass
City: 10 Windurst, 10 Bastok
Planted: 11 x Darksday (Full), 9 x Darksday (Unknown Moon)
Fertilized: Unfertilized
Harvest: Darksday (Waning Crescent)
Yield: 1 pot Gregarious Worms from Bastokan Brass (all others Greens/Cabbage/Crystal/etc.)

The yield from the single Gregarious Worm harvest was but a single worm--just one worm over 20 pots.

Future: I'm doing Parasites next and on the first new moon after this harvest, I'll be continuing Gregarious experiments.

[Sabaron]

Re: Gardening: Wild Grass Seeds

Update! Gregarious Worms afoot! Gregarious Worm (no-crystal) run #2, 20 pots.

For the specific data here are some lines similar to the ones I made earlier:

Data from previous run:

Pots: 1 x Earthen, 3 x Porcelain, 16 x Brass
City: 10 Windurst, 10 Bastok
Planted: 11 x Darksday (Full), 9 x Darksday (Unknown Moon)
Fertilized: Unfertilized
Harvest: Darksday (Waning Crescent)
Yield Rate: 1/20
Yield: 1 pot Gregarious Worms from Bastokan Brass (all others Greens/Cabbage/Crystal/etc.)
Yielding pot was Bastokan Brass and produces 1 Gregarious Worm

Pots: 1 x Earthen, 9 x Porcelain, 10 x Brass
City: 10 Windurst (Earthen, 3 x Porcelain), 10 San d'Oria (6 x Porcelain)
Planted: Darksday (Waning Crescent)
Fertilized: Unfertilized
Harvest: Lightningsday (Waning Crescent)
Yield Rate: 3/20
Yield: 3 pots Gregarious Worms (all others Greens/Cabbage/Crystal/etc.)
Yielding pot #1: San d'Orian Porcelain: 2 Gregarious worms
Yielding pot #2: San d'Orian Porcelain: 4 Gregarious worms
Yielding pot #3: Windurstian Porcelain: 4 Gregarious worms


Overall Yield Rate so far: 4/40 (10%)

It may be an interesting note that all the yielding pots on the second run were Porcelain. There is not enough data to form a solid correlation between Gregarious Worms and Porcelain pots at this time, however.